[Flying Ace]

100% agree. Don't kill the early-adopters. Do what Porsche does when they launch a new generation. Porsche has recently launched the "Turbo" and "S" models first. Then the base and all other follow.

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

This is why BMW in my view has lost their way, screwing customers. This is what Mclaren does to keep revenue flowing, and it just depreciates the last model. All manufactures add better products, but hell you don’t do it before the first is released. This is why I would never buy a first run BMW. I’ve owned a BMW since 1999, and 2018 will be the first year of not having a BMW in my garage in almost 20 years ...damn shame. No way I will drop the coin and you bring out the better car a year later and you could have done it with the current. We all should sit the first year out, and see what they do with all the old cars(:

[KoenG]

Originally Posted by daddymalu

600 HP seems like such a small upgrade from the f10, feels like BMW does this on purpose to make room for the competition package....

it's not, it's from 560 to 600hp and from 680Nm to 750Nm. When you're near the summit, every step is a technical uphill batle.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by KoenG

it's not, it's from 560 to 600hp and from 680Nm to 750Nm. When you're near the summit, every step is a technical uphill batle.

It's a zero upgrade in hp from the F10 CP ......
lol. A twin turbo 4.4 L is in no way at its limits at 600hp . No coincidence that 600 hp puts its power to weight EXACTLY the same at the E63S it's primary competition. It's classic doing just enough to leave room for multiple step wise increases in power with zero investment from BMW depending on what the motor needs to remain competitive.

[NYAWE60]

Get ready....$175K M5's are coming....

[clbmw]

The day I think 600hp is not enough is a good day to consider spending the difference between the base and CS model on some therapy.

[mainly]

Originally Posted by adc

E63S beat the Panamera Turbo recently, as a better and more exciting car than the Porsche (!). M5 will have a tough fight...

e63 more exciting and better than a panamera?

i dont believe it.

but.... both e63s and m5 of course will be faster than the panamera turbo, and should be faster than the turbo s as well.

ive seen some runs on youtube, the turbo s isnt that fast from 100-200

LOOK at this...

vs panamera turbo S, like 1 -1.5 seconds SLOWER.