Potential of the New M4, Faster or Slower then the M3 GTS ?

[Flying Brick]

Originally Posted by Rupes

The 435 is a mix of luxury, power, reliability and fuel efficiency. It's easy to get extra power by sacrificing some of the other attributes. The M3/M4 is a much more focused on the sport side of the equation out of the box.

It all depends on the engine specs, But its is much more easier to gain power from a turbo setup over a Na setup. On average you can boost 30 % more power to a stock engine. So i can see the M3/M4 gaining 80-100 hp from a good tune.

Originally Posted by Rupes

Don't you think if 80-100 extra HP was available from chipping the car, the M division would have done it themselves? I think your a bit optimistic with these claims.

It would make no sense for M division to make the M3/M4 500+ hp, Because that would defeat the purpose of M5. Plus if they give you the full potential of there engines, how will they sell you a option like "Competition package".

[Sapper_M3]

Originally Posted by Flying Brick

It all depends on the engine specs, But its is much more easier to gain power from a turbo setup over a Na setup. On average you can boost 30 % more power to a stock engine. So i can see the M3/M4 gaining 80-100 hp from a good tune.

It would make no sense for M division to make the M3/M4 500+ hp, Because that would defeat the purpose of M5. Plus if they give you the full potential of there engines, how will they sell you a option like "Competition package".

A 500 horsepower M3 would absolutely not "defeat the purpose" of the M5. The M5 is intended to be a significantly larger, more luxurious cruiser than the M3.

With that said, non-enthusiast ///M car buyers would certainly be confused if the M3/4 produced the same 560 horsepower as the M5/6, so I wouldn't expect to see that anytime soon (or ever).

[crypticc]

Originally Posted by solstice

I think the GTS will eat the M4 on the track unless the driver is a pro. But I assume a future special version M4 will be wickedly fast and spank all prior M3s.

This. You KNOW they'll bump the power or do a comp pack for LCI

[bimmerj]

LOL!

[BimmerBoomer]

A new M3/M4 should always beat the current 911 S around Nordschleife.

[deletedelete]

Originally Posted by BimmerBoomer

A new M3/M4 should always beat the current 911 S around Nordschleife.

Haha. I doubt it's even going to beat the Camaro or Stingray.

[BimmerBoomer]

Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

Haha. I doubt it's even going to beat the Camaro or Stingray.

Once upon a time (E46) an M3 was a near supercar you could rely on as an everyday driver. Not so much either now.

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by BimmerBoomer

Once upon a time (E46) an M3 was a near supercar you could rely on as an everyday driver. Not so much either now.

That's because every other manufacturer finally woke up and started making incredibly cars

[JRV]

Originally Posted by Hedoniste

I had the chance to be passenger in my friend's GTS (around the Ring) and to drive it (carefully) on public roads. All I want to say is that it doesn't matter which one is faster because the M4/M3 will never be as track focused than a GTS. It's just amazing how this car is different than a regular M3. When I drove back my E92 zcp I had the feeling I was driving a Prius...

I think this makes the most sense. The track focused car would seem to be the one that shines on the track. As for straight line acceleration that's different, wasn't built for that. The CSL was still faster than the E9X M3 around the ring. I bet the same will be true of this coming gen and the GTS, but of course just a guess.

[Hedoniste]

Originally Posted by JRV

I think this makes the most sense. The track focused car would seem to be the one that shines on the track. As for straight line acceleration that's different, wasn't built for that. The CSL was still faster than the E9X M3 around the ring. I bet the same will be true of this coming gen and the GTS, but of course just a guess.

Here is a vid of my friend on the Ring: