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      05-23-2007, 08:35 AM   #1
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Which dealership has best labor rates?

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Which dealership in the DC area has the best labor rates for things like oil changes and such?

Has anyone had a dealership program their E9x after getting the BMW OEM Alarm installed?

Which dealerships are friendlier for doing programming and aftermarket work?

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Oil changes are free first 4 years...


Or you can do it yourself, very simple..

and I wouldn't bring my car into dealership for any aftermarket parts...more reason for them to void your warranty...

I do all the installation myself...
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Yup. I will do most of my own work myself as well.
My last Audi had 185k miles on it, I changed the oil myself every 4k miles.

When I hit 1200 miles, I plan on doing an oil change and transmission fluid change. I might have a dealership do it for the transmission fluid change. Just trying to see which dealership will screw me over the least.

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Yup. I will do most of my own work myself as well.
My last Audi had 185k miles on it, I changed the oil myself every 4k miles.

When I hit 1200 miles, I plan on doing an oil change and transmission fluid change. I might have a dealership do it for the transmission fluid change. Just trying to see which dealership will screw me over the least.

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hey bro,

Just curious why would you want to change the oil (engine and transmission) at this early stage? I don't see any benefits of doing so.
In fact, synthetic oil should last 10k. For transmission, if you have a stick, it's a very low maintenance item--no need to flush or change the transmission fluild. The only reason you might want to change to a thinner oil is to have a better "feel" during shifting. For AT, I think you change the oil every 50k miles? This is at least what I was told from the mechanics that I know...someone correct me if I am wrong...
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I just feel that with a brand new engine and brand new tranny, there will be some metals that may need to groove into each other. Gears will meet for the first time, pistons and cylinder walls will meet for the first time.
I may just be paranoid but I think when these metals match each other, they may shave a few microscopic paticles for a better fit. I would feel better about flushing out these possible metal particles and what not out and start from brand new. Some people say you should do this and some people say why bother?

I tend to drive my car harder than the average driver. My last car, an 2001 Audi S4, in Nogaro Blue had license plates S4SPEED. I enjoy spirited, but controlled driving. I also might take my 335 out to a road race course like Summit Point or VIR.

For my work, I drive between 30k - 50k miles a year. I just sold my '01 S4 in Feb and it had 185k miles on it. I changed my oil every 4k miles and performed regular maintenance and the engine held up very well. I did have to replace my turbos at 120k miles but that was because I was chipped and modified.

So,
Is it necessary to change the oil and tranny fluid at 1200 miles? --Don't know.
Will it hurt? --No.
Will it cost money? --A little bit.
Will it make me feel better? --YES.

I am in no way a mechanical engineer or a mechanic. So please take this information for what its worth.
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I just hit 3k miles and need to do an oil change...anyone want to DIY with me...anyone have some ramps we could borrow?? I have all the sockets and such, just need the ramps....I wanna do this soon...
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No ramps here.
I usually jack up my car and put jack stands to help keep the car up. At least on my previous car.

I don't have my Bimmer yet so I can't provide much more input than that.
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No ramps here.
I usually jack up my car and put jack stands to help keep the car up. At least on my previous car.

I don't have my Bimmer yet so I can't provide much more input than that.

Anyone have Rhino Ramps, or a good low profile lift with a BMW extension pad?
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I just hit 3k miles and need to do an oil change...anyone want to DIY with me...anyone have some ramps we could borrow?? I have all the sockets and such, just need the ramps....I wanna do this soon...
just use the curbside!

... btw I think I saw a Passport flyer that does oil chnge for $79.00, coz I know all together oil and filter cost about $50 at the dealership. See if Sterling can match it.
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Anyone have Rhino Ramps, or a good low profile lift with a BMW extension pad?
I have ramps. Not sure if they work on your car.
They don't work on mine because of the front lip.
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Hey,
Which dealership in the DC area has the best labor rates for things like oil changes and such?
Tischer in Silver Spring is about $109/hour

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Has anyone had a dealership program their E9x after getting the BMW OEM Alarm installed?
Tischer did my alarm activation. they charged for an hour.
They took like 30 minutes. I tried but could not make them just charge me the 1/2 hour.
Still, they did not bark when i told them I installed it and just needed the activation.

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Which dealerships are friendlier for doing programming and aftermarket work?

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They seem very relaxed and not giving resistance when making such requests.
I also scheduled a software update. After reading on how some dealers do not want to do it or want to charge, I expected some resistance.
They were very cool and just scheduled me for June 4.

So far, I'm very happy with them.
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just use the curbside!

... btw I think I saw a Passport flyer that does oil chnge for $79.00, coz I know all together oil and filter cost about $50 at the dealership. See if Sterling can match it.
I tried to use that flier at Passport and my SA told me it does not apply to
E9X cars (I saw the flier on Passport's internet site, but could not read the fine print). I just got a print version of the flier and the fine print states that clearly. My post-break-in oil change at Passport cost $109, about the going rate.
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Is it necessary to change the oil and tranny fluid at 1200 miles? --Don't know.
Will it hurt? --No.
Will it cost money? --A little bit.
Will it make me feel better? --YES.
I think that's the correct analysis. It won't hurt; it just costs money. If it makes you feel better, go for it. I did.
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Tischer in Silver Spring is about $109/hour



Tischer did my alarm activation. they charged for an hour.
They took like 30 minutes. I tried but could not make them just charge me the 1/2 hour.
Still, they did not bark when i told them I installed it and just needed the activation.



They seem very relaxed and not giving resistance when making such requests.
I also scheduled a software update. After reading on how some dealers do not want to do it or want to charge, I expected some resistance.
They were very cool and just scheduled me for June 4.

So far, I'm very happy with them.
Thank you very much for the info FrankoQ.
That is what I was looking for.
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yeah when you buy the car they jsut tell you "free maintenance" they forget to metion it's going to be from 12k - 15k miles before you get the "free maintenance" when i bought the car i though I would be saving $$ b/c of the "free maintenance" or else i would of bought a geo metro!!!
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I just hit 3k miles and need to do an oil change...anyone want to DIY with me...anyone have some ramps we could borrow?? I have all the sockets and such, just need the ramps....I wanna do this soon...
I have been using my homemade ramps made out of 2x12" for many years now. No problems. My e36 m3, 4-runner, Odyssey cleared no problem. The 2 small black wind deflectors touches a bit on the 335i.
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Tischer in Silver Spring is about $109/hour



Tischer did my alarm activation. they charged for an hour.
They took like 30 minutes. I tried but could not make them just charge me the 1/2 hour.
Still, they did not bark when i told them I installed it and just needed the activation.



They seem very relaxed and not giving resistance when making such requests.
I also scheduled a software update. After reading on how some dealers do not want to do it or want to charge, I expected some resistance.
They were very cool and just scheduled me for June 4.

So far, I'm very happy with them.
Any particular SA you recommed at Tischer. I live in Bmore, and I was thinking about who to go to in the future.
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Any particular SA you recommed at Tischer. I live in Bmore, and I was thinking about who to go to in the future.
Steve Orcutt helped me and he was very nice.
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Any particular SA you recommed at Tischer. I live in Bmore, and I was thinking about who to go to in the future.

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