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      07-14-2020, 01:14 PM   #23
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Spent about 2000 miles with both V1G2 and R7 detectors wired up simultaneously (yea, I know this can cause some interference but wanted to see if I could observe true head to head differences). Also another 1000 on each independently.

V1G2 consistently alerts Ka earlier than the R7 by 3-5 seconds. V1G2 falses to gesture control laser with obnoxious frequency to the point I disabled laser. R7 has yet to false alert laser, but agree with posters above that laser detection is just a novelty unless you have a jammer.

Arrows seem slightly more accurate with better persistence on the V1G2, but not significant enough to matter.

Had several false Ka alerts with the V1G2 where the R7 was quiet.

Integration with JBV1 app on the V1G2 is kind of cool, but for me is not a huge selling point.

V1G2 is a much smaller profile.

Ultimately I think I’ll return the V1G2, which is really disheartening as I’ve owned the first gen V1 for about 15 years. If the R7 had a slimmer profile and a Bluetooth app then it would no contest.
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I hope you keep your Gen 2! My buddy has a F30 340i and has had his for almost a month now and he has had 0 issues. He said maybe 1 laser false. This is why I think it may be a unit issue. I did a lot of diagnosis to pinpoint if it was my car or the unit. Unit went off outside on a table and inside in the living room. lol
Just picked up my 2021 M5 Comp today. After following this forum and having dealer install my V1 gen2 was curious to see what issues I had. The laser would keep going off as described I assume from gesture control. Turned gesture control off but problem continued. Turned off rear laser on Valentine 1 gen 2 and no problems since. Not sure if it matters, but my radar unit is at the top of the windshield just to the right of the rear view mirror. Unit working fine now, just need to test it with the cruise control.
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      10-17-2020, 12:15 AM   #25
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I hope you keep your Gen 2! My buddy has a F30 340i and has had his for almost a month now and he has had 0 issues. He said maybe 1 laser false. This is why I think it may be a unit issue. I did a lot of diagnosis to pinpoint if it was my car or the unit. Unit went off outside on a table and inside in the living room. lol
Just picked up my 2021 M5 Comp today. After following this forum and having dealer install my V1 gen2 was curious to see what issues I had. The laser would keep going off as described I assume from gesture control. Turned gesture control off but problem continued. Turned off rear laser on Valentine 1 gen 2 and no problems since. Not sure if it matters, but my radar unit is at the top of the windshield just to the right of the rear view mirror. Unit working fine now, just need to test it with the cruise control.
I would not recommend turning off any laser on the unit just in case. I ended up having to cover the gesture control camera with a small piece of tape. Even with the gesture control off it still uses laser. You can see the laser illuminated on the sensor if you view it through your phone camera. I covered mine up and have never had an issue since. I'd rather have the safety of the radar detector than gesture control
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I hope you keep your Gen 2! My buddy has a F30 340i and has had his for almost a month now and he has had 0 issues. He said maybe 1 laser false. This is why I think it may be a unit issue. I did a lot of diagnosis to pinpoint if it was my car or the unit. Unit went off outside on a table and inside in the living room. lol
Just picked up my 2021 M5 Comp today. After following this forum and having dealer install my V1 gen2 was curious to see what issues I had. The laser would keep going off as described I assume from gesture control. Turned gesture control off but problem continued. Turned off rear laser on Valentine 1 gen 2 and no problems since. Not sure if it matters, but my radar unit is at the top of the windshield just to the right of the rear view mirror. Unit working fine now, just need to test it with the cruise control.
I would not recommend turning off any laser on the unit just in case. I ended up having to cover the gesture control camera with a small piece of tape. Even with the gesture control off it still uses laser. You can see the laser illuminated on the sensor if you view it through your phone camera. I covered mine up and have never had an issue since. I'd rather have the safety of the radar detector than gesture control
To each their own. I would turn off rear laser detection if you are getting false alerts from gesture control.

Reason being is if it's rear laser, the only way you'll pick up scatter is if a car behind you or yourself is getting hit, at which point you've either already passed the threat or you've been nailed. No in between a when it comes to laser unless you have a jammer.
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R7 gives no falses.....I love my R7.

I was a huge Valentine 1 fan, too. I had one in my car from 2004 up until December. However, I could not deal with the false alarms anymore and it's ridiculous to have to rig together some electrical tape to cover a sensor on a $120k car (from a supposedly top-notch $500 radar).

Was not impressed at all by the V1 version 2......R7 all day every day over the V1.
Have several of the Valentine V1 version 2. Very simple to turn off the laser in programming mode, which eliminates issue with gesture control. Unit otherwise works great for radar detection. As has been mentioned laser jammers work well, but laser detector pretty useless. My previous use of Valentine RD in other cars was a bit of a pain because reflective sunlight often sets off the laser warning, no problem with that now that I disabled laser.
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R7 gives no falses.....I love my R7.

I was a huge Valentine 1 fan, too. I had one in my car from 2004 up until December. However, I could not deal with the false alarms anymore and it's ridiculous to have to rig together some electrical tape to cover a sensor on a $120k car (from a supposedly top-notch $500 radar).

Was not impressed at all by the V1 version 2......R7 all day every day over the V1.
Have several of the Valentine V1 version 2. Very simple to turn off the laser in programming mode, which eliminates issue with gesture control. Unit otherwise works great for radar detection. As has been mentioned laser jammers work well, but laser detector pretty useless. My previous use of Valentine RD in other cars was a bit of a pain because reflective sunlight often sets off the laser warning, no problem with that now that I disabled laser.
I just covered the gesture control with electric tape. As I don't use gesture control at all. I understand laser detection may be useless but it has saved me few times and valentine is the only detector which actually alerts laser.
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R7 gives no falses.....I love my R7.

I was a huge Valentine 1 fan, too. I had one in my car from 2004 up until December. However, I could not deal with the false alarms anymore and it's ridiculous to have to rig together some electrical tape to cover a sensor on a $120k car (from a supposedly top-notch $500 radar).

Was not impressed at all by the V1 version 2......R7 all day every day over the V1.
Have several of the Valentine V1 version 2. Very simple to turn off the laser in programming mode, which eliminates issue with gesture control. Unit otherwise works great for radar detection. As has been mentioned laser jammers work well, but laser detector pretty useless. My previous use of Valentine RD in other cars was a bit of a pain because reflective sunlight often sets off the laser warning, no problem with that now that I disabled laser.
I just covered the gesture control with electric tape. As I don't use venture control at all. I understand laser detection may be useless but it has saved me few times and valentine is the only detector which actually alerts laser.
Yeah my R7 and Valentine before also has saved me from laser. The people saying to turn this off are clueless. Sure, if you are driving on an empty highway and he nails you from a few feet away then you probably are toast. However, those waves bounce around....if you are driving in normal traffic it will catch it off cars ahead of you and alert you sometimes.
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I’m using a V1 Gen2 and I’m not having this issue with the rear facing sensor. Could it be where it’s positioned? My V1 is placed low and close to the dash behind the iDrive screen nearer the windshield.

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I’m using a V1 Gen2 and I’m not having this issue with the rear facing sensor. Could it be where it’s positioned? My V1 is placed low and close to the dash behind the infotainment screen nearer the windshield.
Possibly that could be it but ideally it should be mounted as high as possible. Thx
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Why not just install front and rear laser jammers on the car from ALP and use black tape on the V1 rear sensor?
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A little late to the party, but purchased the V1G2 and guess how I found this thread? LOL. I'm having the exact same issue. When the V1G2 is mounted to the windshield under the rear view mirror (a logical place for most people), the rear laser alert goes off non-stop. Unusable. I tried playing with the placement of the V1G2 and when it was up near the visor on the passenger side, there were no false rear laser alerts. However, that would require a power cable running from the 12V cig lighter up to the passenger visor (haven't looked into permanent solutions yet). I haven't learned how to program the V1G2 yet to disable the laser, but I might try that, although I would rather they all just work they way they are supposed to.
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