Video: Evolve Stage 1 Tune w/dyno

TheRealBob · 04-10-2019, 02:29 PM

Aronis · 04-10-2019, 03:12 PM

NICE...............

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Mike

soooma · 04-10-2019, 04:16 PM

Just curious, anyone tried it yet? Not very far from RC or JB4 Piggies, so why bother? Besides the speed limiter

Thanks

limeypride · 04-10-2019, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by soooma

Just curious, anyone tried it yet? Not very far from RC or JB4 Piggies, so why bother? Besides the speed limiter

Thanks

The removal of the speed limiters and dialed up pops and bangs are the main advantage. But, yeah, there's little reason beyond that to risk detection when both the RC and the JB4 are yielding similar results.

I appreciate that he focuses on the relative power difference as opposed to harping on about the absolute numbers that vary from dyno to dyno.

I'm booked in on April 19th for a couple of hours on a hub dyno so I'll post my numbers once I have them.

Stealth7 · 04-10-2019, 06:22 PM

Well, there is English and there is English! It is actually bit to understand all the words of the video even though the host is well-spoken; I had to play the video several times.

A few observations/questions:

1. So he is saying that the stock M5 makes 625rwhp? This is a bit hard to believe given modern production tolerances, OEM SAE Certified HP, etc. He is essentially saying that the car makes more rearwheel horsepower stock than its stated crank horsepower. From many different perspectives this makes no sense.

2. Did he say that they have not yet verified elimination of the top speed limiter on the computer?

3. Can this to be uninstalled and reinstalled by simply looking up your laptop?

4. If your car has been run with this tune and you uninstall it, will a dealer still be able to tell that the car has been tuned in the past? For example, if a drivetrain problem occurred on the car while the tune was in the car, would the hardware and software on the car accessible to dealer show that the issue occurred while the tune was installed even though the tune is no longer installed?

That about covers it for now!

devondragon · 04-10-2019, 06:29 PM

1) there are MANY dyno runs showing WHP in that range. Mostly DynoJets, but its not at all out of the range of what's being seen.

limeypride · 04-10-2019, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth7

Well, there is English and there is English! It is actually bit to understand all the words of the video even though the host is well-spoken; I had to play the video several times.

Oh, I had no issue understanding him at all... but then I was born about 30 miles away from his company which I suppose might help.

Quote:

A few observations/questions:

1. So he is saying that the stock M5 makes 625rwhp? This is a bit hard to believe given modern production tolerances, OEM SAE Certified HP, etc. He is essentially saying that the car makes more rearwheel horsepower stock than its stated crank horsepower. From many different perspectives this makes no sense.

No, I don't believe so. I'm fairly certain he's computing crank numbers; reducing the information to lowest common denominator to make it comprehensible to the masses.

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2. Did he say that they have not yet verified elimination of the top speed limiter on the computer?

Evolve already removed two top-speed limiters but they hit another around 190mph that he's referring to.

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3. Can this to be uninstalled and reinstalled by simply looking up your laptop?

Yes, but that doesn't equate to "the tune is not detectable."

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4. If your car has been run with this tune and you uninstall it, will a dealer still be able to tell that the car has been tuned in the past? For example, if a drivetrain problem occurred on the car while the tune was in the car, would the hardware and software on the car accessible to dealer show that the issue occurred while the tune was installed even though the tune is no longer installed?

If they want to, they can. This is an absolute reality.

limeypride · 04-10-2019, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by devondragon

1) there are MANY dyno runs showing WHP in that range. Mostly DynoJets, but its not at all out of the range of what's being seen.

The legend on the plot he shows reads "Flywheel torque" and "Flywheel power".

Stealth7 · 04-11-2019, 01:08 AM

Understood on all counts!

Simon H · 04-11-2019, 01:48 AM

Hi Imran,
Will this tune be ok with the dreaded OPF cars ?. This looks very strong for a standard car ?. Would this overwrite the BMW tune on Competition cars, and remove the more pronounced burbles and grumbles that car has, or is there still plenty of that going on ?, thankyou, regards, Simon.

Imran@Evolve · 04-11-2019, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by limeypride

Oh, I had no issue understanding him at all... but then I was born about 30 miles away from his company which I suppose might help.

No, I don't believe so. I'm fairly certain he's computing crank numbers; reducing the information to lowest common denominator to make it comprehensible to the masses.

Evolve already removed two top-speed limiters but they hit another around 190mph that he's referring to.

Yes, but that doesn't equate to "the tune is not detectable."

If they want to, they can. This is an absolute reality.

You saved me a lot of typing.

I can move to the US and Americanise my English if that helps.

limeypride · 04-11-2019, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Quote:

Originally Posted by limeypride

Oh, I had no issue understanding him at all... but then I was born about 30 miles away from his company which I suppose might help.

No, I don't believe so. I'm fairly certain he's computing crank numbers; reducing the information to lowest common denominator to make it comprehensible to the masses.

Evolve already removed two top-speed limiters but they hit another around 190mph that he's referring to.

Yes, but that doesn't equate to "the tune is not detectable."

If they want to, they can. This is an absolute reality.

You saved me a lot of typing.

I can move to the US and Americanise my English if that helps.

LOL

No need, I'll just translate for you.

soooma · 04-11-2019, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by limeypride

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Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Quote:

Originally Posted by limeypride

Oh, I had no issue understanding him at all... but then I was born about 30 miles away from his company which I suppose might help.

No, I don't believe so. I'm fairly certain he's computing crank numbers; reducing the information to lowest common denominator to make it comprehensible to the masses.

Evolve already removed two top-speed limiters but they hit another around 190mph that he's referring to.

Yes, but that doesn't equate to "the tune is not detectable."

If they want to, they can. This is an absolute reality.

You saved me a lot of typing.

I can move to the US and Americanise my English if that helps.

LOL

No need, I'll just translate for you.

Unfortunately Imran,
That comment wasn't about your English which is actually great and very eloquent! But it was rather about what you and me know all too well!

limeypride · 04-11-2019, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by soooma

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Originally Posted by limeypride

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Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

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Originally Posted by limeypride

Oh, I had no issue understanding him at all... but then I was born about 30 miles away from his company which I suppose might help.

No, I don't believe so. I'm fairly certain he's computing crank numbers; reducing the information to lowest common denominator to make it comprehensible to the masses.

Evolve already removed two top-speed limiters but they hit another around 190mph that he's referring to.

Yes, but that doesn't equate to "the tune is not detectable."

If they want to, they can. This is an absolute reality.

You saved me a lot of typing.

I can move to the US and Americanise my English if that helps.

LOL

No need, I'll just translate for you.

Unfortunately Imran,
That comment wasn't about your English which is actually great and very eloquent! But it was rather about what you and me know all too well!

Oooh, do elaborate!

soooma · 04-11-2019, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by limeypride

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Originally Posted by soooma

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Originally Posted by limeypride

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Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Quote:

Originally Posted by limeypride

Oh, I had no issue understanding him at all... but then I was born about 30 miles away from his company which I suppose might help.

No, I don't believe so. I'm fairly certain he's computing crank numbers; reducing the information to lowest common denominator to make it comprehensible to the masses.

Evolve already removed two top-speed limiters but they hit another around 190mph that he's referring to.

Yes, but that doesn't equate to "the tune is not detectable."

If they want to, they can. This is an absolute reality.

You saved me a lot of typing.

I can move to the US and Americanise my English if that helps.

LOL

No need, I'll just translate for you.

Unfortunately Imran,
That comment wasn't about your English which is actually great and very eloquent! But it was rather about what you and me know all too well!

Oooh, do elaborate!

There are ears and there are ears

It's beneath me to spell it out

Imran@Evolve · 04-12-2019, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soooma

Unfortunately Imran,
That comment wasn't about your English which is actually great and very eloquent! But it was rather about what you and me know all too well!

I know

Simon H · 04-12-2019, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon H

Hi Imran,
Will this tune be ok with the dreaded OPF cars ?. This looks very strong for a standard car ?. Would this overwrite the BMW tune on Competition cars, and remove the more pronounced burbles and grumbles that car has, or is there still plenty of that going on ?, thankyou, regards, Simon.

I never seem to have much luck with replies on this forum ???

Imran@Evolve · 04-15-2019, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon H

Hi Imran,
Will this tune be ok with the dreaded OPF cars ?. This looks very strong for a standard car ?. Would this overwrite the BMW tune on Competition cars, and remove the more pronounced burbles and grumbles that car has, or is there still plenty of that going on ?, thankyou, regards, Simon.

Yes the tune is ok for OPF cars. Our car makes between 610-630 depending on the conditions.

We would use the stock CP software as the base so burbles would remain the same.

Simon H · 04-15-2019, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Yes the tune is ok for OPF cars. Our car makes between 610-630 depending on the conditions.

We would use the stock CP software as the base so burbles would remain the same.

Thanks for the reply Imran,
Do you mean 710 - 730, or am i being a bit thick, and not reading it correctly ?.

Imran@Evolve · 04-16-2019, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon H

Thanks for the reply Imran,
Do you mean 710 - 730, or am i being a bit thick, and not reading it correctly ?.

610-630 in stock form.

Simon H · 04-16-2019, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

610-630 in stock form.

Doh,
Sorry buddy, i thought you were talking about after the tune, forgive me.

limeypride · 04-16-2019, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon H

Doh,
Sorry buddy, i thought you were talking about after the tune, forgive me.

This is why nobody answers your questions, Simon! Jeez.

Just kidding, I couldn't resist.

PS: how's Stuart?

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Simon H Major 876 Rep 1,319 Posts Drives: M5 Competition Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Hi Imran, Will this tune be ok with the dreaded OPF cars ?. This looks very strong for a standard car ?. Would this overwrite the BMW tune on Competition cars, and remove the more pronounced burbles and grumbles that car has, or is there still plenty of that going on ?, thankyou, regards, Simon.
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