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      10-21-2021, 03:08 AM   #1079
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We're used to seeing S engines only in proper M cars but these models are going to get the brand new S68.
AG is phasing out ICE development by cyl count. N63 is the final BMW AG V8.

Might see a CN G38 i5L and the Global JLR partnership vehicles should be showing up in the database now (new Range Rover launches in a few days).
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Yes.
The new 5 series won't get a v8 from what I read. So the M550i will have the B58 hybrid as long as the M5 will get the S58 hybrid? Am I wrong?
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      10-21-2021, 11:33 AM   #1081
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The new 5 series won't get a v8 from what I read. So the M550i will have the B58 hybrid as long as the M5 will get the S58 hybrid? Am I wrong?
A B58 hybrid like in the X5 45e is actually pretty cool, if they give the HO B58 with 382hp.
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      10-21-2021, 12:11 PM   #1082
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The new 5 series won't get a v8 from what I read. So the M550i will have the B58 hybrid as long as the M5 will get the S58 hybrid? Am I wrong?
Yes, that's a real possibility.
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      10-21-2021, 12:14 PM   #1083
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A B58 hybrid like in the X5 45e is actually pretty cool, if they give the HO B58 with 382hp.
When the new iteration of B58 comes out, the 382hp version will be gone because the mainstream B58M will be tuned to 370hp and will only be used in mild hybrid or full hybrid configurations, slightly beating the B58O in the former case and giving a lot more power (exactly what you're asking for) in the latter case.
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A B58 hybrid like in the X5 45e is actually pretty cool, if they give the HO B58 with 382hp.
When the new iteration of B58 comes out, the 382hp version will be gone because the mainstream B58M will be tuned to 370hp and will only be used in mild hybrid or full hybrid configurations, slightly beating the B58O in the former case and giving a lot more power (exactly what you're asking for) in the latter case.
I guess the next M340i will have too ?

Thanks for the precisions, I like the hybrid setup more then full electric. Much better solution for my reality !
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      10-21-2021, 01:15 PM   #1085
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I guess the next M340i will have too ?

Thanks for the precisions, I like the hybrid setup more then full electric. Much better solution for my reality !
G2x continues with the existing powertrains for the foreseeable future.
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      10-21-2021, 01:20 PM   #1086
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Added a few more things to the top post, and I think that's it for now.
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      10-21-2021, 01:24 PM   #1087
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Since gouvernements are going to ram EV down our throat till we choke on them. Is the i5 touring going to be euro only or we might see it in North America?
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      10-21-2021, 03:50 PM   #1088
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Since gouvernements are going to ram EV down our throat till we choke on them. Is the i5 touring going to be euro only or we might see it in North America?
G61 is not coming to our side of the ocean, just like G31 never did.
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      10-21-2021, 06:27 PM   #1089
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G2x continues with the existing powertrains for the foreseeable future.
Good to know, so apparently there are no plans to update the B58 MHEV configuration for G2x Mx40i models. At least not until LCI.

Could you please comment regarding G26 M440i xDrive GC, do you see any hints until March 2022 production of:

1) Changes to standard equipment or new options?
2) New exterior colors or wheels?
3) Possible limited special options, colors or similar related to "M 50th anniversary"?
4) Any other changes (hidden or visible, even minor ones)?

Thank you very much for your contribution.
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Good to know, so apparently there are no plans to update the B58 MHEV configuration for G2x Mx40i models. At least not until LCI.

Could you please comment regarding G26 M440i xDrive GC, do you see any hints until March 2022 production of:

1) Changes to standard equipment or new options?
2) New exterior colors or wheels?
3) Possible limited special options, colors or similar related to "M 50th anniversary"?
4) Any other changes (hidden or visible, even minor ones)?

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The things not offered now:
11/21: Display Key,
03/22: M 50th anniversary, M Carbon exterior
07/22: M Package Pro, change in lumbar support and backrest
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Just when I thought I was done, I stumble on the engine specs for G87 and G09.
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      10-22-2021, 03:51 AM   #1092
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Just when I thought I was done, I stumble on the engine specs for G87 and G09.
Will X5 LCI be 2023 or 2024 model?

I would have thought LCI would come in 2022 as 2023 model?
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Just when I thought I was done, I stumble on the engine specs for G87 and G09.


Spotted this G87 M2 version ?
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Size doesn't increase dramatically with the exception of track/body width. G42 is as wide as current F87 with G87 increased even further. The G87 is going to be a rather special car. It will be the final non-hybridized ICE volume production model released, starting with a 450ps 6MT Pure.
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      10-22-2021, 06:56 AM   #1094
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Interesting and thanks also to the OP for the G87 updates. Am I right in assuming that the 450PS tune is in the base M2? Any word on output for the M2 Competition? Again I'm assuming the base M3/4, which we don't get in the UK, has 480PS in EU/UK (OPF) spec will this be the tune in the M2 Competition?

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Interesting and thanks also to the OP for the G87 updates. Am I right in assuming that the 450PS tune is in the base M2? Any word on output for the M2 Competition? Again I'm assuming the base M3/4, which we don't get in the UK, has 480PS in EU/UK (OPF) spec will this be the tune in the M2 Competition?
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G87 M2
  • Production 12/22-07/29
  • Production only at SLP Mexico
  • Same S58 as G80/G82 under the hood, tuned to 455hp. RWD - of course.
  • Will be available with a manual and an automatic. Most options will be the same as G80/G82, and I don't see much of that decontenting that was done with the original F87 compared with F80/F82. Though ceramic brakes and bucket seats seem to be missing, all the drivetrain and suspension things are the same as G82, and even carbon roof will be an option. The wheels will be 19" front and 20" rear, G87 specific design. The first four months of its production will fall into the "M 50th anniversary" period so expect the initial run to become somewhat collectible. And the new dashboard will be standard from day one.
  • G87 M2 Competition will indeed be called "M2 Competition".
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Just when I thought I was done, I stumble on the engine specs for G87 and G09.
455hp for the base M2 and for the G87 competition will it be the 473hp of the base M3?
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G70 7er
  • Production 07/22-06/29 with LCI in 03/26
  • Intro models: worldwide 735i (B58U2, 270hp), 740i (B58M2, 370hp), 750ix (S68, 535hp), i7 xDrive50 (480hp), possibly others; US 740i, 750ix, i7 xDrive50.

G14/G15/G16 8er and F91/F92/F93 M8
  • In production until 10/25 (G15, F91, F92, F93) and 06/26 (G14 and G16)

G05 X5/G06 X6/F95 X5M/F96 X6M
  • In production until 07/26 (G05, F95) and 03/27 (G06, F96)
  • LCI in 04/23. Models likely almost the same as now, with X6 sDrive40i dropped at least in the US. Will get the refreshed B58 and the new S68 engines. M package becomes standard on X6. Ambient Air and Acoustic Glazing will be available; X5 will have the illuminated grill like X6 does now.

G07 X7
  • In production until 11/27
  • LCI in 08/22. Will get the refreshed B57, B58 and the new S68 engines. The lineup remains the same as now. All models will get the 48V system. The new dashboard is making an appearance.
Given that we are seeing the S68 in the current X7 and the new 750ix, I'm surprised that we are also not seeing it in the 8 series before it goes out of production.

As for getting the S68 in the X5/X6, will it only be in the M version or also in the M50i version? I'd assume only in the M version if the new 5 series is skipping the 8-cyl engine (in the non-M version).
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Given that we are seeing the S68 in the current X7 and the new 750ix, I'm surprised that we are also not seeing it in the 8 series before it goes out of production.

As for getting the S68 in the X5/X6, will it only be in the M version or also in the M50i version? I'd assume only in the M version if the new 5 series is skipping the 8-cyl engine (in the non-M version).
8 series are clearly not where BMW is focusing its R&D these days. They're not getting a full scale LCI, their production has been extended past the usual 7 year cycle, I won't be surprised if BMW stops making cars for that segment altogether.

S68 will go into the M Performance cars, not full M ones. At least not yet.
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Size doesn't increase dramatically with the exception of track/body width. G42 is as wide as current F87 with G87 increased even further. The G87 is going to be a rather special car. It will be the final non-hybridized ICE volume production model released, starting with [COLOR="DarkRed"]a 450ps 6MT Pure[/COLOR].
Not complaining about a bump in output are we?

460ps Base
480ps Comp + Pure
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Not complaining about a bump in output are we?

460ps Base
480ps Comp + Pure
That gives 338/339kW for the base G87 M2 and 353/354kW for the G87 M2C/M2P.

That's quite a bump considering that the base F87 M2 (2016) got 370ps, the F87 M2C (2018) 410ps and the F87 M2 CS (2020) 450ps.
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