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      10-04-2021, 04:41 PM   #1
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Winter tire recommendation...

Hello,
I searched here and just wanted to get a confirmation from this group.
I purchased 706m 20" wheels to use for winter. At the same time was looking at the winter tire options. For winter, narrower the tire, the better… not interested in RTFs... at the same time, I wanted to go with square setup with 9.5/10.5" wheels. OE tires looks somewhat stretched on the rear wheel so going with 275 tire on rear wheel will look off... below are 285mm square setup tire options... Pirelli’s looks like a proven choice based on F90 forum and Tirerack reviews… Pilots seem to be overpriced while 285s are on backorder @ $470 a tire … anyone has experience with Vredestein (275s only size available) as Tirerack has limited number of reviews?
Thank you for the feedback on any of my points and questions.
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      10-07-2021, 11:35 PM   #2
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I have the Pilot Alpin for the third winter now.
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I used the Vredestein WinterTrac Pros on my 2020 X3MC for a winter and was very happy with the performance in fresh and packed snow. We don't generally get a lot of snow in rural central Missouri and I didn't have any traction problems during winter conditions. The downside for me was the noticeable increase in road noise on dry pavement and a somewhat "squishy" quality that was noticeable primarily during hard braking. Always glad to put the Michelins back on for warmer weather driving. All that said, I've purchased a set of 275/35/20 tires to mount on the 706M OE wheels for winter duty.
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      10-15-2021, 04:40 PM   #4
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Has anyone recently ordered the Pirelli Sottozero 3s and gotten a recent (2020) production year from anywhere?

I ordered a set of 285/35/20s from Tirerack but when I received them they were 2018s.. was not a fan of paying full retail for 3 year old new tires so I returned them. I called them to see if they had more recent ones but the guy on the phone told me everything they had locally in the northeast were 2018s in that spec..
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      10-15-2021, 07:37 PM   #5
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Has anyone recently ordered the Pirelli Sottozero 3s and gotten a recent (2020) production year from anywhere?

I ordered a set of 285/35/20s from Tirerack but when I received them they were 2018s.. was not a fan of paying full retail for 3 year old new tires so I returned them. I called them to see if they had more recent ones but the guy on the phone told me everything they had locally in the northeast were 2018s in that spec..
I was planning to order Sotto3 285 square setup but they went up from $321 to $372 overnight… so I pulled the plug on Vredesteins 275 square at $263 each
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      10-17-2021, 09:00 PM   #6
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Has anyone recently ordered the Pirelli Sottozero 3s and gotten a recent (2020) production year from anywhere?

I ordered a set of 285/35/20s from Tirerack but when I received them they were 2018s.. was not a fan of paying full retail for 3 year old new tires so I returned them. I called them to see if they had more recent ones but the guy on the phone told me everything they had locally in the northeast were 2018s in that spec..
Unless you weren't going to use them up in the next 2-3 years, they would have been fine. But if you don't need them now, you can wait I guess.

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      10-18-2021, 12:28 AM   #7
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Unless you weren't going to use them up in the next 2-3 years, they would have been fine. But if you don't need them now, you can wait I guess.

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I would gladly run tires a few years old but I think they should be marked down. These tires are extremely pricey and I also would expect to new stock not new "old" stock.
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I would gladly run tires a few years old but I think they should be marked down. These tires are extremely pricey and I also would expect to new stock not new "old" stock.
I gotcha. Good luck finding newer ones.

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I gotcha. Good luck finding newer ones.

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Well I'm looking at replacing my Pilot 4s with the same tire. Are those not available in new stock? I know we were specifically talking about Pirellis...
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Has anyone recently ordered the Pirelli Sottozero 3s and gotten a recent (2020) production year from anywhere?

I ordered a set of 285/35/20s from Tirerack but when I received them they were 2018s.. was not a fan of paying full retail for 3 year old new tires so I returned them. I called them to see if they had more recent ones but the guy on the phone told me everything they had locally in the northeast were 2018s in that spec..
I was planning to order Sotto3 285 square setup but they went up from $321 to $372 overnight… so I pulled the plug on Vredesteins 275 square at $263 each
I also went with the vredesteins's, decent price and seemingly good reviews! Let's see how it goes
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      10-19-2021, 05:38 PM   #11
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Thanks I didn't even consider anything besides the Sottozero or PA4 so far. The Vredesteins seem to be good based on reviews, will order a set 275 squared as well. Am also lowered on Dinan HAS with spacers so will see how it all goes.
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Thanks I didn't even consider anything besides the Sottozero or PA4 so far. The Vredesteins seem to be good based on reviews, will order a set 275 squared as well. Am also lowered on Dinan HAS with spacers so will see how it all goes.
Getting mine mounted tomorrow… only concern with rear tire being too stretched in 10.5" wheel… will post tomorrow
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Well I'm looking at replacing my Pilot 4s with the same tire. Are those not available in new stock? I know we were specifically talking about Pirellis...
I would think the Pilots will be fine, but the Sottozero's are somewhat low production. I would think with current supply chain issues, you might be in for a challenge for new ones.

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Ready for winter… 275 Vredestein square setup on OEM 706 staggered wheels… even rear wheel has enough lip protection…
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Ready for winter… 275 Vredestein square setup on OEM 706 staggered wheels… even rear wheel has enough lip protection…
I'm yet to have mine installed so let us all know how you find them
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Ready for winter… 275 Vredestein square setup on OEM 706 staggered wheels… even rear wheel has enough lip protection…
What sizes?

Thanks
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Ready for winter… 275 Vredestein square setup on OEM 706 staggered wheels… even rear wheel has enough lip protection…
What sizes?

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275/35/20
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I'm ordering the PA5* tire and wheel assembly. It's expensive, sure, but very worth it I think. Part number 36110003049 for the squares.
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I ordered Michelin's pilot alpin4 285/35r20 all around from Costco, should get them by the end of the week.
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Thoughts on square 275/35 20 on Pilot A/S 3+?
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Hi- I know this has probably been answered already but I just want to be sure because i am ordering winter tires for my 22 M5 C that should hope arriving in December.



Pilot Sport All Season 4 - Michelin
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Item # 1549790

Tire Size: 275/35ZR20/XL
Season: All-Season
Load Index: 102
Warranty: 45k miles
Run Flat: No
Speed Rating: Y
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Item # 1549943

Tire Size: 285/35ZR20/XL
Season: All-Season
Load Index: 104
Warranty: 45k miles
Run Flat: No


Is this the appropriate stagger set up work for my 22 M5C?
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      11-08-2021, 05:49 PM   #22
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You can also get the new Pirelli P Zero Winter tires in the stock 20" sizes (275/285) at a BMW dealer. They are a bit pricey, but there is a $100 rebate currently offered.
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