[Maverik259]

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Not sure if everyone has seen the new brake technology from Porsche but it's pretty sick and on par with what I expect from them. Never something I' would expect from BMW mind you lol.

No rust, no dust, and no fade.

[TrevorM3]

no rust, no dust, no fade.. sounds like CCB.

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

no rust, no dust, no fade.. sounds like CCB.

Except they iron and not $8k

[LSM]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

no rust, no dust, no fade.. sounds like CCB.

PSCB and PCCB are different. Former are iron but surface coated the later are carbon ceramic brakes and cost much more

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by LSM

PSCB and PCCB are different. Former are iron but surface coated the later are carbon ceramic brakes and cost much more

was a joke.... sarcasm fail on my part.

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

was a joke.... sarcasm fail on my part.

Oh I know your sarcasm all to well.

Ironically enough PSCB are a $3500 add on option at build. But a $10k replacement down the road.

But PCCB are apparently a $35k replacement?! Like wtf at least for the Cayenne Turbo.

Any Porsche owners with ccbs confirm this? This sounds like Ferrari Owners dumping the cars just before 10k miles due to the $50k initial service lol. Don't remember the exact numbers but I remember something along those lines.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by Maverik259

Oh I know your sarcasm all to well.

Ironically enough PSCB are a $3500 add on option at build. But a $10k replacement down the road.

But PCCB are apparently a $35k replacement?! Like wtf at least for the Cayenne Turbo.

Any Porsche owners with ccbs confirm this? This sounds like Ferrari Owners dumping the cars just before 10k miles due to the $50k initial service lol. Don't remember the exact numbers but I remember something along those lines.

hardly any ferrari guys have their cars for over 10k anyway. And regardless, CCB will very well outlast 10k. Lifetime item, with daily driving.

[GhostOne_322]

No squeaking and honestly, can hand wash the wheels with water only and they look great. The towel barely has any dirt on them. CCB was the best investment/option on the build so far from a daily OCD perspective!

[Aronis]

I like my break dust and my saved cash.

Mike

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by GhostOne_322

No squeaking and honestly, can hand wash the wheels with water only and they look great. The towel barely has any dirt on them. CCB was the best investment/option on the build so far from a daily OCD perspective!

will never own another performance automobile w/o it.

[Salespunk]

CCB's have a LOT of markup on them. From what I remember with the Camaro's they ran the exact same CCB rotors as Ferrari on the '14-'15 Z28. Same manufacturer, same size, different bolt pattern. Ferrari was charging $35K for the upgrade while Chevrolet was charging $65K for the whole car. Replacements from GM were around $4K for all four rotors as well vs $4.5K per rotor from Ferrari.

I would like to do CCB's on my next performance car, but I don't have the patience to order and wait. If I find one on the ground then I don't mind paying for them at all.

[Maverik259]

while we're all versed in the advantages of CCBs and the cost comparison this is more a topic regarding the new carbide treated iron rotors from Porsche. CCBs have been around for decades.

[d00d]

Hopefully they didn't patent it, and it'll be available aftermarket for all cars.

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by d00d

Hopefully they didn't patent it, and it'll be available aftermarket for all cars.

ya that would be cool. But after watching the video it's not something that seems like easily copied. Required shooting carbide and O2 at the rotor at super sonic speeds! lol like wtf. but hey they're supposed to last 30% longer and actually require less brake pressure as they heat up which sounds better for track use.

but they do require special brake pads since the process makes the surface of the rotor as smooth as a mirror!

[bobblehead]

those are insane costs for replacement when time comes

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by d00d

Hopefully they didn't patent it, and it'll be available aftermarket for all cars.

Bosch is the rotor supplier and patent holder (iDisc), Brembo supplies the 10 piston caliper. Porsche has exclusive rights for a little while.

[subterFUSE]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

those are insane costs for replacement when time comes

Yup. MIght as well just turn the car in and get a new car.

[Archimedes65]

Originally Posted by Maverik259

Oh I know your sarcasm all to well.

Ironically enough PSCB are a $3500 add on option at build. But a $10k replacement down the road.

But PCCB are apparently a $35k replacement?! Like wtf at least for the Cayenne Turbo.

Any Porsche owners with ccbs confirm this?

No, that's not accurate. Couple of facts about all this.

PSCB are still a material option upcharge from iron, about half of PCCB. Low dust, but at the expense of a mirror finish rotor. They look wacky to me, couldn't live with them on my car.

OEM Porsche PCCB rotor replacements for front and rear are $22k at retail, but they can often be had for half that on the secondary market for takeoffs. Plus there are aftermarket options that are way cheaper than OEM. Finally, on a street car, the current Porsche PCCB rotors will last over 100,000 miles, so you need to consider that when comparing TCO to iron.

I've owned both iron and PCCB Porsches and I would never spec a new Porsche without PCCBs. I have a GT4 arriving in the next week with them on it.

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by Archimedes65

No, that's not accurate. Couple of facts about all this.

PSCB are still a material option upcharge from iron, about half of PCCB. Low dust, but at the expense of a mirror finish rotor. They look wacky to me, couldn't live with them on my car.

OEM Porsche PCCB rotor replacements for front and rear are $22k at retail, but they can often be had for half that on the secondary market for takeoffs. Plus there are aftermarket options that are way cheaper than OEM. Finally, on a street car, the current Porsche PCCB rotors will last over 100,000 miles, so you need to consider that when comparing TCO to iron.

I've owned both iron and PCCB Porsches and I would never spec a new Porsche without PCCBs. I have a GT4 arriving in the next week with them on it.

Well those numbers came straight from Porsche according to him and they gave him the car so regardless of what you paid I'd watch the video before stating how correct or incorrect someone is. I also was quoting the video not personal experience.

[Archimedes65]

Originally Posted by Maverik259

Well those numbers came straight from Porsche according to him and they gave him the car so regardless of what you paid I'd watch the video before stating how correct or incorrect someone is. I also was quoting the video not personal experience.

$35k would be replacing the entire system, rotors, pads, calipers, brake booster, etc., not just rotors.

You can go online and find rotors at list for around $22k (like this https://www.suncoastparts.com/catego...RAKESPCCB.html) Even the largest, most expensive OEM Porsche PCCB rotor set only comes out to about $25k for a set of four at full list. And they last forever on a street car. And very few people would replace with OEM rotors at list, when you can get takeoffs and aftermarket for a fraction of that.

Porsche PCCB replacement parts costs are largely irrelevant to the TCO, unless you damage a single rotor at some point. Then you're kinda screwed.

I looked into doing a full conversion to OEM PCCB on my 2016 Spyder and all in parts cost was going to be about $17,500 buying a takeoff set out of Germany, and that was for everything, calipers to pads.

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by Archimedes65

$35k would be replacing the entire system, rotors, pads, calipers, brake booster, etc., not just rotors.

You can go online and find rotors at list for around $22k (like this https://www.suncoastparts.com/catego...RAKESPCCB.html) Even the largest, most expensive OEM Porsche PCCB rotor set only comes out to about $25k for a set of four at full list. And they last forever on a street car. And very few people would replace with OEM rotors at list, when you can get takeoffs and aftermarket for a fraction of that.

Porsche PCCB replacement parts costs are largely irrelevant to the TCO, unless you damage a single rotor at some point. Then you're kinda screwed.

I looked into doing a full conversion to OEM PCCB on my 2016 Spyder and all in parts cost was going to be about $17,500 buying a takeoff set out of Germany, and that was for everything, calipers to pads.

Good to know if I ever own a Porsche. But Again. I really don't care. My quote was simply from the video as to what Porsche told him. Your beef is with him.

[Neptune7]

Just for kicks - if you thought $35k is expensive - what about over $100,000 for carbon wheels, $400,000 for an exterior paint option, for a Koenigsegg: