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Last week, I put my 1-day old M8 Comp GC on the jack as a guinea pig for never-before-tried suspension mods *because* the product and the installer have exceptional reputations and history--with Noelle, you have neither and yet... So why? // yup, I'm still suspicious Last edited by limeypride; 03-25-2020 at 06:51 PM.. |
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03-25-2020, 07:37 PM | #24 |
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Save yourself and your car and go with DME tuning. Leave the numbers alone. Nobody can compete with DME tuning and nobody has more knowledge and research and results than them.
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03-25-2020, 08:10 PM | #25 | |
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Can you point me toward the results you're referring to (I already looked on Dragy)? // against Noelle, though--then yeah, go with anyone else but Noelle... but your claims, while not as absurd as the Noelle fiction, are equally empty without data to back them... and I can't find any. Last edited by limeypride; 03-25-2020 at 10:20 PM.. |
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03-25-2020, 09:47 PM | #27 |
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That's Dra'g'y.
Thanks for the effort, dude! Sheesh: I looked on Dragy--very little; DME-only-ECU-tune (with no bolt-ons) lost every performance metric against my JB4-only M5C. and against my JB4-only M8C GC:
// EDIT: forgot to mention, on pump gas + 6oz of BOOSTane on full 20 gallon tank. You? Last edited by limeypride; 03-25-2020 at 10:19 PM.. |
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03-25-2020, 09:59 PM | #28 | |
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I think a mid to high 6 would be pretty impressive although to match their claims it should even be faster. 2.2 0-60 claim is absurd even if they are using a 1ft rollout I wouldn't believe it. Being that you have strict emission laws then I could see why you are willing to test the tune. We too have them but the cars are good for the first 4 or 5 years I think before the first test. Yes, Evolve has put up great numbers as has DME and JB4 for me. I would recommend any of them.
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DME: 1848 DA 0-60 2.42 -- 1/8 Mile 6.38 -- 1/4 Mile 9.89 -- 60-130 5.91
Evolve: 1418 DA 0-60 2.48 -- 1/8 Mile 6.47 -- 1/4 Mile 10.05 -- 60-130 6.48 JB4: 1096 DA 0-60 2.54 -- 1/8 Mile 6.50 -- 1/4 Mile 10.05 -- 60-130 6.18 IG: @hockeytyme All runs on street with no prep on 21 inch wheels and PS4S tires |
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"I was temporarily gullible but I've regained my senses" is a fine answer! |
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03-25-2020, 10:52 PM | #30 | |
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Yes we agree... I don't understand how they are making that type of power with just software. But just because we don't understand, does that mean it is not possible? Some dragy numbers will help prove either way. Me personally, I thought the dyno they posted was credible. I get dyno numbers can be manipulated but I didn't think that MTO Engineering had any affiliation with with Noelle but I am not positive. You guys may be right and you will have every right to tell me I told you so. Not too worried about my warranty because if I went with DME or Evolve I was looking at voiding my warranty anyways. My main reason for choosing this route is if I can make that power and not worry about upgrading downpipes it is worth a shot to not deal with emissions headaches each year. I won't be afraid to post the numbers good or bad. I will keep you posted. |
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03-26-2020, 06:33 AM | #31 | |
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The standard / consumer version of the DME Stage 1 tune is not particularly powerful. However, for the M5C Stage 2 I believe they hold two of the best times on dragy for the 60-130 (sub 6s). On straight 93 (no boostane) I've done 6.74 w/o a TCU tune on a 82 degree day in Florida (it has more in it). This is on safe boost levels targeting only 20-21psi. I believe there is DMe dragy time of 6.94 posted recently with just a tune, no bolt ons, and on pump fuel (no boostane) Pretty impressive if you ask me. Plus it's plug and play with no endless toggling to "fine tune" the Jb4, which came be a pain for those who don't feel like spending countless day's fine tuning the jb4 settings. |
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03-26-2020, 07:28 AM | #33 |
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03-26-2020, 10:54 AM | #34 | |
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Speaking of: where's the 1/4 mile data? I can't find it either on Dragy or with a quick google—this should be easy; it's the established benchmark and yet... |
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This setup is also my daily driver—not some risky unicorn configuration. I have over 30,000 miles on the setup which, I think, speaks volumes. Quote:
That's Dra'g'y. And thanks for the effort in your response, sheesh! I looked on Dragy--found very little. What I did find, DME-only-ECU-tune (with no bolt-ons) lost on the launch, the 1/8th and the 1/4 performance metrics against my JB4-only M5C. and against my JB4-only M8C GC:
// EDIT: forgot to mention, pump gas is 92 + 6oz of BOOSTane on full 20 gallon tank. Like I said, I'm expecting the ECU tune to win out in the end but where's the apples data? [/QUOTE] Last edited by limeypride; 03-26-2020 at 12:03 PM.. |
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03-26-2020, 01:54 PM | #37 |
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03-26-2020, 02:36 PM | #40 |
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Plus your on an almost 1% downward slope
Now I'm not downplaying JB4. It's a great tool! And impressive for $900 investment But DMe and evolves tunes from a 60-130, which are more consistent and less dependent on road conditions are very jmprsssive |
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Oh fuck no, not again with this Nigerian prince needs to send you a large check if you'll just cash it for him and keep a small cut...
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03-26-2020, 02:54 PM | #42 | |
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You haven't posted your 1/4 mile times or launch times. Why is that? And I couldn't find anyone with a DME tune above me on the Dragy leaderboard--your subjective claims are empty. Consider how everybody else here should interpret *your* lack of data... I think you know how they'll interpret it. Here's my data--note that the time's reflect the same map 6 setup that I've driven with on 2 x F90s for over 28,000 miles combined and an M8 for 2,000 miles: this is my daily driver setup--nothing special. My 60-130 (pre-map 6 days, too): My 1/4 mile (map 6): My launch (map 6): Last edited by limeypride; 03-26-2020 at 04:12 PM.. |
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03-26-2020, 02:57 PM | #43 | |
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We agree that DME have a great reputation--so that's something... and something I stated upfront. Anyway, post some data or don't... but the don't will speak volumes. You don't get to pick and choose which runs or assessment criteria represent a result. Last edited by limeypride; 03-26-2020 at 04:09 PM.. |
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