Winter setups...I know its early

Maitre_Absolut · 09-06-2018, 06:25 PM

I need to start looking given how little there seems to be available for these cars and the multitude of size options.

So what is everyone running in the winter?

I would ideally like to run OEM 19s with 255 or 265 /35/19 in the front (The CS has 265) and drop to 275/35/19 in the rear. I believe PA4s are available in W rating with correct loads.

Anyone know the wheel offset for 19 and 20inch BMW rims? In case I need to buy aftermarket.

Ive seen some run square setups with 255s? Thats a 2.6% difference on the rear.

instarand · 09-06-2018, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Maitre_Absolut

I need to start looking given how little there seems to be available for these cars and the multitude of size options.

So what is everyone running in the winter?

I would ideally like to run OEM 19s with 255 or 265 /35/19 in the front (The CS has 265) and drop to 275/35/19 in the rear. I believe PA4s are available in W rating with correct loads.

Anyone know the wheel offset for 19 and 20inch BMW rims? In case I need to buy aftermarket.

Ive seen some run square setups with 255s? Thats a 2.6% difference on the rear.

I have a '18 CP (20 inch 666M wheels) and I'm patiently waiting for the Michelin Alpin PA4's to release that 265 you mentioned. Currently, they have a 285/30/20 that fits my rears, just need that matching 265/30/20 which is said to release later this month - according to a Michelin customer support rep I spoke with. They are W rated with correct load (99 and 94 I believe).

schnell325 · 09-06-2018, 10:15 PM

No issues at all running a 255 square setup on the stock 437s ��

///M3_F80 · 09-06-2018, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by schnell325

No issues at all running a 255 square setup on the stock 437s ��

Ditto!

Maitre_Absolut · 09-07-2018, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by schnell325

No issues at all running a 255 square setup on the stock 437s ��

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Originally Posted by ///M3_F80

Ditto!

I guess if you are ok with the 2.6% overall smaller diameter. Tire must be somewhat stretched as well vs the 285, increasing the difference even more.

Tire specs?

///M3_F80 · 09-07-2018, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Maitre_Absolut

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Originally Posted by schnell325

No issues at all running a 255 square setup on the stock 437s ��

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Originally Posted by ///M3_F80

Ditto!

I guess if you are ok with the 2.6% overall smaller diameter. Tire must be somewhat stretched as well vs the 285, increasing the difference even more.

Tire specs?

No stretch when running a 19" wheel. I ran this set up last winter and it was perfectly fine.

255-35-19

Running these on the oem 19's would have a slight stretch but not terrible.

schnell325 · 09-07-2018, 10:58 AM

^^ same specs as above.

schnell325 · 09-07-2018, 11:00 AM

And the added bonus of being able to swap the tires front to rear to extend tire life is an added bonus

325iExecutive · 09-07-2018, 11:09 AM

I am running 255 square setup on aftermarket rims. However, I am running them on 18s. Not to distract but why are you interested on 19s? unless you have CCBs.... than it makes sense.

Maitre_Absolut · 09-07-2018, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 325iExecutive

I am running 255 square setup on aftermarket rims. However, I am running them on 18s. Not to distract but why are you interested on 19s? unless you have CCBs.... than it makes sense.

I have always run stock rims on winters, mostly for looks and convenience. I don't understand why one would spend so much on a car only to ruin the look for one third of the year. Besides winters are so mild downtown Toronto 18s with narrow tires is overkill.

Dropping to 19s is a already a big enough step! Mainly want to preserve these CS rims just in case.

ramsal · 09-08-2018, 04:54 PM

Hey guys, just popped by a local tire shop to look at square winter setup and they seem to think that many non-oem 18" rims won't clear the brakes on my car. I don't have CCB or competition pack but I am currently on staggered 19s.

They are also recommending spacers on the back to align the front and rear tracks.

Do I need OEM rims to get the right 18" fitment?

Rewted · 09-08-2018, 06:01 PM

What is CCB? Also, if you have the Competition package rim fitment differs?

Habber · 09-08-2018, 06:57 PM

Shame on you for talking winters in September....

bobblehead · 09-08-2018, 07:20 PM

Not at all... in Canada, sometimes, we do see snow fall as early as September and by early October, people will have started to put on winters.

325iExecutive · 09-08-2018, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ramsal

Hey guys, just popped by a local tire shop to look at square winter setup and they seem to think that many non-oem 18" rims won't clear the brakes on my car. I don't have CCB or competition pack but I am currently on staggered 19s.

They are also recommending spacers on the back to align the front and rear tracks.

Do I need OEM rims to get the right 18" fitment?

Nope - you can run nonOEM rims for 18s and get 255 square setup

ramsal · 09-08-2018, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rewted

What is CCB? Also, if you have the Competition package rim fitment differs?

Carbon Ceramic Brakes

ramsal · 09-09-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 325iExecutive

Nope - you can run nonOEM rims for 18s and get 255 square setup

Are spacers required in the rear to align the tracks? if so what size for an 8" wheel?

Maitre_Absolut · 09-09-2018, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

Not at all... in Canada, sometimes, we do see snow fall as early as September and by early October, people will have started to put on winters.

He's from Montreal and thus very aware!

Im downtown Toronto and honestly only need winters for a few days!

Anyone know the OEM wheel width and offset of the 19s and 20s?

Mousejunior · 09-09-2018, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Maitre_Absolut

He's from Montreal and thus very aware!

Im downtown Toronto and honestly only need winters for a few days!

Anyone know the OEM wheel width and offset of the 19s and 20s?

Stock competition wheels
20x9 265/30/20 29et 25.3lbs
20x10 285/30/20 40et. 27.1lbs

And for the 19”
19x9 255/35/19 29et 21.9lbs
19x10 275/35/19 40et. 22.5lbs

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...1&d=1535387026

Maitre_Absolut · 09-10-2018, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mousejunior

Stock competition wheels
20x9 265/30/20 29et 25.3lbs
20x10 285/30/20 40et. 27.1lbs

And for the 19”
19x9 255/35/19 29et 21.9lbs
19x10 275/35/19 40et. 22.5lbs

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...1&d=1535387026

Thank you!

Mousejunior · 09-11-2018, 09:31 PM

So I went to the dealer today and for my M4 the winter tire package is as follow:

19” x 8.5 front
19” x 9 rear
Style is 641M

Tires are Continental Winter Contact TS830P 255/35/19

Package price is around $5400 cad

I found these guys are selling exactly the same package

http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/bmw...41m_wheel_4546

01ON19 · 09-11-2018, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousejunior

So I went to the dealer today and for my M4 the winter tire package is as follow:

19” x 8.5 front
19” x 9 rear
Style is 641M

Tires are Continental Winter Contact TS830P 255/35/19

Package price is around $5400 cad

I found these guys are selling exactly the same package

http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/bmw...41m_wheel_4546

Or order from USA for about half of that. See https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...bC1sNi1nYXM%3D

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325iExecutive First Lieutenant 274 Rep 390 Posts Drives: 2019 Mazda CX5 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Oakville, ON iTrader: (0)	I am running 255 square setup on aftermarket rims. However, I am running them on 18s. Not to distract but why are you interested on 19s? unless you have CCBs.... than it makes sense. __________________ Current 2019 Mazda CX5 Retired 2017 BMW M3 Competition, 2007 Mazda CX9, 2005 BMW 325i
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ramsal Second Lieutenant 58 Rep 251 Posts Drives: 2017 X5 & 2018 M3 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0)	18" rims? Hey guys, just popped by a local tire shop to look at square winter setup and they seem to think that many non-oem 18" rims won't clear the brakes on my car. I don't have CCB or competition pack but I am currently on staggered 19s. They are also recommending spacers on the back to align the front and rear tracks. Do I need OEM rims to get the right 18" fitment? __________________ 2018 M3 2017 X5 35d xdrive Msport Sold: 2014 X5 35i xdrive Msport
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Mousejunior First Lieutenant 122 Rep 343 Posts Drives: 2018 M4 SMB 6MT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Toronto iTrader: (11) Garage List 2018 BMW M4 [0.00]	So I went to the dealer today and for my M4 the winter tire package is as follow: 19” x 8.5 front 19” x 9 rear Style is 641M Tires are Continental Winter Contact TS830P 255/35/19 Package price is around $5400 cad I found these guys are selling exactly the same package http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/bmw...41m_wheel_4546
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