[mfarrzhp]

Originally Posted by GNALUZU

I think one of the reasons why the M3CS flopped was because of the lack of lease program at the beginning. Once the cars started to sit on the lot BMWFS finally noticed and did something about it.

Again, with the M5CS, there is no lease program from BMWFS. Hopefully the car doesn't suffer the same fate.

There was leasing on the M2 CS, but I was quoted something like $1600 per month. So I don't think anyone leased their M2 CS.

I think the best performing sedan in the the market, M5 CS, will sell out its limited run.

A bigger issue with the M3/4 was likely the lack of a manual transmission, when it was an option on the Comp models. All M5s are auto, so you aren't giving up something major to the enthusiasts in the base models.

[werdn]

Anyone know the upgrades for the M5CS compared to the M5C outside of the M8 dampers and, carbon hood, and lower ride height? I wonder if it is possible to retrofit one in the future if you cant get your hands on one.

[Dark-Knight]

Originally Posted by werdn

Anyone know the upgrades for the M5CS compared to the M5C outside of the M8 dampers and, carbon hood, and lower ride height? I wonder if it is possible to retrofit one in the future if you cant get your hands on one.

cost prohibitive and difficult Id stay in the hunt for a CS peoples situations change, its sounds like only a few units but in reality, we may like it but others dont

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by werdn

Anyone know the upgrades for the M5CS compared to the M5C outside of the M8 dampers and, carbon hood, and lower ride height? I wonder if it is possible to retrofit one in the future if you cant get your hands on one.

Seats are gonna be expensive. I've seen some crazy numbers tossed around for those. Then, the rear seats are probably going to be even harder to find than the fronts.

I can't imagine that it would make any financial sense to try and turn a M5C into a CS.

[GerryM5]

Gosh, I wish I was 40 again. I'd buy the M5CS in a heartbeat. That said at 80 my M2C brings me joy everyday.

Brilliant M5CS🔥🔥🔥. Well done BMW M👍👍👍

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by crypto

Everyone is getting all spun up on BMW's mindset and what it all means but there's probably one major thing at play:

The buzz and marketing around this car...

The total sales for all of these cars will not crack $100M for BMW. Their total revenue last year was like 117B. This will not even account for one tenth of a percent of their revenue. I don't think they care if it's in most people's price ranges or about selling a lot of them. They got to do something limited, fun, not lose money (probably), and got a F-ton of a buzz on the car and for the brand. Mission accomplished.

Would be fun for the final curtain of this chassis platform, that they make an limited M5 CSL. They have only made one, the E60 M5 CSL.

[phoenixbmwlife]

Originally Posted by Salespunk

A lot of people passed over the M5C because of the deterioration in ride quality with the harder bushings. Have heard the CS is much better in that regard, but the weight savings in the seats and CCB brakes add cost and also limit usability for a large portion of the buying population.

High level, I think BMW knows their buyers pretty well and has good stratification in the lineup.

I think that suspension problem was solved in the M5 Competition Lci. From what I have heard and read from those that have the Lci, it's much better feel than the pre Lci if that makes sense.

I for one do not find the Pre Lci too harsh. I never felt what some people felt. But I also never drove the base pre Lci M5, or the Lci M5 Competition either to compare.

[brava09]

Originally Posted by phoenixbmwlife

I think that suspension problem was solved in the M5 Competition Lci. From what I have heard and read from those that have the Lci, it's much better feel than the pre Lci if that makes sense.

I for one do not find the Pre Lci too harsh. I never felt what some people felt. But I also never drove the base pre Lci M5, or the Lci M5 Competition either to compare.

There is no problem with the pre LCI Competition suspension, I drive it only in sport plus and if anything it does not feel stiff enough

[Demon Barber]

Originally Posted by mfarrzhp

The M3/4 CS models were a bit of a flop as far as sales go. Many got them at deep discounts.

The M2 CS did well, but a strong auto market helped.

The M5 CS will be a hit, also helped by the current market.

I do think the CS line is a limited market for enthusiasts that don't care about a missing armrest, or full 5 passenger seating. Plus they are crazy expensive, although justified IMO.

I think the average Corporate guy with money is okay with the regular M cars.

Love this M5.

Agreed. I love this car, but already have a base M5 that's just so much more comfortable for daily driving. I'd love to have one if money were no object.

[phoenixbmwlife]

Originally Posted by brava09

There is no problem with the pre LCI Competition suspension, I drive it only in sport plus and if anything it does not feel stiff enough

Thanks for agreeing with me.

[DAL33S]

I've had my M5CS for few months now and it's now ran in.

Really enjoy the car but being Euro car the noise is killed 😞

[LSM]

Interesting they use the least sporty heaviest panamera in this comparison - Turbo S E Hybrid

Great showing for M5 not surprised. Wish they would have compared to the 2021 Panamera Turbo S that's gas powered and set the ring record

[Neptune7]

Originally Posted by LSM

Interesting they use the least sporty heaviest panamera in this comparison - Turbo S E Hybrid

Great showing for M5 not surprised. Wish they would have compared to the 2021 Panamera Turbo S that's gas powered and set the ring record

They used the Panamera with the most power. There is a comparison with the gas powered one which the M5 CS won fairly easily too. No surprises given the weight difference.

[LSM]

Originally Posted by Neptune7

They used the Panamera with the most power. There is a comparison with the gas powered one which the M5 CS won fairly easily too. No surprises given the weight difference.

Most power yes but an odd choice for that comparison. No surprise the BMW wins just would have liked to see the much better/more comparable gas powered Pano Turbo S in their comparison

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...turbo-s-drive/

[Neptune7]

Originally Posted by LSM

Most power yes but an odd choice for that comparison. No surprise the BMW wins just would have liked to see the much better/more comparable gas powered Pano Turbo S in their comparison

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...turbo-s-drive/

Both cars are probably quite rare so hard to find them both for a review… maybe we'll see something from Carwow in the months ahead.

[DavidXJ]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

Less weight and a little suspension and performance tuning, done right, can go a long way. The CS seems to be absolutely outstanding. Wish I had one but I am not yet at the point where I pay $140k for cars.

Indeed. At a certain point, you have to wonder who on earth these extravagantly staged comparisons are for. (Ultra privileged track fanatics, presumably and most obviously.) Which must go some way to explaining how little the fine gradations separating the CS vs standard M must surely matter to real-world drivers. Unless one is exerting these weapons to their redline limits around a circuit every weekend, there's no way you'd otherwise get close to detecting the palpable differences in performance that would distinguish such outlandishly priced, if beautifully engineered, models.

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

M5 CS looks like a total home run for BMW. Seems like it's a completely different car from the Competition.

How limited? Why so heavily promote a car that they don't intend to sell. Looks amazing here! Wow!

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by FCX5

How limited? Why so heavily promote a car that they don't intend to sell. Looks amazing here! Wow!

Definitely wish they had more for sale. The best version of the F90 M5 at the very end of the produce cycle, that too just a handful of units.

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Definitely wish they had more for sale. The best version of the F90 M5 at the very end of the produce cycle, that too just a handful of units.

Seems like a bad decision to me. BMW has some amazing products right now. The M5CS is bonafide supercar territory in every way. It is also one of my favorite current exterior designs.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by GerryM5

Gosh, I wish I was 40 again. I'd buy the M5CS in a heartbeat. That said at 80 my M2C brings me joy everyday.

Brilliant M5CS🔥🔥🔥. Well done BMW M👍👍👍

So going off your timeline, you'll be ready to be "older and gentlemanly" and get the M5CS when you're 100?

I hope I'm as cool as you to be driving a M2CS at age 60, let alone at age 80!!!

Wishing for you to enjoy your car(s) in good health.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by FCX5

How limited? Why so heavily promote a car that they don't intend to sell. Looks amazing here! Wow!

thats the same question i'd like to know.. can't seem to find that answer.

[535i MSport]

Having sat in one, I have to say that the rear seats are a strange choice. As Matt said, they limit space albeit may look cool.

The bronze highlights look out of place and I suspect some owners will wrap or paint them.

I think the M3 - even with its grille - would do everything that the M5 CS could do.