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My best driving car in my opinion is a Ferrari Pista .. the rest are all awesome but that one stands out as the benchmark. I would like to also compare it to my GTC4Lusso which is amazing but just does not have the same storage or back space as the M5CS so its hard to do an apples to apples. So yeah dollar for dollars I still think the M5CS is very special and somehow they magically tuned this ZF to feel and act like a DCT which is amazing and hard to do. BMW Ceramics are also incredible, great feel and stopping power just like the M2CS I have.. their braking system is incredible.
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They tried too hard to make it different than the M5C. It's a fail in my book. Maybe I just don't get it…but it's just ugly….green and gold exterior….black and red interior….just awful….
Less refined, slightly faster, less equipped, slightly better steering, less practical, less comfortable ….but it's still a rather big sedan. Don't get it. It is less of a daily driver but will never be a track star. So they are charging more to give you a car that does less of its natural strength as a big sedan and more of what it will never be…a track ready weapon. Lastly, it's journalistic negligence that no one has done a head to head with a M5C. You know why….it's because it is that close. BMW doesn't want that. |
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Personally, this is the perfect blend of my outgoing M3CS and a new M5. For me, it checks every box. Honestly, I wish there weren't so many levels of "M5". I wish that this version was the M5 and customer who found it "to harsh", "missing creature comforts" or "insert other critique here" could be told to just go buy a M550 if those things are so important to them. Instead, BMW has given customers a choice. No need to trash a car just because it doesn't fit your predetermined idea of the ideal M5 for everyone.
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I don't blame you for feeling this way - I mean, it's not like bmw hasn't pulled the wool over our eyes before but this car is something else. Performance wise. |
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https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/06/28/b...-hops-on-dyno/ They took both an M5 CS and a regular M5 to the dyno to see how they stack up against each other. The end result is actually surprising, considering the recent trends. The BMW M5 made almost 610 PS at the crank, with 490 of them reaching the wheels and 785 Nm of torque. That’s a bit more power than advertised (600 PS) but it’s quite curious how little of that apparently made it to the wheels. Then there was the M5 CS, which reportedly made 618.5 PS and 814 Nm of torque, with 510 PS reaching the wheels. Yet, once again, surprising, as the claimed power figure is higher than the result recorded here. It’s quite odd to see that little power transferred to the wheels as well as the M5 CS performing under the claims made by the company. The guys also put the M5 CS on a scale to see how it stacks up to the claims that it is lighter than the standard M5 and they found the CS version to go all the way up to 1,831 kilos, which is right around the official number of 1,825. (299 LBS!!)
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I dont know why people keep referring to the CS as "hardcore" All they did was remove 200lbs, remove center console, and threw in4 bucket seats. The car is going to ride similarly to a comp car.. These are not track machines. You want a track machine sit in a 600LT. While at a light the entire car is shaking because it weighs nothing. That is "hardcore" |
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"No better than a competition" "Stupid marketing trick" "Way overpriced and overhyped" Just my recollection. All my senses told me it wasn't any of the above. Mine has been stuck in quality check for a while. Can't wait. Shawn |
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"Uncomfortable seats" "Not enough extra power/less weight to matter" "Missing quality of life options" "Gold trim looks bad" The list goes on and on, but most of the people who bash on the car have one thing in common. The are all primarily F90 drivers.
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