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Bms stage 1 or JB4?
Stock car with bmc drop-ins and x-pipe . Which piggyback will put down the most power ?
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The JB4 makes a lot more power, but the Stage1 is half the price and much easier to install. The Stage1 is just like RaceChip but cheaper so if you're happy with the potential to run 10.6 in the 1/4 mile go for it. If you want more features, logging, and the potential for low 10 second in the 1/4 then is has to be the JB4.
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Go with JB4 - it gives you a lot of options which you decide which ones to take advantage of and which ones not to, as well as does all your logging. You will learn a lot more about your car that way and will become an interaction as well.
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I have it on my car and will be tinkering with race gas over the coming weeks. I need the JB4 to properly take advantage of that. |
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If you are interested in RaceChip, I am here to answer your questions.
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Excuse my obvious ignorance. While I design/engineer OS and platform security software for a living and the overlaps with today's cars are surprisingly large, when it strays into the mechanical, I'm a kindergartener. . Last edited by limeypride; 04-08-2019 at 10:28 PM.. |
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Spent 6 years in the F10 M5 world where I saw this reality firsthand as many people I know personally blew engines and had BMW NA deny coverage. Like you well said, this is not the BMW of old, and nothing is undetectable just depends how deep you want to dig. Price to play the game.
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My gut reaction is this: detecting that 'something' pulled counters/stats from the OBD II port won't serve as sufficient proof of tampering to deny a warranty claim which is the real crux of the matter here. If BMW detected an unknown 'write' operation, then I think there's reason to pursue on their part but, at the end of the day, these are warranty claim cases and there's a point where the investigative effort costs more than the claim itself. Anyhoo, I'm running with a hypothetical 'what if' at this point--one I've pondered for a while. I know I can detect firmware changes and there's virtually nothing that can be done to stop me (short of destroying the evidence along with its subject). I also know it's harder for me to detect 'man-in-the-middle' interference on unsecured channels beyond mere inference. What I don't know is how far down these paths any given vehicle manufacturer already is or is willing to go. I think my takeaway thus far is this and as was cited earlier, "you pay to play--there's a risk. Be prepared to pay its price." On that happy note, back to Star Trek for me! |
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PM me if you want to chat some more; it's not my intent to bash piggys or tunes on these forums so I'll leave it here.
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