[brad65ford]

Some cool things at 20 min in, taking about tuning, map sensors and piggie back tunes etc..

I'm surely interesting in running their map sensor and tuning!!

[eric97hoh]

Originally Posted by brad65ford

Some cool things at 20 min in, taking about tuning, map sensors and piggie back tunes etc..

at what time stamp 20 min? he begins on the f90

[SGMM5]

Originally Posted by brad65ford

Some cool things at 20 min in, taking about tuning, map sensors and piggie back tunes etc..

I'm surely interesting in running their map sensor and tuning!!

Saw this as well. Good stuff. Very interesting to hear what they learned about the ecu and how it works.

[SenorFunkyPants]

Someone tell the interviewer to stop freaking interrupting and talking over Dinan.
No one cares what the interviewer has to say.

[eric97hoh]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Someone tell the interviewer to stop freaking interrupting and talking over Dinan.
No one cares what the interviewer has to say.

matt farra? he is like a car legend lmao rich guy that has been doing car reviews for like 15-20 years comedic person

[brad65ford]

after listening to it I'd have left my dp's on lol.

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by eric97hoh

matt farra? he is like a car legend lmao rich guy that has been doing car reviews for like 15-20 years comedic person

You'd think after all those years he would have learnt to show some respect to his guest and not talk over him.

[SGMM5]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Someone tell the interviewer to stop freaking interrupting and talking over Dinan.
No one cares what the interviewer has to say.

Hahaha!

[eric97hoh]

Originally Posted by brad65ford

Some cool things at 20 min in, taking about tuning, map sensors and piggie back tunes etc..

I'm surely interesting in running their map sensor and tuning!!

towards the end he says s63 800 wheel torque is the threshold and shit ultimately hits the fan at 880 wheel toque

[M5 F90 (2018)]

Originally Posted by eric97hoh

towards the end he says s63 800 wheel torque is the threshold and shit ultimately hits the fan at 880 wheel toque

Yeah i heard that too and think he said foot pound of torque 800 rather than Newton Meters and i need to listen again. Sounds ok if true.

Wish we had this guy and products over in the UK. Love the way they spend so much time testing and testing.

[eric97hoh]

Originally Posted by M5 F90 (2018)

Yeah i heard that too and think he said foot pound of torque 800 rather than Newton Meters and i need to listen again. Sounds ok if true.

Wish we had this guy and products over in the UK. Love the way they spend so much time testing and testing.

he makes it clear that beyond that its pointless he has stage 3 soft ware without downpipes or e85 on race gas 100 octane with intercoolers and heat exchangers making 885 hp which is beyond amazing to me

[pbonsalb]

885 rwhp or crank hp? 885 crank hp might be 750 rwhp on a Dynojet in SAE. Probably most of the cars trapping 135 are around 700 rwhp. The few doing closer to 140 must be making 750 rwhp or 885 crank

[eric97hoh]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

885 rwhp or crank hp? 885 crank hp might be 750 rwhp on a Dynojet in SAE. Probably most of the cars trapping 135 are around 700 rwhp. The few doing closer to 140 must be making 750 rwhp or 885 crank

he means crank 882 hp ,93 Octane: 824 Flywheel HP & 779 lb-ft Flywheel Torque but still offering these numbers with full warranty is amazing tbh you make 20-30 wheel less than somebody on e30 downpipes and meth but at least you know back of your mind you have 880 hp with full warranty on a m5 or m8

100 Octane: 882 Flywheel HP & 795 lb-ft Flywheel Torque
^
Specifications
Stock W HP & TQ: 587 Wheel HP & 565 lb-ft Wheel torque
Stock FW HP & TQ: 716 Flywheel HP & 689 lb-ft Flywheel torque
93 Octane:
Tuned W HP & TQ: 676 Wheel HP & 639 lb-ft Wheel torque
Tuned FW HP & TQ: 824 Flywheel HP & 779 lb-ft Flywheel torque
Delta W HP & TQ: 89 Wheel HP & 74 lb-ft Wheel torque
Delta FW HP & TQ: 109 Flywheel HP & 90 lb-ft Flywheel torque
100 Octane:
Tuned W HP & TQ: 723 Wheel HP & 652 lb-ft Wheel torque
Tuned FW HP & TQ: 882 Flywheel HP & 795 lb-ft Flywheel torque
Delta W HP & TQ: 136 Wheel HP & 87 lb-ft Wheel torque
Delta FW HP & TQ: 166 Flywheel HP & 106 lb-ft Flywheel torque

[AngryInch]

I like this Steven Dinan... What he says makes sense and I would agree to a lot of it.

I would love to know more about these ECU's.

What a good pod cast. I didn't know Carbahn makes built engines, does anyone run these? I haven't heard of anyone on here or draggy?

Gets better the longer you watch this... so much info, love it.

[bcparker2]

Originally Posted by AngryInch

I like this Steven Dinan... What he says makes sense and I would agree to a lot of it.

I would love to know more about these ECU's.

What a good pod cast. I didn't know Carbahn makes built engines, does anyone run these? I haven't heard of anyone on here or draggy?

Gets better the longer you watch this... so much info, love it.

I agree completely the whole thing is almost making me regret going with Evolve for my tune but lack of dragy/vbox/time slips with their tune is the only thing keeping me skeptical.

[AngryInch]

I haven’t seen a single person with their tune… let alone the engine… they seem to be like Weistec is to AMG… however, everyone was running weistec stuff online, all the fastest guys..

[eric97hoh]

Originally Posted by AngryInch

I haven’t seen a single person with their tune… let alone the engine… they seem to be like Weistec is to AMG… however, everyone was running weistec stuff online, all the fastest guys..

ya which makes me wonder but paying 5 grand for their stage 3 software and warranty may be why

[m5 guy]

Watching this video is what made me finally decide on tuning my f90. I popped the motor in my f10 and told myself I would only go Racechip on the f90. Got the itch and started doing research. Carbahn seems to be the only one who does oem level tuning where they look at the whole ecu and not just certain tables. Plus their software is part of a comprehensive assortment of hardware you don't really see offered elsewhere. Heat is the enemy and they seems to be the only one actually addressing it.

Now in Hawaii we only have 92 and off the shelf octane boosters so how much total power I will get out of it I do not know. I'm more after a complete package anyhow and if the level of integration and smarts in this tune is half of what he says it is I will have accomplished my goal.

[eric97hoh]

Originally Posted by m5 guy

Watching this video is what made me finally decide on tuning my f90. I popped the motor in my f10 and told myself I would only go Racechip on the f90. Got the itch and started doing research. Carbahn seems to be the only one who does oem level tuning where they look at the whole ecu and not just certain tables. Plus their software is part of a comprehensive assortment of hardware you don't really see offered elsewhere. Heat is the enemy and they seems to be the only one actually addressing it.

Now in Hawaii we only have 92 and off the shelf octane boosters so how much total power I will get out of it I do not know. I'm more after a complete package anyhow and if the level of integration and smarts in this tune is half of what he says it is I will have accomplished my goal.

I honestly agree he seems like a expert in his work and addresses the main problems and still adds good power with warranty

[M5 F90 (2018)]

Originally Posted by bcparker2

I agree completely the whole thing is almost making me regret going with Evolve for my tune but lack of dragy/vbox/time slips with their tune is the only thing keeping me skeptical.

Has the Evolve tune let you down or are you thinking maybe Evolve tune their cars in exactly the way Steve Dinan says most do by taking an off the shelf product and taking bits of this and that etc? Interested to hear your thoughts.

[bcparker2]

Originally Posted by M5 F90 (2018)

Has the Evolve tune let you down or are you thinking maybe Evolve tune their cars in exactly the way Steve Dinan says most do by taking an off the shelf product and taking bits of this and that etc? Interested to hear your thoughts.

Originally Posted by M5 F90 (2018)

Has the Evolve tune let you down or are you thinking maybe Evolve tune their cars in exactly the way Steve Dinan says most do by taking an off the shelf product and taking bits of this and that etc? Interested to hear your thoughts.

I will say this first, the only basis on tuning I have is when I tuned my lincoln navigator for $600 and got almost 30 pct more power with no mods necessary just e30 and go. So any information that may put doubt in my brain on a $2500 dollar purchase I will always put attention to.
So with that I got a stage 1 Evolve tune with tcu and I like it, I was expecting more for the money but understand that volume pricing matters and the Ole "M" tax is real. Also going from 600 hp to 660 or whatever is advertised probably is a lot harder than 450‐600. I do plan on going stage 2 eventually but I wanted to live with each stage before progressing so I don't get bored with the car.
I have faith that Evolve is doing it the right way I have no reason to believe otherwise given their extensive tests on their own vehicles as well. As an engineer in my experience if people can explain complex things simply it shows a mastery of the topic and for better or worse, I tend to trust those people if what they are saying jives with my understanding of the world. I think Steve did a very good job of doing this in the interview acting as a salesman for his company, and while doing so the generic comment he made about copy pasting and moving the limits around and not naming names he is really throwing a shadow on everyone else because how are we to know. We can ask but the tuner does not have to tell us the truth. This is really the deep dive into my reason for the comment above.

[SGMM5]

Originally Posted by bcparker2

I will say this first, the only basis on tuning I have is when I tuned my lincoln navigator for $600 and got almost 30 pct more power with no mods necessary just e30 and go. So any information that may put doubt in my brain on a $2500 dollar purchase I will always put attention to.
So with that I got a stage 1 Evolve tune with tcu and I like it, I was expecting more for the money but understand that volume pricing matters and the Ole "M" tax is real. Also going from 600 hp to 660 or whatever is advertised probably is a lot harder than 450‐600. I do plan on going stage 2 eventually but I wanted to live with each stage before progressing so I don't get bored with the car.
I have faith that Evolve is doing it the right way I have no reason to believe otherwise given their extensive tests on their own vehicles as well. As an engineer in my experience if people can explain complex things simply it shows a mastery of the topic and for better or worse, I tend to trust those people if what they are saying jives with my understanding of the world. I think Steve did a very good job of doing this in the interview acting as a salesman for his company, and while doing so the generic comment he made about copy pasting and moving the limits around and not naming names he is really throwing a shadow on everyone else because how are we to know. We can ask but the tuner does not have to tell us the truth. This is really the deep dive into my reason for the comment above.

From what I have found so far Evolve and Steve Dinan are two of the best and most thorough/thoughtful tuners out there with regard to this platform. I've been impressed with what I've seen from both in their interviews/videos over the years about this platform and others.

I think you are probably in good hands with either.