[josec70]

Summary:

1. Are CCB's worth it?

2. They offer better fade resistance, less unsprung weight, no dust, longevity, better pedal feel and are slightly larger (fronts).

3. They are close to 9k more, have been known to squeal as much as their steel cousins and need to be warmed up a bit.

4. Can the average human being feel a difference in everyday street driving? Yes, no, maybe ... who the f*ck knows. I've owned M5's with both and can feel some subtle differences (pedal feel). Chose steels for my current M5 Comp.

5. You have options .... replace OEM pads on steels and eliminate the squeal and dust.

6. If your father owns an M5 you have NO right to opine on anything around here going forward; Trevor please refrain from any further comments.

Conclusion:

Do whatever the f*ck makes you happy based on your driving style and budget! Try them both out and see if you feel it is worth it.

"Thank you, next"

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by josec70

Summary:

1. Are CCB's worth it?

2. They offer better fade resistance, less unsprung weight, no dust, longevity, better pedal feel and are slightly larger (fronts).

3. They are close to 9k more, have been known to squeal as much as their steel cousins and need to be warmed up a bit.

4. Can the average human being feel a difference in everyday street driving? Yes, no, maybe ... who the f*ck knows. I've owned M5's with both and can feel some subtle differences (pedal feel). Chose steels for my current M5 Comp.

5. You have options .... replace OEM pads on steels and eliminate the squeal and dust.

6. If your father owns an M5 you have NO right to opine on anything around here going forward; Trevor please refrain from any further comments.

Conclusion:

Do whatever the f*ck makes you happy based on your driving style and budget! Try them both out and see if you feel it is worth it.

"Thank you, next"

i'm banning you from the internet now. this is unacceptable

[Demon Barber]

Originally Posted by josec70

Summary:

1. Are CCB's worth it?

2. They offer better fade resistance, less unsprung weight, no dust, longevity, better pedal feel and are slightly larger (fronts).

3. They are close to 9k more, have been known to squeal as much as their steel cousins and need to be warmed up a bit.

4. Can the average human being feel a difference in everyday street driving? Yes, no, maybe ... who the f*ck knows. I've owned M5's with both and can feel some subtle differences (pedal feel). Chose steels for my current M5 Comp.

5. You have options .... replace OEM pads on steels and eliminate the squeal and dust.

6. If your father owns an M5 you have NO right to opine on anything around here going forward; Trevor please refrain from any further comments.

Conclusion:

Do whatever the f*ck makes you happy based on your driving style and budget! Try them both out and see if you feel it is worth it.

"Thank you, next"

This summary is on point. I don't think you can go wrong with either. I was initially worried I made the wrong choice with CCB on this car, but was pleasantly surprised.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Hammer91

I was VERY nervous to get CCBs on my 2014 F10 M5 Competition. heard they squeaked, would get damaged easily, would crack when wheels removed, ruined by armor all or other car products, and don't work when wet. All of that is BS. Have 5 years of flawless, quiet, clean operation, zero problems, and look awesome. Will be getting them on my 2021 LCI replacement F90 car for sure.

I have it on my F10 M5 as well, whether they are better than steel or not I don't really care, for me it's about curb appeal.

[somer]

Tested them on the F90 at the M-Town event, they were superb in every way, I stood on them from about 120 to 45mph or so and they were smooth and GRABBED HARD. No squeals and they look great.

[dappercivility]

Originally Posted by Demon Barber

Would like to get a discussion going regarding the optional carbon ceramic brakes versus the steel brakes. Besides initial cost and eventual replacement cost, are there any other down sides?

What is everyone going with? Anyone experienced them on the F10 and have a strong opinion to share, positive or negative?

Would love to have the carbon ceramic brakes though it would be ridiculously expensive at where I am.

[josec70]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

i'm banning you from the internet now. this is unacceptable

Hahahaha

[GTATX]

Old thread but trying to decide on a 2018 or 19 M5 with or without CCBs. Main concern longevity. How long do they really last? and any after market solutions once time to replace as 10k is ridiculous. Cars I'm looking at all have less than 10k miles and will probably keep them till 60k miles.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by GTATX

Old thread but trying to decide on a 2018 or 19 M5 with or without CCBs. Main concern longevity. How long do they really last? and any after market solutions once time to replace as 10k is ridiculous. Cars I'm looking at all have less than 10k miles and will probably keep them till 60k miles.

Do you plan on taking it to the track... road course I mean? If not, they offer near-zero advantage (absence of brake dust and a better track record of 'not squealing' being the two other advantages that spring to mind).

[GTATX]

Originally Posted by limeypride

Do you plan on taking it to the track... road course I mean? If not, they offer near-zero advantage (absence of brake dust and a better track record of 'not squealing' being the two other advantages that spring to mind).

Originally Posted by limeypride

Do you plan on taking it to the track... road course I mean? If not, they offer near-zero advantage (absence of brake dust and a better track record of 'not squealing' being the two other advantages that spring to mind).

Not gonna track my main concern is cost of replacement.

[GTATX]

Originally Posted by GTATX

Not gonna track my main concern is cost of replacement.

Originally Posted by limeypride

Do you plan on taking it to the track... road course I mean? If not, they offer near-zero advantage (absence of brake dust and a better track record of 'not squealing' being the two other advantages that spring to mind).

Also longevity is the last 100k or so then it's worth it.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by GTATX

Not gonna track my main concern is cost of replacement.

I've had 3 cars with CC brakes: 2 x Ms and an RS7P. All 3 were better on the track sustained-braking-wise but, other than that and the points I mentioned earlier, not worth it especially if you plan to keep it long-term. CC brakes also SUCK when cold--they're literally scary.

Side note: while the brakes stood up to the abuse on my RS7, its wheels did not and the temp of the brakes fractured the paint and melted small portions of the wheel face. And staggeringly, the brakes worked perfectly the whole time.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by GTATX

Also longevity is the last 100k or so then it's worth it.

I don't follow? CCs won't last that long any more than other brakes will.

[GTATX]

Originally Posted by limeypride

I don't follow? CCs won't last that long any more than other brakes will.

Originally Posted by limeypride

Do you plan on taking it to the track... road course I mean? If not, they offer near-zero advantage (absence of brake dust and a better track record of 'not squealing' being the two other advantages that spring to mind).

Most posts say pads last 50k or so and rotors 100k.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by GTATX

Most posts say pads last 50k or so and rotors 100k.

Not even close in my experience but I did track them so it's perfectly reasonable to assume I'm naive and useless here.

That said, it sounds you've already made up your mind--which aspect are you asking about?

// EDIT: did a quick search and Google backs your assertion.

[GTATX]

Originally Posted by limeypride

Not even close in my experience but I did track them so it's perfectly reasonable to assume I'm naive and useless here.

That said, it sounds you've already made up your mind--which aspect are you asking about?

// EDIT: did a quick search and Google backs your assertion.

Originally Posted by limeypride

Do you plan on taking it to the track... road course I mean? If not, they offer near-zero advantage (absence of brake dust and a better track record of 'not squealing' being the two other advantages that spring to mind).

I honestly haven't. I can get a 2018 M5 Non CCB with 13k miles for 84k or 2018 M5 CCB with 6k miles for 88k. Just trying to see if CC brakes don't last long then not worth it.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by GTATX

I honestly haven't. I can get a 2018 M5 Non CCB with 13k miles for 84k or 2018 M5 CCB with 6k miles for 88k. Just trying to see if CC brakes don't last long then not worth it.

Any other distinguishing factors between them? Comp vs. non-Comp. Packages. Sound system.

Do you plan to keep the car for +40K miles?

[GTATX]

Originally Posted by limeypride

Any other distinguishing factors between them? Comp vs. non-Comp. Packages. Sound system.

Do you plan to keep the car for +40K miles?

Originally Posted by limeypride

Do you plan on taking it to the track... road course I mean? If not, they offer near-zero advantage (absence of brake dust and a better track record of 'not squealing' being the two other advantages that spring to mind).

Probably gonna keep it 3 years possibly around 50k miles. Cars are otherwise identical.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by GTATX

Probably gonna keep it 3 years possibly around 50k miles. Cars are otherwise identical.

Personally, I'd consider the cars equivalent and test drive them both to distinguish if possible. If not, online Carfax research or pics might be the tiebreaker.

I think my best advice here is the brakes are moot in this comparison--focus on the usual other factors.

[Hockeytyme]

Originally Posted by GTATX

Probably gonna keep it 3 years possibly around 50k miles. Cars are otherwise identical.

I wasn't going to get them at first and added them to my order last minute. I am 1000% glad I did! I love them.

The response of the brakes is amazing, it reminds me of how my old drum brakes felt on my 74 datsun mini truck did when I was a kid and how connected they were to the road but obviously with much much better stopping power.

The dust and no squeaking is just an extra perk. The way the brakes feel and stop is amazing. When I jump in my S63 with standard brakes after being in my M5 it's like this big squishy mess. The first few inches has resistance but it's doing nothing. CCB's grab instantly and feel great.

The other major perk is weight. I think it's roughly 10lbs per corner of rotating mass.

[GTATX]

Originally Posted by Hockeytyme

I wasn't going to get them at first and added them to my order last minute. I am 1000% glad I did! I love them.

The response of the brakes is amazing, it reminds me of how my old drum brakes felt on my 74 datsun mini truck did when I was a kid and how connected they were to the road but obviously with much much better stopping power.

The dust and no squeaking is just an extra perk. The way the brakes feel and stop is amazing. When I jump in my S63 with standard brakes after being in my M5 it's like this big squishy mess. The first few inches has resistance but it's doing nothing. CCB's grab instantly and feel great.

The other major perk is weight. I think it's roughly 10lbs per corner of rotating mass.

Can u give me an idea of how many miles U expect them to last? I will never track the car.

[Hockeytyme]

Originally Posted by GTATX

Can u give me an idea of how many miles U expect them to last? I will never track the car.

No idea, they last until they last I guess. haha

I got them because of how they look, the weight, and performance and feel. Like any other brakes you have to replace them when they go bad.

I hear they last 3 times as long but cost 3 times as much to replace. So it's all the same to me