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      08-21-2017, 12:44 PM   #23
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      08-21-2017, 12:45 PM   #24
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Damn! 0-60 like a super car and space for the whole family, all our stuff and comfortable enough to eat it?s way through the autobahn all day and all night and stop at every race track on the way. Sounds like a winner
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      08-21-2017, 12:46 PM   #25
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That first edition is beautiful. Performance figures look fantastic too.
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I think the competition within the luxury performance segment is excellent.

Previous and current performance sedans are typically laden with safety features, technology and all-wheel drive systems are not lightweights, and you as well other here know these types of cars transition from generation to generation with more of these attributes with increased weight as an underlying detriment.

Whatever weight that has been removed from the F90 M5 is a plus. The new Panamera looks refreshing in the metal since it's launch and Mercedes-AMG continues its push but without much emotion to its car. Although typical Mercedes-Benz, but they own the sound department.

It's the hideous Audi RS7 with its exotic car straight line acceleration, road holding and wet weather abilities that that I have to begrudgingly say leads this particular segment. With BMW M coming after them now, hard.
Yeah, that's why for a while many believed the new M5 will come in much lighter, I have always said it won't, and that it would be a victory if the new M5 is not heavier than the F10.
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Everything looks great so far.

What I am desperately hoping is that the exhaust sounds the part. M could REALLY take a lesson from AMG in that department.

I'm not one for copying but I have never heard of a buyer of a performance car say their car is too loud. Please M. Make it roar. Like how the E63S or Jaguar F-Type R sounds.

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Duno if anyone else noticed, but fuel tank capacity is down to 17.9 gallons (68L) vs 21.92 gallons (83L) in the F10. Stupid.
So that's where the weight loss came from....lol j/k.
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Is it me or does each generation of M5 seem like we're getting less and less value, to the point where the F90 feels like a ripoff..? The M5 used to be... I dunno, special? We used to get bespoke engines and transmissions and suspensions... The E39 engine had 8 individual throttle bodies... The E60 was a freegin V-10 that revved to 8500 rpm! With the F-10, was disappointed the engine was largely sourced from the stock engine, but at least it had a high performance DCT tranny.... With the new M5, what the heck is the M-premium going towards exactly...? The profit margins for the F-90 must be through the roof.... Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the new car will be quick for sure, and I'm fully aware of that the sole purpose of any business is to make money, period. But as a long time m enthusiast and current F-10 driver, it's just a little sad I guess.....
But does the car really need a DCT? Honestly, the DCT was just something for people to gloat about at their local cars and coffee. It's not like the car will actually go visit a track anyway. At least not for 99% of M5 owners who drive them.
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Lost me at ZF slushbox. What a shame. Detracts from what is otherwise brilliant.
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Boring, predictable, no real innovation bar the 4wd. I expected more. Change that engine for gods sake, flare them rear wheel arches...
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But does the car really need a DCT? Honestly, the DCT was just something for people to gloat about at their local cars and coffee. It's not like the car will actually go visit a track anyway. At least not for 99% of M5 owners who drive them.
That's fair, but to my original point, is the premium still justified then? Is the M division now indistinguishable from Dinon, churning out chip-tuned versions of M550is? Heck the badge isn't exclusive anymore, they've literally slapped the m-badge on everything now, I thought I even saw an m-badge mountain bike somewhere...
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This thing will do sub 3 seconds 0-60 with a tune, whenever that may be. It will be interesting to see what the trap speed is in the 1/4. Interior is a slight refinement over the F10. Every manufacture is going with the pop up navigation screen now; it's just sitting there. It used to be a very aftermarket mod to do like the emblem on the front kidney grill... Maybe it's easier to change or swap or whatever. The rear brake calipers really bothered me and BMW carried it over to the F90. I understand it has e-brake built in, but common... someone must wonder if the M5 owner just did a BBK for the front and painted the rear calipers.
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Thats a good looking M5 and the numbers are fantastic!
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      08-21-2017, 01:00 PM   #38
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600 Hp are you kidding me....
Lol! They gotta leave room for improvement, i.e. milking you for more money for more horsepower with the Competition Package later on.
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Overall I like it. The marketing intro videos are fantastic though! I still hate the fact that they use another S63xx engine, but I'll have to study the engine improvements more in depth.
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THE BEST M5 YET! This will be my next car. European Delivery here we come.
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Overall I like it. The marketing intro videos are fantastic though! I still hate the fact that they use another S63xx engine, but I'll have to study the engine improvements more in depth.
Definitely looking forward to the new engine technical documents.
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14.96 x 1.10 [in] perforated, inner-vented single-piston floating calipers
Optional M carbon ceramic brakes ......... and rear single-piston floating calipers (14.96 x 1.10 in.)


Fxxk me.....even ceramic has ugly single piston too......
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