[BwoodBMW]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

Hasn't depreciated yet, I'll never buy a brand new Ferrari unless they gave me an allocation of something truly rare. At this point if I move the M5 here's what I'm thinking:

Ferrari GTC4
BMW M8C
Bentley CGT V8
(Welcome to entertain other suggestions)


This is my daily, I need some what of back seats, mostly to fit girls or children, and a decent boot. I don't care about gas mileage. I'd say my priorities are A. Performance, B. Intrigue, C. Beauty, D. Quality, E., Practicality. Z efficiency.

Neighbor just picked up his new Bentley V8 (vert). Back seats not awful at all for the little ones. Interior is stunning, maybe best in the business right now. Performance is good enough and it makes some nice noises. They are pricey though and bound to be depreciation monsters... not sure you are seeing the new body come up used yet and I wouldn't get the older gen car.

Its a car that feels special though which I like. Different kind of "connection" than what you'd get in a v12 F car but regardless I personally would enjoy the ownership experience. Especially if I had a 458 to scratch that itch when needed

M8GC is nice but the other cars are much more "special" to me.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

Limey I think that's beautiful. It might be the best looking BMW on sale currently. How do you like it? It's not too similar to M5 I fear?

Glad you like it--I think I might be in love with it.

The tech is familiar in a good way. It turns in better and feels more nimble in general--odd really given that it actually weighs more so I've put that down to the Carbon Core. Performance-wise, I've got it virtually matching my 2020 M5 Comp now (0-60 in sub 2.6s and 1/4 mile in sub 10.5s) so it also has the performance chops to practice what it preaches so to speak. It's also extremely rare and, given the number available in the country, it will probably remain that way for quite some time.

The interior is a significant step-up in both design and the surface materials. The seats are very comfortable but inferior to the M5 in articulation and no massage available. It has a few features that were notably absent from the M5, e.g. Remote Start.

Totally subjectively: the car makes me feel very, very special whenever I drive it. Given that I'm not remotely special , that's quite the achievement!

[Used2be]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Aston Martin DBS Superleggera
Performance: B+
Intrigue: A-
Beauty: A
Quality: B-
Practicality: B

I drove by some version of the DB11 the other day and it was gorgeous. A V12 is available, the rear seats are probably questionable, but boy it's pretty!

[Jo-Sta07]

You've tuned it to achieve those numbers? How'd it perform stock?

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

You've tuned it to achieve those numbers? How'd it perform stock?

Yes. It has both the Racechip GTS Black and a Burger JB4 simultaneously installed inline with one another. I turn one off from my phone and turn the other one on (I volunteered to put the two side-by-side to attain useful comparison data).

Stock was 2.97 - 3.0xs to 60. 1/4 in 10.9s - low 11s.

I'm traction bound right now since the car came with Pirellis and getting new tires right now isn't a priority or a risk I'm prepared to take. Still, pretty good with sub-optimal shoes.

[Quickburn7]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

Hasn't depreciated yet, I'll never buy a brand new Ferrari unless they gave me an allocation of something truly rare. At this point if I move the M5 here's what I'm thinking:

Ferrari GTC4
BMW M8C
Bentley CGT V8
(Welcome to entertain other suggestions)


This is my daily, I need some what of back seats, mostly to fit girls or children, and a decent boot. I don't care about gas mileage. I'd say my priorities are A. Performance, B. Intrigue, C. Beauty, D. Quality, E., Practicality. Z efficiency.

I would get the 992 Turbo S or the FF. Other cars on your list just don't do it for me if your willing to spend that kind of money. I would only get the Turbo S over the FF if you care about electronics, Nav system, apple car play integration, and sound system. The turbo s will be bullet proof, the FF might have a few gremlins here and there but it's worth it for how special it is every single time you get in and drive

[Jo-Sta07]

Here's another question I've been considering, given this global calamity and the market for luxury goods tanking, I'm going to lowball. What's appropriate though, if they want $200k, offer $150k, expecting to meet in middle? Offering $180k and say that's it?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

Here's another question I've been considering, given this global calamity and the market for luxury goods tanking, I'm going to lowball. What's appropriate though, if they want $200k, offer $150k, expecting to meet in middle? Offering $180k and say that's it?

Alot of my dealer clients are holding on to inventory-their flooring companies have given them 90 days interest free. I dont see them taking a "digger" just to move a car that right now that is not costing them anything to floor. Now if the dealer owns the car outright he/she might be inclined to move it at their internal cost or lower if cash flow is tight/ Im assuming you are buying from an Independent dealer or is this an F dealer? No matter what you are dealing with a soft car in general so offer away:

There is not alot of relevant auction data but these are older sales on the 2018 model:

8/8/19 $200,000* 2,419 4.8 8GT/A Silver Regular West Coast Riverside
5/9/19 $195,000* 4,600 4.1 12G/A Gray Lease Midwest Ohio
Showing 2 of 2

Edit: also Auctions are closed so almost all the dealers out there dont have a fluid source of used cars unless they take cars in on trade. What they have on the lot is more valuable for the right deal. Again, situation to situation of course/

[Jo-Sta07]

This is from a dealer that only sells used cars. I'm assuming they own outright.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

This is from a dealer that only sells used cars. I'm assuming they own outright.

Most of those dealers do NOT own these cars... it would not be prudent in any economic climate to roll such high dollar levels of cars with flooring rates so low (long before the COVID).

Care to PM the dealer so I can do more research on the exact car? Or share here?

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by limeypride

Glad you like it--I think I might be in love with it.

The tech is familiar in a good way. It turns in better and feels more nimble in general--odd really given that it actually weighs more so I've put that down to the Carbon Core. Performance-wise, I've got it virtually matching my 2020 M5 Comp now (0-60 in sub 2.6s and 1/4 mile in sub 10.5s) so it also has the performance chops to practice what it preaches so to speak. It's also extremely rare and, given the number available in the country, it will probably remain that way for quite some time.

The interior is a significant step-up in both design and the surface materials. The seats are very comfortable but inferior to the M5 in articulation and no massage available. It has a few features that were notably absent from the M5, e.g. Remote Start.

Totally subjectively: the car makes me feel very, very special whenever I drive it. Given that I'm not remotely special , that's quite the achievement!

Limey, if you get a custom steering wheel, it will make you feel even more special. I’m sure Ben can send you a nice flat bottom CF steering wheel. That generic BMW steering wheel is just mot sexy enough.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Limey, if you get a custom steering wheel, it will make you feel even more special. I’m sure Ben can send you a nice flat bottom CF steering wheel. That generic BMW steering wheel is just mot sexy enough.

Interesting idea. Thanks.

Note that I switch in and out of cars every 12-18 months so my appetite for super-expensive not-portable mods is less than it otherwise would be.

// says the guy who spent $800 on a ceramic controller that he gave away 3 months later.

r33_RGSport Ben, what do you suggest?

I believe I saw a custom wheel in an X3M, can't recall who that was, though.

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by limeypride

Interesting idea. Thanks.

Note that I switch in and out of cars every 12-18 months so my appetite for super-expensive not-portable mods is less than it otherwise would be.

// says the guy who spent $800 on a ceramic controller that he gave away 3 months later.

r33_RGSport Ben, what do you suggest?

I believe I saw a custom wheel in an X3M, can't recall who that was, though.

Do you still want me to suggest things to you?
You were the one who got me hooked into Ceramic controls, lol.

Joke aside, it doesn't need to be CF steering wheel.
It can be Alcantara/Leather mix if you are not big on the CF steering wheel. That way you can retain the heated components too.

I did put on CF Steering wheel for picture sake. I personally would do Thicker/Grooved grip though.

But again, I am like you, but a little better. I don't keep all of my new cars. At least 2 years.

[mhh]

I've own both M5C and GTC4 Lusso V12. The BMW feels quicker in city driving. I prefer the Ferrari for longer trips. It's more of a luxury car than a sports car though with a quiet interior and softer ride than the BMW. The Lusso feels more of an event to drive - probably the V12 and lower seating position, and maybe the badge. Using the M settings, the M5C will drive away from the Lusso on a challenging road. It's a sportier car.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Do you still want me to suggest things to you?
You were the one who got me hooked into Ceramic controls, lol.

Joke aside, it doesn't need to be CF steering wheel.
It can be Alcantara/Leather mix if you are not big on the CF steering wheel. That way you can retain the heated components too.

I did put on CF Steering wheel for picture sake. I personally would do Thicker/Grooved grip though.

But again, I am like you, but a little better. I don't keep all of my new cars. At least 2 years.

Yeah. Let's take a look.


Requirements:
- must retain heating
- must retain all existing buttons
- flat bottom
- not CF
- alcantara inserts w/ leather
- matching black finish
- slightly chunkier
- no other branding

// let's move this to email Ben or a new thread so as to not pollute this one

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by limeypride

Yeah. Let's take a look.


Requirements:
- must retain heating
- must retain all existing buttons
- flat bottom
- not CF
- alcantara inserts w/ leather
- matching black finish
- slightly chunkier
- no other branding

// let's move this to email Ben or a new thread so as to not pollute this one

Got it.

[Jo-Sta07]

Originally Posted by mhh

I've own both M5C and GTC4 Lusso V12. The BMW feels quicker in city driving. I prefer the Ferrari for longer trips. It's more of a luxury car than a sports car though with a quiet interior and softer ride than the BMW. The Lusso feels more of an event to drive - probably the V12 and lower seating position, and maybe the badge. Using the M settings, the M5C will drive away from the Lusso on a challenging road. It's a sportier car.

I'm good with a little bit less performance in my daily to feel connected and special while driving. The M5 is crazy quick but I don't feel one with the car all of the time.

[Neptune7]

The M8GC or AMG GT 63S are good options. Enough seating for kids and super car beaters to boot. The Panamera Wagon Turbo S E Hybrid with Truffle Fries (may have missed a few more words in the name) is also a good one.

[Jo-Sta07]

Has anyone owned or driven the Urus enough to provide experience?

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

Hasn't depreciated yet, I'll never buy a brand new Ferrari unless they gave me an allocation of something truly rare. At this point if I move the M5 here's what I'm thinking:

Ferrari GTC4
BMW M8C
Bentley CGT V8
(Welcome to entertain other suggestions)


This is my daily, I need some what of back seats, mostly to fit girls or children, and a decent boot. I don't care about gas mileage. I'd say my priorities are A. Performance, B. Intrigue, C. Beauty, D. Quality, E., Practicality. Z efficiency.

I'd take the Ferrari or Bentley, although I'd get the CGT in convertible form since its a great GT car, but that's just my personal opinion. M8C is nice but likely too close to your current M5.

[mwlmd]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

Has anyone owned or driven the Urus enough to provide experience?

I was just going to suggest Lambo Urus. Still pretty rare and used ones available.

Comfortable and sound fantastic. I might consider one for my next DD.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07

Has anyone owned or driven the Urus enough to provide experience?

Not me--- but you wont get a Urus at 2017 Lusso pricing... yet.