[///MeraldCity_G82]

PM me and I can connect you to the person.

[micvite]

Originally Posted by BSM_G808

PM me and I can connect you to the person.

how much over?

[Arcanesays]

I have one incoming. Will take 45k over.

[aj_g80]

Originally Posted by Arcanesays

I have one incoming. Will take 45k over.

are you a dealer?

if so, change your instagram name. Because that is far from a "deal"

[Arcanesays]

Originally Posted by aj_g80

are you a dealer?

if so, change your instagram name. Because that is far from a "deal"

You think a BMW M5 CS would sell for a deal? The car is worth it and so are it's drivers.

[nerdogray]

Pretty sure that much over MSRP is the exception, not the rule. It's not worth it. It's mostly hype. It *could* have been worth it. BMW *could* have done something really special, but a few extra HP, suspension, removal of things that make it a better daily driver (oops, I forgot.. it's a "track car"), those gimmicky CF seats, and extraordinarily limited paint selections only created demand for those chasing badges. As much hype that goes into and went into the CS, you would have thought they would have added a better exhaust. Nope. Can no one seriously see the marketing and shilling going for the thing? Everything about the demand for it is artificial and relies on a current demographic so willing to be deceived just for the chance to post about it on IG. Hell, just look at how many Teslas are out there, now.

But hey, with the 50th here, we now have our selection of emblems. Now that is a true and worthy celebration of the M series.

[///MeraldCity_G82]

Sorry everyone, it went really fast.

[m5_mbb7]

Originally Posted by nerdogray

Pretty sure that much over MSRP is the exception, not the rule. It's not worth it. It's mostly hype. It *could* have been worth it. BMW *could* have done something really special, but a few extra HP, suspension, removal of things that make it a better daily driver (oops, I forgot.. it's a "track car"), those gimmicky CF seats, and extraordinarily limited paint selections only created demand for those chasing badges. As much hype that goes into and went into the CS, you would have thought they would have added a better exhaust. Nope. Can no one seriously see the marketing and shilling going for the thing? Everything about the demand for it is artificial and relies on a current demographic so willing to be deceived just for the chance to post about it on IG. Hell, just look at how many Teslas are out there, now.

But hey, with the 50th here, we now have our selection of emblems. Now that is a true and worthy celebration of the M series.

You couldn’t be farther from the truth. You wouldn’t even be on this thread if a part of you didn’t want a CS. Have fun with your regular car. Maybe you can drive a CS in your dreams

[Ominous]

reply to nerdogray - I am 72 years old and owned many car like most on this site. I paid 20K over MSRP for my M5 CS. First car I ever paid over MSRP. After 1250 miles I have ZERO regrets. This is a drivers car period - a great one - a really great one. Too bad more will not get to enjoy the pleasures the M5 CS offers regardless of the cost. Just one mans perspective. Congratulations to whomever was able to get that available car.

[TROYJEUP]

Originally Posted by nerdogray

Pretty sure that much over MSRP is the exception, not the rule. It's not worth it. It's mostly hype. It *could* have been worth it. BMW *could* have done something really special, but a few extra HP, suspension, removal of things that make it a better daily driver (oops, I forgot.. it's a "track car"), those gimmicky CF seats, and extraordinarily limited paint selections only created demand for those chasing badges. As much hype that goes into and went into the CS, you would have thought they would have added a better exhaust. Nope. Can no one seriously see the marketing and shilling going for the thing? Everything about the demand for it is artificial and relies on a current demographic so willing to be deceived just for the chance to post about it on IG. Hell, just look at how many Teslas are out there, now.

But hey, with the 50th here, we now have our selection of emblems. Now that is a true and worthy celebration of the M series.

The seats and hood are great, and the steering software is great. Other than that, the M5cs is all marketing. My second 2022 m5 is faster than my m5cs as well as my 2019 m5 was also. M5cs is down significantly in torque with the engine map they have coming out of the factory.

Those press cars had a different engine tune in order to get to 60 in 2.6 seconds.

I have taken 3 very experienced m5 customers in the two cars back to back and they all are shocked at how slow the m5cs is.

For 146,000 sticker which mine was it's a good value, but not for $195k or whatever. This is considering my other 2022 was 122k.

[boost3dx]

Originally Posted by TROYJEUP

The seats and hood are great, and the steering software is great. Other than that, the M5cs is all marketing. My second 2022 m5 is faster than my m5cs as well as my 2019 m5 was also. M5cs is down significantly in torque with the engine map they have coming out of the factory.

Those press cars had a different engine tune in order to get to 60 in 2.6 seconds.

I have taken 3 very experienced m5 customers in the two cars back to back and they all are shocked at how slow the m5cs is.

For 146,000 sticker which mine was it's a good value, but not for $195k or whatever. This is considering my other 2022 was 122k.

Either your other M5 is modified, or something is wrong with your CS.

I finally got through break in on my CS and it feels like a completely different car. It's easily way faster than my previous M5 Comp.

They don't have different tunes. C'mon man. You really think they did that? lol

[crypto]

Originally Posted by boost3dx

Either your other M5 is modified, or something is wrong with your CS.

I finally got through break in on my CS and it feels like a completely different car. It's easily way faster than my previous M5 Comp.

They don't have different tunes. C'mon man. You really think they did that? lol

Theyre just using 1ft rollout if they're getting 2.6s like magazines do it. It shaves .2-.3s from what everyone else reports. My breakin service is tomorrow. Hopefully get to drive it like I should after that and get some 0-60 runs in coming days or weeks.

[Greer]

I have seen this a few times where people thought the 2022 M5 Comp was faster. I would like to see a dyno of both cars after the break-in service. I do not think BMW would allow the M5 CS not to be the top dog.

[m5_mbb7]

Yeah, anyone who thinks their m5 comp is faster or has more torque than the cs either is hallucinating or has a lemon and should get their car bought back… my m5 comp on stock tune with just downpipes and no tune had a 10.6 in the quarter mile at 130mph with an ambient temperature of 56 degrees. 0-60 of 2.85; no wheelspin at all on that run on Cup 2s.

My CS - without even downpipes, just intake - certainly pushes more because it lights the tires up any time I do a launch, and then cuts power until it hooks. Very annoying. Even if my cup 2s are 160 degrees after a canyon run and the engine is likely heat soaked, it will still spin wheels and throttle power through first. I’ve done this with the same exact conditions in the same location as I got the 10.6 with my 2021 competition. Same result; I’ve tried everything and the only scenario it actually hooks is with 2+ passengers and hot tires. I’ll go to a drag strip in a couple weeks and update you with a quarter mile time because I’m very curious how it would do on a prepped track.

Based on feel, the CS is certainly faster than my m5 competition which had downpipes. Pulls much, especially above 80mph, and it keeps pulling until about 175 when it drops off. I didn’t have my m drivers package on the comp so I can’t really compare that top end but I’d imagine the difference is significant considering the weight savings.

Transmission is also undoubtedly tuned compared to the comp, it has none of the “farts” on upshifts and shifts are much quicker, especially for gears 2 and 3. For these shifts, I even hear tires chirp with how abrupt the shifts are. As for driving feel, it is so much more engaging than the comp—the only thing I miss is driver assistance. My CS also wants oil changes every 4500 miles which is strange since I don’t track the car, but BMW pays for it for now so it’s fine by me. Also the brake pads need to be changed right now at 10,000 miles which is odd to me because my 2021 competition also had carbon ceramics and never needed pads changed in the 17k miles I owned it, and according to people on these forums, they should last 50k miles on ccbs and rotors should last longer. Weird, but I’m going to take it up with my SA soon.

Overall, the CS is certainly more than just marketing… it’s pretty clear that a lot of m5 owners get jealous that the cs is so much better than their cars and try to reason to themselves why it’s not, or why it’s just hype. As for TROYJEUP, I’m convinced your CS is a lemon or maybe you got a different tune from every other CS ever… perhaps people that skimped out on getting frozen paint on their CS’es don’t get as good of a tune as the frozen ones… that’s about as likely as your claim of how press cars “get a different tune” as every other car . I also take my cars on canyons on a weekly basis and obviously the cs gets much faster times than the m5 competition did.

Edit, by the way, my m5cs has gotten a quarter mile (with hot cup 2s) of 10.72 at 130mph. This is with a lot of wheelspin and that time got a 0-60 of 3.15 seconds. This is definitely because of the wheelspin and power cut. My guess is with a conservative estimate of 2.85 second 0-60 assuming no wheelspin, it will get a 10.4. Another difference between my competition and the cs is that it doesn’t short shift when the computer detects wheelspin either which is nice.

All these times are measured with dragy with no rollout and on 91 gas. When I go to the drag strip I’ll put 95 octane and mix with ethanol to e25 to get the most optimal mix for cooling and timing to get hopefully the best time the car can achieve. Maybe I’ll also remove all the junk from the glove box and go on a diet for a couple of days beforehand. Y’know, weight savings

[bam808]

idk m5_mbb7 this dude had 3 "experienced M5 customers" that all said it's slow. Your real world experience with data is therefore invalid

Not sure what motivates these clown posts, but it's obvious the CS is a much improved car. Faster, lighter, more driver focused. Saying there are different tunes and the M5 comp is faster is hilarious.

Interested to see if you tune for ethanol and add downpipes etc what times you run. There is so much headroom left in this car. Props to you for using it as intended

[aj_g80]

i wouldn't say the CS is "so" much better than the Comp.

BMW could've did more. More hp, shaved more weight, better exhaust

the difference is negligible between Comp and CS, but it would have definitely made me feel better about dropping 150k on it...

[boost3dx]

Originally Posted by aj_g80

i wouldn't say the CS is "so" much better than the Comp.

BMW could've did more. More hp, shaved more weight, better exhaust

the difference is negligible between Comp and CS, but it would have definitely made me feel better about dropping 150k on it...

Did you just decide to not read the reply two above yours? It is not a "negligible" difference.

Without making the car even more impractical than it already is, how could they have shaved more weight? It has carbon almost everywhere you could put carbon on a daily driver.

Sure they could add more HP through tuning but then it's going to be less reliable and less efficient - BMW has regulations they need to follow and they don't want their cars needing more warranty issues than they already do. Without redesigning and making a whole new motor for more power, I doubt they could do so while full-filling their efficiency (if you want to call it that) regulations and reliability. Theirs a reason why they flag anyone who tunes's their car.

[aj_g80]

I just felt like if they really wanted to shave more weight they could have removed HUD, power seats, glovebox. But then everyone woild be crying its so impractical. So you cant really win. Overall its a cool car, hopefully it holds some value. Im not in awe of it, like everyone on this forum is screaming about.

[Ominous]

There is no reason for anyone lucky enough to own a CS to defend whether it is better, faster, ect. than a comp. Just be glad you are one of the lucky few. BTW it is a great drivers car regardless IMO.

[boost3dx]

Originally Posted by aj_g80

I just felt like if they really wanted to shave more weight they could have removed HUD, power seats, glovebox. But then everyone woild be crying its so impractical. So you cant really win. Overall its a cool car, hopefully it holds some value. Im not in awe of it, like everyone on this forum is screaming about.

It's a sedan. It's not meant to be a all out track beast saving every oz of weight it can. It is already missing the center console.

What you mentioned would save what, 20lbs? If you wanted to get ever oz of performance out of a car such as the CS, you wouldn't buy a sedan. You buy a CS because of how good it already is PLUS the fact it is already pretty practical.

[bam808]

Originally Posted by boost3dx

It's a sedan. It's not meant to be a all out track beast saving every oz of weight it can. It is already missing the center console.

What you mentioned would save what, 20lbs? If you wanted to get ever oz of performance out of a car such as the CS, you wouldn't buy a sedan. You buy a CS because of how good it already is PLUS the fact it is already pretty practical.

Lol exactly. If your goal is set the Nurburgring record get yourself a GT2 RS. Actually if you want to set the Nurburgring record in a sedan, this is the car. Once BMW sends their driver they will easily clip the record given a journalist ran 7:29 in one.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by bam808

Lol exactly. If your goal is set the Nurburgring record get yourself a GT2 RS. Actually if you want to set the Nurburgring record in a sedan, this is the car. Once BMW sends their driver they will easily clip the record given a journalist ran 7:29 in one.

No it won't beat the project 8. That will be the record for ICE sedans.