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I dare BMW to use G code when they use the same fucking engine. The least they could do is be honest about it.
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lol. because it's not much different than the f10 to use the g code.
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Love the blue color. Can't wait to see in Hamburg. It must be presented during Hamburg show, right?
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Why put an extra gear(most probably a cruising 8th gear) when it can't even do 330? PHEV next gen it is.
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Having a First Edition is straight up copying Mercedes at this point; a "first edition" with matte paint... where's the originality?
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Mercedes first edition pioneer? Funniest thing I will probably hear today. It's a popular marketing ploy used by endless manufacturers.
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Like Lotus for example. +1.5 metric tons of car for BMW, half a ton less for Lotus... |
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Merc may not have pioneered it, but they're the first MFG I think of when I hear those words; especially in this segment.
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That's quite a statement in this particular time...Mercedes is doing things that neither BMW or Audi are even close to doing. I'm no Mercedes fan boy, I actually just bought my first Mercedes a couple months ago after owning many different BMWs and a few Audi's as well.
Each car has its own pros and cons but overall, I believe Mercedes is doing way better in every segment than BMW or Audi. I actually think BMW is doing the worst given they don't have anything to compete with the R8 or the AMG GTS/GTC/GTR. I mean WTF are they doing over there? I8 is laughable in every way (to me at least, and I know many others feel the same way). Compare even the lower end models, while beauty is in the eye of the beholder I don't think you can even compare the interior of a base 328 and a base C300. The C300's overall look and even the fit and finish is superb, one of the nicest interiors in that price point. The 3 series is so plain and simple. Jump up to C63 and M3/4 and same thing. The C63 with all the extra leather, carbon fiber etc looks amazing. Have you seen the seats? No comparison again in my books. Anyways, obviously there will be those who agree and those who disagree which is fine but to say that BMW shits on those 2 brands in any shape, way or form is a joke!
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Is there truly a "need" for an AWD ///M xDrive system? My answer will always be irrevocably NO. Will it be a great thing to have though? You betcha! I never had a problem with proper snow tires on the F10 M5 in light to medium snow covered roads. Even with my M5 lowered on springs, plowing through the snow was never a problem. The new ///M xDrive System will add that certain video game cheat code feeling when encountering that Nissan GTR at a stop light however. And I think that's what people will appreciate most about it, its superior performance on the street. M Division has traded purity for speed, but for super sedans like the M5, its ok, because this kind of car has never been about lap times. Lap times belong to the KING M3 and M4, and now M2.
But dammit you guys at ///M Division, at least give us a new engine with new characteristics to enjoy while we experience the pleasure of beating that Nissan GTR off the line. I really believe that the new ZF8 Speed won't be that bad, and most people will enjoy it or forgive M for choosing it over the DCT. While other people who have owned SMG's and DCT's in the past or have been spoiled rotten by Porsche PDK's, will continue to lament the days past and curse ///M for making people spend more money on a slower shifting transmission. The F90 M5 has turned into a 4-Door Nissan GTR. A lot of the car will probably feel disconnected just like the GTR does, but will be fast as hell. I've always heard GTR owners describe their cars as like driving a robot or a car that does everything for you. If the E39 M5 was a sentient car, I'm sure it would be like "WTF" are you guys at ///M Division doing? Oh yes, and just wait until everybody sees what the a fully loaded F90 M5 is going to cost. I wouldn't be surprised if a fully loaded example exceeds $150k now or with a future LCI Competition Package version. The most important thing that remains to be seen with the new F90 is the true and actual curb weight. Automotive journalists have been all over the place citing everything from 4,100lbs to 4,400lbs. If the F90 M5 is going to truly be lighter then that will be the only edge it will have over the Mercedes E63S, Panamera Turbo, and future Audi RS6/RS7. Oh and a Carbon Fiber roof on the F90. I'll still be sorely disappointed if the door panels on the F90 aren't at least made out of aluminum.
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Lol! Yes!
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This happens EVERYTIME a new ///M5 comes out
Everyone hates it - then they love it once they get it. In my opinion - the 8 speed auto tranny is the most disappointing aspect of this car. The manual, SMG, DCT, etc. put the M5 in a class by itself - the slush box things. It better be good.
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So while I agree that the C class, E class and S class all look very similar to each other except they differ in size. BMW & Audi for that matter is doing the same dang thing and have been for years.
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