[TheRealOrosie]

Originally Posted by 48Laws

No i don’t. And I’ve never played in the NFL but i know the game very well.

Playing and knowing aren't exactly the same, now are they?

[48Laws]

Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

Playing and knowing aren't exactly the same now, are they?

One must have a basic understanding of the rules before they can first play. It’s a top down experience. Like car ownership. I’m wise enough to know that many parade their opinions as facts. Even using the term, “better”, is conjecture.

[elitex]

Originally Posted by 48Laws

No i donÂ’t. And IÂ’ve never played in the NFL but i know the game very well.

Knowing the NFL and playing in the NFL is not the same. Just saying.

[elitex]

Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

Playing and knowing aren't exactly the same, now are they?

Lol. I just said the same thing.

[48Laws]

Originally Posted by elitex

Knowing the NFL and playing in the NFL is not the same. Just saying.

But if you know the game, like Belichick, you don’t have to be playing to know wtf you’re talking about. You won’t find too many people who can be objective when they’re currently driving a car and comparing how it’s “better” to another. A non—owner can be far more critical and not allow their experience to make sweeping generalizations. I can be an observer and still come to a better conclusion than a “player”. Comparing navigations from two opinions. Lol. Or imaginary “track days” is classic internet.

[elitex]

Originally Posted by 48Laws

But if you know the game, like Belichick, you don’t have to be playing to know wtf you’re talking about. You won’t find too many people who can be objective when they’re currently driving a car and comparing how it’s “better” to another. A non—owner can be far more critical and not allow their experience to make sweeping generalizations. I can be an observer and still come to a better conclusion than a “player”. Comparing navigations from two opinions. Lol. Or imaginary “track days” is classic internet.

So now you're comparing yourself to Belichick?

[TheRealOrosie]

Originally Posted by 48Laws

But if you know the game, like Belichick, you don’t have to be playing to know wtf you’re talking about. You won’t find too many people who can be objective when they’re currently driving a car and comparing how it’s “better” to another. A non—owner can be far more critical and not allow their experience to make sweeping generalizations. I can be an observer and still come to a better conclusion than a “player”. Comparing navigations from two opinions. Lol. Or imaginary “track days” is classic internet.

So what are you saying...that you are the Bill Belichick of automotive knowledge?

[elitex]

Originally Posted by Hill Country F90

So what are you saying...that you are the Bill Belichick of automotive knowledge?

Bahaha!!!!!!!

[48Laws]

Originally Posted by elitex

So now you're comparing yourself to Belichick?

Some people struggle with anologies. My point is, you don’t have to own a car to know the difference between facts and conjecture. You don’t have to play the game to know the rules. Compare these two vehicles on a Tesla forum and you’ll see a shift in opinions. There’s a reason why independent companies such as JD Assoc. commission their surveys. Imagine if we asked the manufacturer how satisfied customers were with their vehicles.

[elitex]

Originally Posted by 48Laws

Some people struggle with anologies. My point is, you donÂÂ’t have to own a car to know the difference between facts and conjecture. You donÂÂ’t have to play the game to know the rules. Compare these two vehicles on a Tesla forum and youÂÂ’ll see a shift in opinions. ThereÂÂ’s a reason why independent companies such as JD Assoc. commission their surveys. Imagine if we asked the manufacturer how satisfied customers were with their vehicles.

like I said, we have to give credit to Tesla for bringing electric car technology this far and pushing other manufacturers to follow suit.

With that said, you are going unusually out of your way to defend Tesla on a bmw forum. Offcourse we prefer Bmws on a bmw forum. Shocker!

struggle with analogies? Not so, It's like comparing yourself to Jesus just because you donated to a charity.

[josec70]

Turn the page ..... this thread has runs its course.

[48Laws]

Originally Posted by elitex

like I said, we have to give credit to Tesla for bringing electric car technology this far and pushing other manufacturers to follow suit.

With that said, you are going unusually out of your way to defend Tesla on a bmw forum. Offcourse we prefer Bmws on a bmw forum. Shocker!

struggle with analogies? Not so, It's like comparing yourself to Jesus just because you donated to a charity.

“Unusually out of my way?” That implies I’m supposed to say things that favor your position We should be able to respect well-rooted explanations regardless of what forum we’re on. Are you here to win or get information?

[3s-a-charm]

Originally Posted by Almaretto

No complaints? Completely drank the Kool-Aid?

Yup, totally! No complaints. Being a "car guy" and a "tech lover" Tesla has been the most satisfying vehicle(s) to own ever. Still love BMW but find myself yearning for an older vintage/classic BMW now just for the odd time I want to feel that mechanical connection to a vehicle. Can't say much more without sounding like another brainwashed fanboy (which I probably am guilty of becoming).

[jc05e46m3]

Originally Posted by farns2345

I don't understand how anyone who truly enjoys driving including the sounds of an engine and the interaction involved w switching gears whether manual or paddles can ever say a Tesla is better than any M car, AMG or RS model. Doesn't make any sense to me. Making cars that are more environmentally friendly I totally get, but when shopping for a drivers car, a fully electric car is safely at the very bottom of my list.

100% Agree.