BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW M5 F90 (2018+) General Forums F90 M5 General Forum    2021 F90 M5 Comp or 2021 W213 E63S?

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-25-2020, 01:14 PM   #1
secretariat
Major
610
Rep
1,236
Posts

Drives: 2016 X5M
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

2021 F90 M5 Comp or 2021 W213 E63S?

BIMMERPOST
     Featured on BIMMERPOST.com
OK I am going to replace the X5M with one of these. I need advice from those who have knowledge of both. The F90 I am familiar with as far as I-drive, the driving feel or lack of, DD capability, all around monster engine and the reliability. I have had BMW'S for the last 30 years. I have never owned a Mercedes therefore I am unfamiliar with the reliability, MBUX system (which seems complicated, I'll learn I guess), what is Mercedes service like? Are the discounts similar when purchasing these vehicles? I have read that both are excellent choices, but will the mercedes give that 1995 soulful feeling I know the BMW won't. As far as exhaust I know the Mercedes is better, louder but that can be remedied with an after market exhaust as long as I don't lose my service warranty. Any replies will be helpful. Also yes I know this is the F90 forum.
Appreciate 0
      08-25-2020, 03:07 PM   #2
bobblehead
Brigadier General
bobblehead's Avatar
Canada
242
Rep
4,720
Posts

Drives: warp speed
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto, On

iTrader: (0)

as you know, MB has a facelift for the E63S. Namely: changes are
- mbux infotainment
- new steering wheels
- new grille
- new headlights and tail lights
- softer suspension
- a few more new paint color choices

Some people hate the new grille and headlights but that's an individual preference, of course. No changes to power at all.

I currently owned a 2018 E63S wagon. No big problems to speak of. Overall, I enjoyed the vehicle for the day-to-day drive. So, if you are looking to change brand altogether, then you have certainly chose the next best competitor to the M5.

The production for the E63S is supposed to begin in November and therefore, delivery would happen probably by early to mid January 2021.
Appreciate 1
stein_325i17286.00
      08-25-2020, 03:19 PM   #3
Greer
Lieutenant Colonel
Greer's Avatar
1002
Rep
1,786
Posts

Drives: 2022 M5 Competition
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

Why don't you get the 2021 M5 CS. It will blow the E63 away. No comparison.
__________________
2022 F90 M5 Competition & 2019 M2 Competition
2019 F90 M5 Competition
2017 F80 M3 Competition
2014 F10 M5 Competition
2003 E39 M5
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2020, 12:07 AM   #4
LOW4LYF
Brigadier General
LOW4LYF's Avatar
1947
Rep
3,822
Posts

Drives: ///M4 COMPETITION
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: @Home

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greer View Post
Why don't you get the 2021 M5 CS. It will blow the E63 away. No comparison.
How do you know already???
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2020, 08:12 AM   #5
secretariat
Major
610
Rep
1,236
Posts

Drives: 2016 X5M
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

Thanks for the responses, I actually like the way the facelift looks on the E63s especially in grey. I know that Mercedes doesn't give a service warranty and I am wondering if I should purchase the service option for 4 years. That's basically an oil change every 10,000 miles or once a year?? I am not looking to blow the doors off an E63 with the M5CS, if it actually does that. Both are very similar, I guess I'm just really wondering which one of the two has more driver involvement. Which one gives you more steering feel, which one will I feel like I'm driving the car and not the other way around. If blowing the doors off other vehicles was my goal I would get a an electric vehicle (noooooo)
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2020, 10:18 AM   #6
stein_325i
Ring Leader of G8X Haters
stein_325i's Avatar
United_States
17286
Rep
7,338
Posts

Drives: BMW/Benz
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by secretariat View Post
Thanks for the responses, I actually like the way the facelift looks on the E63s especially in grey. I know that Mercedes doesn't give a service warranty and I am wondering if I should purchase the service option for 4 years. That's basically an oil change every 10,000 miles or once a year?? I am not looking to blow the doors off an E63 with the M5CS, if it actually does that. Both are very similar, I guess I'm just really wondering which one of the two has more driver involvement. Which one gives you more steering feel, which one will I feel like I'm driving the car and not the other way around. If blowing the doors off other vehicles was my goal I would get a an electric vehicle (noooooo)
So far my MB experience has been very good. I've had BMW's for over two decades and have recently just gone to the dark side (although I still do have two Bimmers and am a passionate of both manufacturers, so no bias one way or the other). I got a CLS at the end of 2018 after being disappointed with my 540i, and was shocked that MB can actually make fun to drive cars while BMW was sleeping at the wheel, and the wife just got a GLC as a daily for her and the dog. I am looking at getting into an AMG C63 or E63 after my CLS next year and have driven some of the competition. I also loved the S-Coupe, but I do want something smaller, louder (V8) and more fun while still being daily-able, not quite old enough for an S-Class just yet Currently leaning towards E, but the C-Coupe is just so pretty.

As for discounts, I can't speak for AMG's just know that they will likely be lower as they sell less and supply less AMG's than M's and are less incentivized too (especially for leasing). If you get a wagon only discounts would be for leftover models as new wagons are order-only and they are rare so dealers don't haggle on them, although the wagon benefits from higher resale value (and depending on the future of the E-Wagon, could further improve). For service, you would have to get a service bundle, if you want it "packaged with the car." Depending on the deal I would recommend it as MB dealer service is costly (as most luxury dealers are). As for AMG reliability, I can't speak for that, the only known issue I know of was early 2018 models had misfire issues and were bought back by MB, but my wife's GLC has been great, and other than a faulty window switch and a damaged parking sensor my CLS has had no issues in 20k+ miles. As always, YMMV.

I have driven an M5 (non-comp) on the road and track, and a Comp model (not on track though) and will agree with you that the car is lacking in feedback and engagement in certain areas. The car is incredibly capable though, and can achieve some great times on and off track, just lacks a bit of passion/soul of past Bimmers. The biggest advantage the M5 has over the E63S other than speed/0-60 times (which is a very minuscule difference anyways) is ride comfort, and supposedly the new 2021 E refresh will ride much better after owner complaints, so that should level the playing field. Apparently for 2021 M5 will be receiving M8's brakes which are by wire, I haven't tested this, but do wonder if this removes more feel from the car?

I have yet to drive an E63S on track, but I have driven a friends E63 Wagon extensively and find the steering and handling to be much sharper. While the steering isn't brimming with feel, it is more natural and progressive (though lighter) than most of BMW's modern racks which associate sportiness with heavy steering. The E is heavier (mostly due to pano roof, which I think is worth it) but doesn't feel it, and still is pretty agile for its size. I also liked that the E has an MCT over a traditional auto which feels crisp and the paddles are nice tactile aluminum. While MB doesn't classify it as a "Dual Clutch" it is a multi-clutch system, so in and around town at low speed it won't be as smooth as the ZF. While the E is slower (by a small amount, 3-seconds to 60 is still plenty fast) it feels more aggressive due to the engine + trans setup while the M5 is smoother and more composed (less dramatic). The engine and exhaust are the E's biggest advantage over the M5, they just nail the exhaust on their V8's, even stock it sounds awesome, especially on cold starts.

Interior wise, design will be subjective, but build quality is better on the 5er. After having both the 540 and the CLS (which shares the E's interior) I prefer the look of the CLS, especially at night, just feels really special especially the lighting, but interior is all personal taste so YMMV. As for tech, MBUX is fairly simple if you are use to iDrive, not too hard, you get use to it, and most of the time wife and I use Apple Carplay anyways. iDrive is better, but MBUX is still plenty fine, not enough to sway a purchase, in my opinion. Also the gauges in the MB are much more customizable and do have a proper tach. Hopefully BMW will give us more options eventually after all these complaints!

I highly recommend you take a good test drive of both and push them hard and rev them out to truly experience both cars and be able to compre them (may require test driving a used car). Also check out the W213 AMG forums on MBWorld to get some opinions and help from owners over there.

Whatever you end up with, they are both excellent vehicles. Good luck
__________________
Daily: 2019 Mercedes-Benz CLS 53 Weekend: 2008 BMW Z4 M Wife's: 2021 Mercedes-Benz GLE 450
Retired: '95 E36 325i 5MT / '04 E46 330i 6MT / '11 E90 335xi / '17 G30 540i / '19 F87 M2C 6MT / '20 MB GLC 300
Appreciate 2
spuntyb2768.00
      08-26-2020, 11:06 AM   #7
norbtx
Lieutenant
norbtx's Avatar
232
Rep
492
Posts

Drives: 2019 BMW M5
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Houston Texas USA

iTrader: (0)

The current design language for Mercedes is god awful. Interiors are terrible, grills are terrible. If these didn't have the tristar on front, people would be laughing at them.
__________________
2019 M5 - Marina Bay Blue/Silverstone
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2020, 11:39 AM   #8
stein_325i
Ring Leader of G8X Haters
stein_325i's Avatar
United_States
17286
Rep
7,338
Posts

Drives: BMW/Benz
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by norbtx View Post
The current design language for Mercedes is god awful. Interiors are terrible, grills are terrible. If these didn't have the tristar on front, people would be laughing at them.
BMW ain't so hot either... just sayin.
Attached Images
  
__________________
Daily: 2019 Mercedes-Benz CLS 53 Weekend: 2008 BMW Z4 M Wife's: 2021 Mercedes-Benz GLE 450
Retired: '95 E36 325i 5MT / '04 E46 330i 6MT / '11 E90 335xi / '17 G30 540i / '19 F87 M2C 6MT / '20 MB GLC 300
Appreciate 3
HardBob116.50
      08-26-2020, 12:32 PM   #9
secretariat
Major
610
Rep
1,236
Posts

Drives: 2016 X5M
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

JStein55, exactly what I was looking for very informative. As far as the MCT goes I had the F80 M3 with DCT so I should be OK with it. I will drive both and push them to get a better feel for them. I drove my friends GLE63s (I think that's what it's called--mercedes comp. for the X6M) and liked it. It was more brutal than the X5M. Anyway I'll follow your advice and will let everyone know what I decided. Thank you kindly.
Appreciate 1
stein_325i17286.00
      08-26-2020, 01:37 PM   #10
BwoodBMW
Colonel
BwoodBMW's Avatar
1785
Rep
2,519
Posts

Drives: EFFEIGHTY
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: LA LA land

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jstein55 View Post
BMW ain't so hot either... just sayin.
LOL... every time I see these pics I try and convince myself that people have photoshopped them to look this bad. But alas...

7 series actually does look a lot better in the flesh. M5 and the X7 for the fam are sadly the only BMWs that I get excited about now. Don't love benz styling either. Its like the two brands are trying to force me in to digging deeper in my wallet to buy a porsche

Facelifted panamera released today. Looks pretty sharp.
Appreciate 1
stein_325i17286.00
      08-26-2020, 01:40 PM   #11
stein_325i
Ring Leader of G8X Haters
stein_325i's Avatar
United_States
17286
Rep
7,338
Posts

Drives: BMW/Benz
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by BwoodBMW View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstein55 View Post
BMW ain't so hot either... just sayin.
LOL... every time I see these pics I try and convince myself that people have photoshopped them to look this bad. But alas...

7 series actually does look a lot better in the flesh. M5 and the X7 for the fam are sadly the only BMWs that I get excited about now. Don't love benz styling either. Its like the two brands are trying to force me in to digging deeper in my wallet to buy a porsche

Facelifted panamera released today. Looks pretty sharp.
The panny wagon is just gorgeous. My dealer had one in Mamba Green in the showroom and it really just is absolutely beautiful. Can actually score a pretty good deal on one too because all they do is sit on the lot.
__________________
Daily: 2019 Mercedes-Benz CLS 53 Weekend: 2008 BMW Z4 M Wife's: 2021 Mercedes-Benz GLE 450
Retired: '95 E36 325i 5MT / '04 E46 330i 6MT / '11 E90 335xi / '17 G30 540i / '19 F87 M2C 6MT / '20 MB GLC 300
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2020, 01:43 PM   #12
foldpages
Private First Class
63
Rep
193
Posts

Drives: 2020
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2020 AMG E63 S  [0.00]
2020 Jeep Wrangler  [0.00]
2017 X6 M  [0.00]
I went from F86 X6 M to a 2020 E63 S (pre-facelift) and I have been very happy so far.

My service experience with Mercedes has been on a whole new level compared to BMW, but that's very dealer specific. Unfortunately, the dealers in South Florida are a mixed bag. As you stated, BMW includes the service, with Mercedes you pay per service or you can elect to prepay for your maintenance which results in a lower price.

As far as discounts go, I think it's harder to get discounts on an AMG. Leasing rates for AMG's are generally also worse than M. I have no experience with MBUX, but I can tell you the infotainment in the pre-facelift is not great. The screens look amazing, but the system is very slow to respond. But that should all be resolved with MBUX.

I think you will be happy with either choice, both are amazing cars.

Last edited by foldpages; 08-26-2020 at 01:48 PM..
Appreciate 1
stein_325i17286.00
      08-26-2020, 01:59 PM   #13
Stealth7
First Lieutenant
144
Rep
386
Posts

Drives: 2020 M5C Blk/Blk
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

I checked both cars before getting my 2020 BMW M% Competition.

The fatal flaw in the E63 S before 2021 refresh was the suspension. Even in comfort mode the car had a bone jarring ride. Supposedly this has been fixed for 2021. The Mercedes Performance Seats or Sport Seats are also not comfortable at all and the other seats look like couches. Personally I like the aggressive looks and sounds of the Mercedes, but would not trade my M5C for the Mercedes or the Porsche Panamera for that matter. The M5C also has slightly better performance than the Mercedes to the extent that matters. Both are awesome cars! We need to enjoy them why we can.

To make my car "less boring" I added some of the BMW performance carbon fiber parts.

Good luck in your decision!
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2020, 02:15 PM   #14
Archimedes65
Second Lieutenant
Archimedes65's Avatar
United_States
118
Rep
213
Posts

Drives: BMW M5
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Monterey

iTrader: (0)

Drive them both. You'll know in 10 minutes which one you prefer. Comes down to personal preference/style, nobody can answer the question for you. The cars are too close.
Appreciate 3
stein_325i17286.00
GranitM5336.00
euro*1336.00
      08-27-2020, 08:31 AM   #15
dappercivility
First Lieutenant
dappercivility's Avatar
177
Rep
368
Posts

Drives: F90 M5 Competition
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Singapore

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by secretariat View Post
OK I am going to replace the X5M with one of these. I need advice from those who have knowledge of both. The F90 I am familiar with as far as I-drive, the driving feel or lack of, DD capability, all around monster engine and the reliability. I have had BMW'S for the last 30 years. I have never owned a Mercedes therefore I am unfamiliar with the reliability, MBUX system (which seems complicated, I'll learn I guess), what is Mercedes service like? Are the discounts similar when purchasing these vehicles? I have read that both are excellent choices, but will the mercedes give that 1995 soulful feeling I know the BMW won't. As far as exhaust I know the Mercedes is better, louder but that can be remedied with an after market exhaust as long as I don't lose my service warranty. Any replies will be helpful. Also yes I know this is the F90 forum.
Why not the GT63 AMG?
__________________
Born in M Town
Appreciate 0
      08-27-2020, 09:53 AM   #16
stein_325i
Ring Leader of G8X Haters
stein_325i's Avatar
United_States
17286
Rep
7,338
Posts

Drives: BMW/Benz
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by dappercivility View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by secretariat View Post
OK I am going to replace the X5M with one of these. I need advice from those who have knowledge of both. The F90 I am familiar with as far as I-drive, the driving feel or lack of, DD capability, all around monster engine and the reliability. I have had BMW'S for the last 30 years. I have never owned a Mercedes therefore I am unfamiliar with the reliability, MBUX system (which seems complicated, I'll learn I guess), what is Mercedes service like? Are the discounts similar when purchasing these vehicles? I have read that both are excellent choices, but will the mercedes give that 1995 soulful feeling I know the BMW won't. As far as exhaust I know the Mercedes is better, louder but that can be remedied with an after market exhaust as long as I don't lose my service warranty. Any replies will be helpful. Also yes I know this is the F90 forum.
Why not the GT63 AMG?
GT63S is awesome, but incredibly overpriced...
__________________
Daily: 2019 Mercedes-Benz CLS 53 Weekend: 2008 BMW Z4 M Wife's: 2021 Mercedes-Benz GLE 450
Retired: '95 E36 325i 5MT / '04 E46 330i 6MT / '11 E90 335xi / '17 G30 540i / '19 F87 M2C 6MT / '20 MB GLC 300
Appreciate 0
      08-27-2020, 10:44 AM   #17
Vic55
Major General
Vic55's Avatar
6726
Rep
7,135
Posts

Drives: 2020 M8 Gran Coupe Competition
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: THE Orange County

iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jstein55 View Post
GT63S is awesome, but incredibly overpriced...
For some odd reason, probably due to the polarization of the car, I keep going back to it (GT63S) due its unique looks and performance even with its excessive heft. They really are so poorly marketed and supported from a factory level leaving the dealer stuck with these paper weights. With that being said I would entertain one even if its a few ticks slower than an F90. I have seen quite a few on the road and the presence is strong. But as you mentioned and Ive reviewed, the price point of a properly spec'd car is circa 180-185k at msrp.

True msrp to holdback is only 12% and there is not one penny of factory to dealer or to customer cash which is sad. Ive got my friend who owns two stores pushing a car at an incredible price but even he said "I will be fucked" if I get it at his pricing LOL which is close to 40k off.
__________________
2022 BMW M3 Competition XDrive Aventurine Red
2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray
2020 BMW M8 Gran Coupe Competition Black Sapphire Metallic
2018 Porsche GTS Cabriolet Carmine Red
2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black
Appreciate 4
onfireX53045.50
stein_325i17286.00
LSM893.00
Egrunt323.50
      08-27-2020, 11:53 AM   #18
stein_325i
Ring Leader of G8X Haters
stein_325i's Avatar
United_States
17286
Rep
7,338
Posts

Drives: BMW/Benz
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic55 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstein55 View Post
GT63S is awesome, but incredibly overpriced...
For some odd reason, probably due to the polarization of the car, I keep going back to it (GT63S) due its unique looks and performance even with its excessive heft. They really are so poorly marketed and supported from a factory level leaving the dealer stuck with these paper weights. With that being said I would entertain one even if its a few ticks slower than an F90. I have seen quite a few on the road and the presence is strong. But as you mentioned and Ive reviewed, the price point of a properly spec'd car is circa 180-185k at msrp.

True msrp to holdback is only 12% and there is not one penny of factory to dealer or to customer cash which is sad. Ive got my friend who owns two stores pushing a car at an incredible price but even he said "I will be fucked" if I get it at his pricing LOL which is close to 40k off.
The presence is definitely strong. Despite poor sales, I have surprisingly seen them more than the CLS' like mine (another poor seller). After seeing a red one on MBWorld (shown below) my opinion of the design changed to be more positive, and in person most are 53's but a few are 63's and they are quite beautiful and they stand out, especially in brighter colors like red, white or blue.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Daily: 2019 Mercedes-Benz CLS 53 Weekend: 2008 BMW Z4 M Wife's: 2021 Mercedes-Benz GLE 450
Retired: '95 E36 325i 5MT / '04 E46 330i 6MT / '11 E90 335xi / '17 G30 540i / '19 F87 M2C 6MT / '20 MB GLC 300
Appreciate 2
Vic556726.00
LSM893.00
      08-27-2020, 12:02 PM   #19
Vic55
Major General
Vic55's Avatar
6726
Rep
7,135
Posts

Drives: 2020 M8 Gran Coupe Competition
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: THE Orange County

iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jstein55 View Post
The presence is definitely strong. Despite poor sales, I have surprisingly seen them more than the CLS' like mine (another poor seller). After seeing a red one on MBWorld (shown below) my opinion of the design changed to be more positive, and in person most are 53's but a few are 63's and they are quite beautiful and they stand out, especially in brighter colors like red, white or blue.
Yeah thats Jesse's old Non S-- spacers and a drop change the game IMHO.
__________________
2022 BMW M3 Competition XDrive Aventurine Red
2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray
2020 BMW M8 Gran Coupe Competition Black Sapphire Metallic
2018 Porsche GTS Cabriolet Carmine Red
2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black
Appreciate 1
stein_325i17286.00
      08-27-2020, 09:27 PM   #20
dappercivility
First Lieutenant
dappercivility's Avatar
177
Rep
368
Posts

Drives: F90 M5 Competition
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Singapore

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jstein55 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by dappercivility View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by secretariat View Post
OK I am going to replace the X5M with one of these. I need advice from those who have knowledge of both. The F90 I am familiar with as far as I-drive, the driving feel or lack of, DD capability, all around monster engine and the reliability. I have had BMW'S for the last 30 years. I have never owned a Mercedes therefore I am unfamiliar with the reliability, MBUX system (which seems complicated, I'll learn I guess), what is Mercedes service like? Are the discounts similar when purchasing these vehicles? I have read that both are excellent choices, but will the mercedes give that 1995 soulful feeling I know the BMW won't. As far as exhaust I know the Mercedes is better, louder but that can be remedied with an after market exhaust as long as I don't lose my service warranty. Any replies will be helpful. Also yes I know this is the F90 forum.
Why not the GT63 AMG?
GT63S is awesome, but incredibly overpriced...
Yeah but it's really unique and nice
__________________
Born in M Town
Appreciate 0
      08-27-2020, 10:13 PM   #21
KoenG
Major
Belgium
820
Rep
1,258
Posts

Drives: E39 530i & G01 X3 2.0d XDrive
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Europe

iTrader: (0)

Based on multiple testimonials and test reviews, I'd assume the M5c to be the best technical capable vehicle that builds more speed under most circumstances, but the E63s will most probably be more dramatic to drive.

My experience with the M5c was that it felt a bit underwhelming at first, until I looked at the speedo! Then I felt humble and realised this car is incredible awesome. Never have driven a E63s but I imagine it's not far off. And what matters then are not the differences in laptimes, but the differences in feel.

Currently, the only MB which could make me switch is probably the E53, since it's a better proposal than both the 540i and M550i. In the top segment, I would probably still bow for the mighty M5c.
Appreciate 0
      08-27-2020, 10:40 PM   #22
LSM
Lieutenant Colonel
LSM's Avatar
United_States
893
Rep
1,679
Posts

Drives: 2020 Porsche 911 Carrera S
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dappercivility View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by secretariat View Post
OK I am going to replace the X5M with one of these. I need advice from those who have knowledge of both. The F90 I am familiar with as far as I-drive, the driving feel or lack of, DD capability, all around monster engine and the reliability. I have had BMW'S for the last 30 years. I have never owned a Mercedes therefore I am unfamiliar with the reliability, MBUX system (which seems complicated, I'll learn I guess), what is Mercedes service like? Are the discounts similar when purchasing these vehicles? I have read that both are excellent choices, but will the mercedes give that 1995 soulful feeling I know the BMW won't. As far as exhaust I know the Mercedes is better, louder but that can be remedied with an after market exhaust as long as I don't lose my service warranty. Any replies will be helpful. Also yes I know this is the F90 forum.
Why not the GT63 AMG?
I love the AMG GT 63 S sedan... I echo what others have said the presence and feel of something special is off the charts... expensive yea that's the issue with AMG GT 63 S
__________________
2021 Porsche Cayenne GTS Coupe - Current
2022 Porsche 911 GTS - January Production
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:02 PM.




m5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST