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I feel Mercedes-AMG is on the next level in quality and sound and that’s what I was looking for .. |
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02-06-2019, 09:58 AM | #48 | |
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So before you call people fanboys - who own and have driven the car you are talking about - come with some objective facts. |
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02-07-2019, 12:54 AM | #49 | |
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But let's discuss the fun factor after you driven the Fiesta ST and then you come back and tell me I was wrong. And what cars I've driven or not, nothing you know about so don't give me that excuse. Talking about subjective opinions, just like this Autobild comparison the final verdict is a subjective result and not a universal fact that the M5 is the best car. I hope you agree. Last edited by Just_me; 02-07-2019 at 01:09 AM.. |
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02-07-2019, 09:47 AM | #50 | |
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I have driven the ST and I believe you are wrong. That is because it is a (my) subjective point of view - and quite frankly a ridiculous comparison. Autobild uses objective and subjective criteria. The objective criteria states that the M5 is a better performing car - which I enjoy - so objectively it is the better performing car - and subjectively - I enjoy being in and owning the better performing car. |
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02-07-2019, 02:17 PM | #51 | |
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and me posting pictures of me in a M5 isn't going to proove anything, you know how easy its to fake photos and how easy its to claim I've driven this and that. Its like me asking you to post pictures of Fiesta ST MK8. Won't prove anything and kinda childish too. All I want to say to you is that I prefer smaller nimble cars, not 2000 kg luxury saloons, if it's speed I want I have my motorcycle for that. But to each his own. Like you said and what I've said here earlier, comparing ST with a M5 is dumb thing, particulary on a BMW board. Deep down I think its the word fanboy that got you upset. Sorry for that if its helps. Anyways, there is no more to say - send me a PM if you like - end of discussion and have a good day! Last edited by Just_me; 02-07-2019 at 02:23 PM.. |
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02-07-2019, 02:41 PM | #53 | |
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02-07-2019, 03:01 PM | #54 |
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And that would be yet another subjective opinion. Thank-you for proving that point, yet again - and hopefully for the last time.
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02-07-2019, 03:10 PM | #55 | |
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This discussion makes me feel 12 again. Seriously , calm down, this is leading nowhere. |
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02-07-2019, 03:27 PM | #56 | |
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And I am very calm. |
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02-08-2019, 01:22 PM | #58 |
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SA just did a mini test on the GT63, they seemed be very impressed by it. It is now the fastest sedan they have tested on the Hockenheim GP track (though it's on cup tire and they have not ran M5C on this track yet). SA said they have asked Porsche to supply the Turbo S Hybrid E for a comparison test but Porsche declined, probably knowing it will lose since the E63 S already beat it on the shorter course.
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02-11-2019, 05:00 PM | #59 |
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The GT63S is not going to sell well- already dealers are offering them "only" at sticker. Its going to be Panamera Turbo S 2.0 to me; look at this msrp for a car that is kinda like a fish out of water in its segment:
MODEL: 2019 GT63C4S $159,000 ($201770 MSRP w/options) 644 designo Brillant Blue Magno $3,950 701 AMG Black Exclusive Nappa Leather/DINAMICA w/ Yellow Stitching $2,560 Options 488 ENERGIZING Comfort Package: ENERGIZING Comfort, Air Balance $550 P72 ENERGIZING Comfort P21 AIR BALANCE Package 773 773 AMG Exterior Carbon Fiber Package I: Carbon Fiber Front Splitter $3,700 773 AMG Exterior Carbon Fiber 996 996 Parking Assistance Package: Surround View Camera $500 501 Surround View Camera 997 997 Driver Assistance Package: Active Distance Assist DISTRONIC®, $2,250 546 Speed Limit Assist 266 DISTRONIC PLUS with Steering Assist 233 Active Distance Assist DISTRONIC 23P Driver Assistance Package K35 Steering code K34 Route Based Speed Action K33 Extended Restart by STOP and GO Traffic B07 AMG Carbon Ceramic Braking System $8,950 B14 AMG Carbon Fiber Engine Cover $1,500 H73 AMG Carbon Fiber $2,850 L6G AMG Performance Steering Wheel in Full DINAMICA RWC 21" AMG Forged Twin 5-Spoke Wheels, Black $3,200 R03 Extreme Performance Sport Tires $600 U80 115V AC Power Outlet $115 U88 AMG Drive Unit Steering Wheel Buttons 14U Smartphone Integration 16P Factory Code - Showroom Units 26U Remote Start 409 Multicontour Functionality for AMG Performance Seats $700 463 Head-Up Display with AMG Specific Content $990 555 AMG Performance Seats $2,500 581 3-Zone Climate Control $760 61U designo Black DINAMICA Headliner 811 Burmester® High-End 3D-Surround Sound System $4,550 873 Heated Front Seats 883 Soft-Close Doors $550 GAS GAS GUZZLER $1,000 SUBTOTAL $199,775 DESTINATION &DELIVERY $995 TOTAL $201,770
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Haha, I was going to post exactly that, or ask is that the configuration you're getting Vic?
Is Aston making a new Rapide? That would mean there are 3 ultra premium sports sedan options which could be interesting. Other than that there is nothing else out there.
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I swear, I am not..... yet.
In all honesty while money is relative and we are all so blessed to have the opportunity to own these amazing machines; I just dont see the value add in getting this car for this price point (for me) Im getting on in my years LOL and dont need another sedan that is not better in performance areas than the F90. And when so, its negligible at best. I dont track the car so that rules any possible advantage if any as stated. For this price I would just get a fantastic 2019 Turbo S in Chalk and write all over the board!!!!!!!! (I can get one even cheaper right now- with super low miles).
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Lets say here stateside, I get triple net of invoice, which I have in the past based on my factory connects; that would be 12% off the car. Even at 24k off on this exact car, I personally dont think its worth the presence for me. I know all about the sound having had the M177/M178 on 3 cars now (still with the AMG GTS). I just dont see it. Maybe others here might though??
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