[Jonesie]

Originally Posted by Normalguy93

I'm very close to getting this whats your thoughts/

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/3MW49FS02P8C82503

I love the grey with red leather. Awesome combo! Love the 50th anniversary badges too.

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by Normalguy93

whats your thoughts on this?

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/3MW49FS02P8C82503

or this

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/3MW49FS01P8D60821

it's negotiable so I would shoot for under $50K, maybe $45k or less, maybe even $30's if possible since the mileage isn't that low. I know prices have gone up but I brought my car brand new for $45k in 2016.

[RoGo330i]

Just a thought: because this is your first BMW, it is really fun and exciting to do a build yourself. You can create the exact spec you want for the 340i and it will be the new ride you want for years to come.

I did this with my very first BMW, in my case a 330i, and the experience of the build, the tracking — the fun of feeling like BMW was building my car just for me —was priceless.

Having said that, this Forum is very knowledgable if you are going to choose a Certified Pre-Owned too. Best wishes whatever you decide!

[slm266]

Did you have interest in tuning the m340?

[Normalguy93]

Originally Posted by slm266

Did you have interest in tuning the m340?

Yes I wanted to do ecu tune and catless downpipe like the others

[slm266]

Originally Posted by Normalguy93

Yes I wanted to do ecu tune and catless downpipe like the others

2020 is the easiest to ecu tune as you can unlock yourself for $200-300, but manufactured after june 2020 and you’ll have to pay ~$2000 for an unlock and be without your ecu for a week.

Hopefully that changes this year as stateside tuners crack the DMD encryption…hopefully…

[Normalguy93]

Originally Posted by slm266

2020 is the easiest to ecu tune as you can unlock yourself for $200-300, but manufactured after june 2020 and you’ll have to pay ~$2000 for an unlock and be without your ecu for a week.

Hopefully that changes this year as stateside tuners crack the DMD encryption…hopefully…

I can't seem to decide whether to get a 20-30k mileage used or get a new one..

seems most used goes for 45-50k (20-30k) mileage while new one goes for 64k

so 14k difference

is this worth and new 2024?

[slm266]

Originally Posted by Normalguy93

I can't seem to decide whether to get a 20-30k mileage used or get a new one..

seems most used goes for 45-50k (20-30k) mileage while new one goes for 64k

so 14k difference

is this worth and new 2024?

I bought mine 4 months ago, $42500 for 2020 fully loaded packages with 21k miles. Put about $6k in unlock, tune, wheels, tires, springs, dinan exhaust, cosmetic and I love it.

I dont feel like I’m missing out by not having a new car for $25k extra

[Normalguy93]

Originally Posted by slm266

I bought mine 4 months ago, $42500 for 2020 fully loaded packages with 21k miles. Put about $6k in unlock, tune, wheels, tires, springs, dinan exhaust, cosmetic and I love it.

I dont feel like I’m missing out by not having a new car for $25k extra

Looks very nice

Since Im still very new to bmw packages

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/3MW49FS02P8C82503

or this

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/3MW49FS01P8D60821

which one seems more loaded? or better deal?

[zazzau]

Originally Posted by Normalguy93

I can't seem to decide whether to get a 20-30k mileage used or get a new one..

seems most used goes for 45-50k (20-30k) mileage while new one goes for 64k

so 14k difference

is this worth and new 2024?

This is a personal question. Get what makes you happy and if the money isn't a huge factor you're better off new because you will be getting exactly what you want and won't have to second guess how previous owner/s have treated the car prior to used sale. Alternatively if you can find one that is loaded, relatively low miles and preferrably CPO; but then again you'd have to spend time spotting those unicorns.

[darthry]

Originally Posted by Normalguy93

Looks very nice

Since Im still very new to bmw packages

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/3MW49FS02P8C82503

or this

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/3MW49FS01P8D60821

which one seems more loaded? or better deal?

The second link says vehicle is no longer available, so I can’t compare.

I think you need to make a personal preference decision. What exactly do you want and need?

Do you need adaptive cruise control for your commutes? If so, then you need the Driving Assistance Professional Package, which is hard to come by (both used and dealer built new)

Do you care about the stiffness of the M Sport Suspension? Would you prefer an option to have a more compliant suspension? Do you frequently have passengers that would appreciate it? Then you may need Adaptive M Suspension. Which is also not common for dealer builds, so there are less of them out there.

What about interior? Do you prefer leather? And do you want/need adjustable side bolsters? Then you need to find builds with leather seats.

Does sound quality matter? Harmon kardon surround sound in the 2023+ is better than early models with hk, and much better than base.
But you may also plan to overhaul the sound system… so you need to decide what starting system you want.

Do you want surround view camera? Then you need Parking Assistance Package.

And heated seats and heated steering wheel? Then add Premium Package (didn’t see that on your first link).

[Normalguy93]

Originally Posted by darthry

The second link says vehicle is no longer available, so I can’t compare.

I think you need to make a personal preference decision. What exactly do you want and need?

Do you need adaptive cruise control for your commutes? If so, then you need the Driving Assistance Professional Package, which is hard to come by (both used and dealer built new)

Do you care about the stiffness of the M Sport Suspension? Would you prefer an option to have a more compliant suspension? Do you frequently have passengers that would appreciate it? Then you may need Adaptive M Suspension. Which is also not common for dealer builds, so there are less of them out there.

What about interior? Do you prefer leather? And do you want/need adjustable side bolsters? Then you need to find builds with leather seats.

Does sound quality matter? Harmon kardon surround sound in the 2023+ is better than early models with hk, and much better than base.
But you may also plan to overhaul the sound system… so you need to decide what starting system you want.

Do you want surround view camera? Then you need Parking Assistance Package.

And heated seats and heated steering wheel? Then add Premium Package (didn’t see that on your first link).

I think with used it's hard to get all those packages.. so it's like I work with whats out there..

So I guess it's up to me if those packages are worth 14k more.. hmm

As bmw driver yourself is it day and night ?

[darthry]

Originally Posted by Normalguy93

I think with used it's hard to get all those packages.. so it's like I work with whats out there..

So I guess it's up to me if those packages are worth 14k more.. hmm

As bmw driver yourself is it day and night ?

I understand that. My intent was to list out the options and their benefits.

Someone else will have to chime in, my car is in production.
I test drove a few that were available in my area. Adaptive suspension and surround view camera are must haves for me. They make the world of difference and I personally could not compromise. Once I noticed I couldn’t find those options used or sitting on a lot, I decided to order a custom build and load it with everything I wanted.

Whatever you decide, do not pay MSRP in this market. You can negotiate a decent discount before incentives.
For used, the market is in a strange place… but you may have some room to negotiate.

[Plimmie]

I bought a new one of the dealer lot… but it was exactly as I wanted it. I had to drive hundred's of miles to get it though. Even got the price well below MSRP.
I personally did not feel comfortable buying used, as I know how I drive my cars (hard). I don’t think there are many M340’s out there that have been babied. The car is just too inviting :-) and I am worried I inherit someone else’s problems.

[TheJungatron]

Normalguy93 Some wisdom as a seasoned BMW enthusiast (4+ owned) . Don’t just buy to buy. If you settle with your purchase, you will regret it. We see people constantly buying something just to realize they wanted something else. We then see that same person sell the first car and buy something else or spending a fortune on mods that won’t make then happy. Just make sure to do your homework (watch YouTube, read posts, browse Instagram and more to find the vehicle that fits your liking)

[Normalguy93]

Originally Posted by darthry

I understand that. My intent was to list out the options and their benefits.

Someone else will have to chime in, my car is in production.
I test drove a few that were available in my area. Adaptive suspension and surround view camera are must haves for me. They make the world of difference and I personally could not compromise. Once I noticed I couldn’t find those options used or sitting on a lot, I decided to order a custom build and load it with everything I wanted.

Whatever you decide, do not pay MSRP in this market. You can negotiate a decent discount before incentives.
For used, the market is in a strange place… but you may have some room to negotiate.

How do u order? Can u still negotiate on a custom order?

[alFR]

Ask yourself a couple of questions:

• What options do I want?
• How much do I want to pay?
• Will it be on finance or outright purchase? Don't know about in the USA but UK used car finance rates are terrible at the moment.
• Do I need the car now (in which case it'll need to be used) or can I wait for a new car order?
• Is there a used car available with the options I want? If so, does the price / finance deal fit my criteria? If yes, buy it. If not, either keep looking or order new.

Only you can answer those questions, so do some research if you don't already know the answers.

[RoGo330i]

[QUOTE=Normalguy93;31118820]How do u order? Can u still negotiate on a custom order?

These orders aren’t really considered “custom” per se. Folks do this all the time, and you absolutely still negotiate. If you want an “Individual” color, that would be the one spec that adds significant time and (about $5,000) extra cost. You can do the order at the dealership with one of the reps. It’s helpful to configure your build on-line ahead of time to prepare for exactly what you want. Make sure they have an actual allocation for you.

There are super knowledgable veterans on the Forum who can tell you more! For example, you might want to ask for So Cal recommendations of who to work with in your area.

[Normalguy93]

I did find the used bmw I like with the packages but it's mot cpo even though it's bmw dealer with low mileage and some wear and tear in interior....

At this point is it with 15k more for new

[Eric_M328i]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

If you really want a G20 then go for a 2020 M340i. It’s all sh!t after that. You might want to check out 2018 F30 340i rwd M Sports. Those will get you a less modern, but more classic BMW 3er.

IMO absolutely nothing wrong with the later M340s except for deleted options( BMW being cheap) and exhaust burbles if you care about that. All years are great cars.

The F30 is the most numb feeling 3 series of the whole lineup.
E90 to f30 got numbed down like crazy. G20 fixed it a little obviously not as engaging as E9X generation but much better. Maybe others have different experience but this was mine when I drove the F30 multiple times.

[Eric_M328i]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

You have your opinion. I have mine. I owned a 2006 E90 330i rwd sport suspension for 11 1/2 years. Before that a 2004 E46 330i ZHP. I’m on my second LCI F30 340i rwd M Sport with the 704 sport suspension and I’m just coming up on my third year in this model of 3er. I’ve driven many G20 M340i’s with the adaptive suspension and I owned a 2020 M340i xDrive with the 704 sport suspension for four months and decided that I prefer the more traditional and old school BMW and chose to go back to the LCI F30 and I haven’t regretted it for a second. The one thing I’ll absolutely give the M340i is the B58B30O1TU and the ZF8 transmission are absolutely PERFECTLY tuned together. My F30 B58B30M0 and ZF8 are just slightly less as good together.

Ya for sure the different opinions are what make the community.
Wasnt saying its a bad car whatsoever but Just sharing my experience from my little time driving some friends cars.
I do Agree though the B58 and ZF8 are a perfect pairing in both generation cars.