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      12-29-2020, 12:29 PM   #23
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Here is the link to the full Instagram video, originally posted by BMW M as an unlinkable story but reposted for sharing by a different account that sells BMWs in the UAE.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CJY18l7J9BA/

Worth noting also that the wheels are forged aluminum per M CEO, which while identical in weight to the M5 Comp wheels, would contribute to some weight savings against a standard M5 at least.
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Please let it be discounted F80CS proportions. This is the last good looking bmw M sedan remaining in the low 100k range and below.
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Fantastic wheels. Would love a set like this on my car...
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Worth noting also that the wheels are forged aluminum per M CEO, which undoubtably contributes to some of the weight savings.
...and to the likely unbearable price tag
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Sorry gents hoping you can explain this to me - why the negative responses?

I'm in the market and have it narrowed down to M5 Comp and E63S. I have fallen in love with my X5M and I'm really trying to educate myself on the M5's.

Is this a "new" model or just an LCI? Is it faster than the 2020 M5 Comp? The weight savings are good, but you guys are saying the power is not sufficient?
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Now I need to hunt for my grandpa treasure somewhere in his old ranch
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Yellow headlights are the actual highlight.
I miss yellow/orange angel eyes of yesteryear.

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Pointless car.

What's this going to cost? $130k? Lol who is buying this at that price point ?

This is going to sit around just like the 200+ M8's for sale. I don't get why BMW hasn't figured out no one wants to pay that kind of cash for a Bimmer.

They'd be better off making an $80/90k m3 estate/wagon
130k no chance. 150k + more likely will be the ask
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Pointless car.

What's this going to cost? $130k? Lol who is buying this at that price point ?

This is going to sit around just like the 200+ M8's for sale. I don't get why BMW hasn't figured out no one wants to pay that kind of cash for a Bimmer.

They'd be better off making an $80/90k m3 estate/wagon
Wow BMW should can their CEO for you.
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Pointless car.

What's this going to cost? $130k? Lol who is buying this at that price point ?

This is going to sit around just like the 200+ M8's for sale. I don't get why BMW hasn't figured out no one wants to pay that kind of cash for a Bimmer.

They'd be better off making an $80/90k m3 estate/wagon
Wow BMW should can their CEO for you.
Uhh ok.

It's called an opinion, guy.

Last I checked that's what people do on an automotive forum
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130k no chance. 150k + more likely will be the ask
And people will still buy it. If people are indeed willing to buy the Panamera Turbo S for 180+k, they might also consider an M5 CS for 150.
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How exactly was the weight reduced by 154 lbs ? Obviously CCB and Forged Wheels help a lot. I'm wondering how uncomfortable those seats will be. Still. It looks beautiful there's no denying that.
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Yellow headlights are the actual highlight.
I miss yellow/orange angel eyes of yesteryear.

And Naturally Aspirated Bespoke engines with insane nirvana inducing induction noises
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130k no chance. 150k + more likely will be the ask
And people will still buy it. If people are indeed willing to buy the Panamera Turbo S for 180+k, they might also consider an M5 CS for 150.
People will buy it, but like the M8, its a question of how many people will. Hopefully BMW will get the demand right, and won't have another 8er situation, or even the M4CS's that had been sitting on lots for some time. The Panamera, like the M8 also struggles. Before Covid started there were still a lot of brand new 2018 Turbo's with barely any miles that had been sitting on lots forever, even with huge discounts, they aren't easy cars to move even with the Porsche badge. People would rather spend that money on a 911 or even a Cayenne than a Panny.
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The M5CS will easily exceed $150k USD. Ridiculous price point and it was recently stated that it's track time was still slower than an M8 Competition.

Sure it will be cool, but this car is only intended for those who have the money to buy such a car and store it in a garage. No one will actually drive this car on the daily.

Given that, the next gen G90 M5 in its base form will still be faster than the M5CS and will cost less.

But I'm still glad they are developing such a car as the M5CS as it has never been done by M Division before, and I think there can never be enough M5 love in this world. I'll take all we can get. Especially before things go full electric in the not so far future.
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Pointless car.

What's this going to cost? $130k? Lol who is buying this at that price point ?

This is going to sit around just like the 200+ M8's for sale. I don't get why BMW hasn't figured out no one wants to pay that kind of cash for a Bimmer.

They'd be better off making an $80/90k m3 estate/wagon
Some of us are still lusting after M8 coupe but are financially limited now. Waiting for the price to come down. There is no other car in the current BMW line up that has the exterior beauty of the M8 coupe. White with black wheels looks so handsome. The interior not a great deal.
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People will buy it, but like the M8, its a question of how many people will. Hopefully BMW will get the demand right, and won't have another 8er situation, or even the M4CS's that had been sitting on lots for some time. The Panamera, like the M8 also struggles. Before Covid started there were still a lot of brand new 2018 Turbo's with barely any miles that had been sitting on lots forever, even with huge discounts, they aren't easy cars to move even with the Porsche badge. People would rather spend that money on a 911 or even a Cayenne than a Panny.
I assume the M5 CS production will be limited, right? 2000 vehicles or so?
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But I'm still glad they are developing such a car as the M5CS as it has never been done by M Division before, and I think there can never be enough M5 love in this world. I'll take all we can get. Especially before things go full electric in the not so far future.
Right, I don't know why people are so worked up about this thing. This thing is basically the extreme M enthusiast's dream - much like the many special versions of the E34 M5, or the new M2 CS. This is car represents what M GmbH should really be about.

And so what if it "only" 635 horses and costs? Who cares. Very few can take this car to its limits on a race track, and life is not all about straight line speeds. The weight reduction is what matters more.

FWIW, Auto Bild drove the M5 CS prototype around Lausitzring quicker than a 991.1 GT3, still half a sec slower than M8C, though.

This car got me excited more than the G80.
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And people will still buy it. If people are indeed willing to buy the Panamera Turbo S for 180+k, they might also consider an M5 CS for 150.
I fear it will fall by the wayside with the likes of the M4CS--- where BMWNA had to subsidize leases to get the cars off dealer lots. Its a crazy price point for the regular M5 buyer IMHO. Forum members are not the masses or price point determinants. The Panny Turbo (not S's) are in the 180k range and the S is even more and those cars sit like paperweights. Porsche dealers take these cars in allocation so they can get more 911's and they offset their losses with the profits there. The Panny at 135k is a great price. The AMG GT63S is another example of a polarizing car that has no business costing 180k plus.

Of course there will be a few that have to first on the block to have it but I dont see the appeal or demand to offset that price point (that all are guessing is circa 150). Case in point, the majestic M8 coupe at 160k msrps are selling like shit. Heck I bought mine for 103k with 1700 miles on it. The price delta on these cars are just off.
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well this is an awkward situation compred to the G80...
Well, depends on what you see as awkward...there will be for sure some M3 and M4 CS coming later, so they need to keep some options open to reduce the weight then..

I'm sure we will see some similar upgrades on them coming like carbon hood, standard carbon buckets, ceramics and so on...
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