If you had $15,000 for mods.......

AlanL · 06-24-2007, 11:36 AM

The edge I was talking about is the type of skill level possessed by the test drivers who take these cars out on the Nurburgring for the BMW engineers.

A lifetime of driving on the Autobahn will not give you that level of expertise.

Vroomer · 06-24-2007, 11:38 AM

Roadster S Suspension
Limited Slip
Roadster S Brakes
Twin Turbo
Re-map

Dammmittt · 06-24-2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanL

The edge I was talking about is the type of skill level possessed by the test drivers who take these cars out on the Nurburgring for the BMW engineers.

A lifetime of driving on the Autobahn will not give you that level of expertise.

True...track time is always a plus

enfield · 06-24-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dammmittt

True...track time is always a plus

I think one needs more than track time. I know that my driving has improved after BMW's Advanced Driving Courses and my time at Bridgestone Racing.... I could have driven around the track without instruction as I did on day 1. On day 1 I was doibng laps in 1:20 and on day 3 at 1:05 - I was one of the slower ones. The really fast ones went from 1:20 down to 58 seconds.... (before anyone asks - no I do not know how long the track at Bridgestone Racing was)

Dammmittt · 06-24-2007, 05:38 PM

I think that's where the autobahn experience comes in. I'm so used to going fast. 80 mph is painfully slow and I'm still doing 10-20 over. I think more americans (canadians include

) tend to be timid when they hit the track since they're not used to the speeds they hit. I've hit expansion joints around turns on the autobahn and got all 4 wheels off the ground at over 120 mph. I think most people would freak out and panick and end up in a ditch on fire.

ward · 06-25-2007, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dammmittt

I think that's where the autobahn experience comes in. I'm so used to going fast. 80 mph is painfully slow and I'm still doing 10-20 over. I think more americans (canadians include

) tend to be timid when they hit the track since they're not used to the speeds they hit. I've hit expansion joints around turns on the autobahn and got all 4 wheels off the ground at over 120 mph. I think most people would freak out and panick and end up in a ditch on fire.

autobahn experience

how much skill does it take to drive 150mph in a straight line

you did not have all 4 wheels in the air

Dammmittt · 06-25-2007, 07:22 AM

uhhh...yes I did...and it wasn't in a straight line.

enfield · 06-25-2007, 09:52 PM

The point is that Instruction works better than just driving on a track or the autobahn....

ward · 06-25-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dammmittt

uhhh...yes I did...and it wasn't in a straight line.

this story gets more believable all the time

you're killin me dammit

sixspeed · 06-26-2007, 06:04 AM

From an M perspective.... probably:

PSS9 or KW3 coilovers
AP Racing brake conversion
Full exhaust system (w/ headers)
AC Schnitzer Rear Diffuser

If there was enough cash left - ESS Supercharger (in development for //M)

I have the CSL wheels already, but if this were from standard, they'd go up there in that list as one of the first options - along with the PS2 rubber.

Caddyshk · 06-26-2007, 06:50 AM

Trade Z4MC - Used GT2

Dammmittt · 06-26-2007, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ward

this story gets more believable all the time

you're killin me dammit

I don't need you to believe me. It's not like it was flying through the air for seconds. But you hit a bump fast enough an the wheels come off. I don't think it's that hard to believe.

Rick Hunter · 06-26-2007, 08:49 AM

Enough bickering, boyz.

sixspeed · 06-26-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Caddyshk

Trade Z4MC - Used GT2

I'm sure there's more than $15k between a used Z4MC and used GT2?? (well there is in the UK!)

ovrkll · 06-26-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dammmittt

I don't need you to believe me. It's not like it was flying through the air for seconds. But you hit a bump fast enough an the wheels come off. I don't think it's that hard to believe.

I believe you, has happened to me on the Auotstradale (Italian version of the Autobahn). The roads have a joint for expansion, the same as American highways that use concrete slabs for the road surface. Going around a curve at 100+ you can feel the car hop as it hits each bump and if you are not used to it, it can be fairly exciting in a bad way.

I had my MINI S up to 135 (electronically limited) several times on the Autostradale and it is something you get used to. The European drivers respect vehicles in the left lane and will stay out of the way of faster vehicles. Flash to Pass actually means something over there, instead of the Lemmings on the freeway here in the States.

Cheers!

ovrkll · 06-26-2007, 06:17 PM

Never thought I would see the day that I was sticking up for Dammmitt

And now back to the original thread.....

Ski · 06-26-2007, 07:57 PM

I like cheese..

Dammmittt · 06-26-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ovrkll

Never thought I would see the day that I was sticking up for Dammmitt

And now back to the original thread.....

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