[Vic55]

what do you think of this Lusso- newer though

https://ainventory.eurocaroc.com/veh...a623e8f5d72ded

[Jo-Sta07]

I like it, but the allure of the V12 is what attracts me to the car. Add in the 4WD which I'd need to realistically make this a 4 season car for me. The N.A. version is the only one for me. I'm going for the test drive Saturday.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

I like it, but the allure of the V12 is what attracts me to the car. Add in the 4WD which I'd need to realistically make this a 4 season car for me. The N.A. version is the only one for me. I'm going for the test drive Saturday.

The 19 is 4WD no?

[Jo-Sta07]

I think all the Lusso T's are RWD only. Maybe I'm wrong?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

I think all the Lusso T's are RWD only. Maybe I'm wrong?

Its still a GTC4 so its AWD

https://www.autoweek.com/drives/a171...ather-testing/

[IncurveWheels]

Crazy to see this thread... Boden & HRE just did an FF and I am IN LOVE with the look the gt4 would look amazing

[IancoleTX]

Originally Posted by Vic55

what do you think of this Lusso- newer though

https://ainventory.eurocaroc.com/veh...a623e8f5d72ded

Love the spec but must be the V12 or why bother swapping V8TTs, in my opinion, having never driven one lol

[mhh]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

I think all the Lusso T's are RWD only. Maybe I'm wrong?

You are correct.

[BwoodBMW]

Originally Posted by Vic55

incorrect....

https://www.caranddriver.com/ferrari/gtc4lusso

https://www.ferrari.com/en-US/auto/gtc4lusso

I believe he was actually correct... question was specifically about the Lusso T

Pretty sure the T is V8 and RWD only... right?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

I believe he was actually correct... question was specifically about the Lusso T

Pretty sure the T is V8 and RWD only... right?

yep my bad--- I listed the V12 specs

My apologies to all here... the Covid has taken my cognition.

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by Vic55

yep my bad--- I listed the V12 specs

My apologies to all here... the Covid has taken my cognition.

Not COVID-19.........Turbo SSSSSSSSSS

[Quickburn7]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Not COVID-19.........Turbo SSSSSSSSSS

Trying to configure the 992 Turbo S now and can't decide on the spec for a daily.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Quickburn7

Trying to configure the 992 Turbo S now and can't decide on the spec for a daily.

Why? What options are there that would detract from the daily?


Sorry OT--- lets discuss this here:

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...5#post26014895

[Jo-Sta07]

Ok so here's my impressions versus the M5:

Look: interior is way better, worlds apart. Far more special and better quality. Exterior I prefer but M8 is better looking than Lusso. It's definitely more attractive in person.

Comfort: beats the M5. Ride quality is better. Had all the amenities of the M5 with heated/AC seats, Apple car play. Etc.

Performance: not as quick as the M5. The Lusso needs revs. Feels slow below 5k RPM. Above 5k is pulls very hard. Similar pull to M5. Where the M5 loves 3000-6500 RPM the Lusso loves 5000-8000 RPM. Just takes a different style. Car is very planted. Transmission is excellent and it's nice to pull bit paddles on a daily. Steering feel is better than M5 but M5 has no feel. Brakes are OK but at least they didn't squeak!

Sound: Lusso is quiet below 5k RPM but sounds very good, albeit a bit muted above that. M5 sounds ok but I'm not a big fan of the loud burbles in sport plus mode. Lusso wins here.

Overall: 8.9/10. Great daily. I'll see if I can get the deal done this week. Absolutely so special to be inside a Ferrari again. It's not like any other car.

[Jo-Sta07]

Sit rep for all those curious (of which I'm sure there are many (kidding))

Decided to pass on the Lusso, for now. Couple reasons. 1. It's kind of shocking how much quicker the M5 is versus the Lusso. 2. The value differential between the cars is over $110k right now. I've had my M5 for 9 months and I've lost $30k in value. No way I'm spending $3500 a month to drive a BMW.

The part that's killing me though is that my C8 convertible is likely delayed to 2021 even though I got my order in before the plants shut down. So I decided to search for another 458. Located a really good deal on one in Florida. Grigio Titans, 2014, full PPF, mint condition. We'll see.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

Sit rep for all those curious (of which I'm sure there are many (kidding))

Decided to pass on the Lusso, for now. Couple reasons. 1. It's kind of shocking how much quicker the M5 is versus the Lusso. 2. The value differential between the cars is over $110k right now. I've had my M5 for 9 months and I've lost $30k in value. No way I'm spending $3500 a month to drive a BMW.

The part that's killing me though is that my C8 convertible is likely delayed to 2021 even though I got my order in before the plants shut down. So I decided to search for another 458. Located a really good deal on one in Florida. Grigio Titans, 2014, full PPF, mint condition. We'll see.

You can pick up a low mileage 720s for 200-250k. It’s quick and visceral but still daily driveable.

[Jo-Sta07]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

You can pick up a low mileage 720s for 200-250k. It’s quick and visceral but still daily driveable.

I agree, I looked around. 720S is my favorite car under $1mm. However, I have two friends in exotic car business. Big brokers, also with detail shops. They both told me the 720S is one of the poorest built cars (confirming internet rumors), but when they work right they're phenomenal. I don't live close enough to a Mclaren dealer to deal with that annoyance.

Also, my estimation is that a 458 is a car that is nearly fully depreciated (or as close as possible during Covid). The 720S has 50-75k more to fall in the next 2 years. I don't expect to keep this 458 longer than 2 years.

Finally (you can see I'm all over the place) I did inquire about taking over a 720S lease. I was comfortable with a $3k a month payment and the term was only 24 months. Ally has suspended all lease transfers during Covid and for some reason won't transfer from a different state. So there went that idea.

[Funf6cyl]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

I agree, I looked around. 720S is my favorite car under $1mm. However, I have two friends in exotic car business. Big brokers, also with detail shops. They both told me the 720S is one of the poorest built cars (confirming internet rumors), but when they work right they're phenomenal. I don't live close enough to a Mclaren dealer to deal with that annoyance.

Also, my estimation is that a 458 is a car that is nearly fully depreciated (or as close as possible during Covid). The 720S has 50-75k more to fall in the next 2 years. I don't expect to keep this 458 longer than 2 years.

Finally (you can see I'm all over the place) I did inquire about taking over a 720S lease. I was comfortable with a $3k a month payment and the term was only 24 months. Ally has suspended all lease transfers during Covid and for some reason won't transfer from a different state. So there went that idea.

Spot on wrt Mclaren. I’ve said it time and time again, they are, especially given the price (and subsequent massive depreciation) built like garbage. I know some owners around here who have had horrendous experience with Mclarens, particularly the 720S to the point where Mclaren begged them not to divulge info on what happened. I looked into a a 570 but just don’t want to deal with those kinds of issues. I stick to Porsche which IMO are still the best built and can take anything you throw at them. Sure, they’re not as flashy, but I don’t buy cars for anything other than my own enjoyment.

[Jo-Sta07]

Deal is done, wire out on Monday.

[Neptune7]

FWIW, here's a Lusso racing an M8 - it put up a good fight...

[GhostOne_322]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

Ok so here's my impressions versus the M5:

Look: interior is way better, worlds apart. Far more special and better quality. Exterior I prefer but M8 is better looking than Lusso. It's definitely more attractive in person.

Comfort: beats the M5. Ride quality is better. Had all the amenities of the M5 with heated/AC seats, Apple car play. Etc.

Performance: not as quick as the M5. The Lusso needs revs. Feels slow below 5k RPM. Above 5k is pulls very hard. Similar pull to M5. Where the M5 loves 3000-6500 RPM the Lusso loves 5000-8000 RPM. Just takes a different style. Car is very planted. Transmission is excellent and it's nice to pull bit paddles on a daily. Steering feel is better than M5 but M5 has no feel. Brakes are OK but at least they didn't squeak!

Sound: Lusso is quiet below 5k RPM but sounds very good, albeit a bit muted above that. M5 sounds ok but I'm not a big fan of the loud burbles in sport plus mode. Lusso wins here.

Overall: 8.9/10. Great daily. I'll see if I can get the deal done this week. Absolutely so special to be inside a Ferrari again. It's not like any other car.

[Jo-Sta07]

Very excited to have a Ferrari back in the stable. Content with the purchase 100%. I will say that in 2 years I'll add (assuming things continue to go well) a used F8. I love the F8, can't get over how we'll Ferrari nailed it. I don't think the 458 will ever not be epic though. 570 hp, 9000 RPM NA, perfect (arguably) styling.

On the topic of passing on Mclaren. I'm not 100% sure Mclaren makes it through this recession as an independent brand. Depending on how deep and long this economic collapse is. They need new leadership at the top. The QC has to improve. The new sports series is going to be a hybrid, further increasing complexity. It will be a nightmare for owners if they don't get it together.