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And so you are also saying that the new side view mirror design for the M5 looking very similar to the F80 M3's side view design doesn't bother you either? Haha! This is a bit ridiculous to me. Can't they make anything bespoke anymore?! Give the side view mirrors on the M5 their own look, just as they have always had dammit!
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Not sure if this is smart marketing or not. Currently the US is in an eclipse frenzy.
Either way I'm sure they will try to leverage the eclipse into the reveal.
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If that transmission has slower shifting times than DCT then I owe you a beer, but if it's faster you are buying me one. Deal? Here is a good reference for the trans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission Keep in mind there are several different versions of it and BMW improved a lot from the last version.
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I'm not saying that the new ZF8 in the F90 M5 is going to be slow, quite the contrary. But I am simply stating that it will not be as fast as the DCT. Even in the Auto in the Vette Z06 is lightning fast, but the transmission in the CTS-V is terrible. The same can be compared to the MDCT and the PDK. The PDK in the 911GT3RS and the 918 Spyder are world class transmissions, so insanely fast and smooth, you can't even believe it. The MDCT is almost an entirely different transmission to the PDK, were they not both Dual Clutch. The ZF8 doesn't bother me that much with the new M5, I agree with M Division in that ZF8 will be able to hold the torque better, it's a lot of the other little stuff that kills it for me. Side view mirrors look too similar to F80 M3's, same exhaust note from F10 M5 because its the same engine setup, floating iDrive screen design, headlights touching the front grille, door panels not made out of carbon fiber, still no word if the hood is going to be carbon fiber and the same with the crankshaft, and generally no innovative technologies besides the new ///M xDrive system. Where's my Active Aerodynamics, where's my Electric Turbos, where's my KERS system, where's my camless engine design, where's my laser headlights, where's any kind of new innovative technology beside a trick AWD system? The F10 M5 was innovative in that they used 2 turbos inside of the V on a V8 engine, no-one practically produced that before, now Audi and Mercedes are doing the same thing. Then Mercedes beats the new F90 M5 to market with trick AWD system of their own in the new E63S which is on sale today. The F90 will be the fastest M5 ever, but only because they are just now introducing a setup which Nissan figured out 10 years ago, by combing AWD with Twin Turbo engine. At least Mercedes is trying out new stuff by developing the innovative M256 engine and going to performance based hybrid electric setups for near future AMG models, like the new upcoming CLS53 AMG. Ok that should be enough dissenting for the moment But seriously, those side view mirrors on the M5, seriously M Division??! You can't come up with any OTHER design????
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The thing that really bothers me is the stupid Navi screen sticking out like a sore thumb. Loved the way f10 had it nicely incorporated. Let me start searching for a good brewery for when you buy me a beer. You around OC anytime? What's going on with the car? text me.
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This is the ltd Edition First Edition M5 now being shown at previews more recently one in Munich.
Here it is with Frozen Royal Burgandy Red exclusive to the M5 First Edition.
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Did anyone catch the copy in lower right hand corner?
It says " BMW M5 First Edition inspired by BMW Individual." The color is a matte paint and looks similar to Mora Metallic from the 90's, but may just be a brand new M color or the launch color. Interesting. |
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I'm sure the performance will be good, but the main thing I'm noticing in these photos is a very flat side with no wheel arches to speak of, and huge headlights, which I know it shares with the G30, that just don't seem right on this car.
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They only changed because they don't have a transmission that can handle that much torque. The ZF8HP is a well known transmission at this point, and it shifts in a respectable ~200ms, which is good but a far cry from a DSG, PDK, DTC, or even the old SMG, which are all well under 100ms. It's just a trade off for power. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_time |
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