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      10-17-2021, 05:10 PM   #309
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I ended up going with euro lights because my 13 year old liked the welcome lights. 🤷*♂️

I got them installed thanks to euro and Joe. Seriously thanks for taking the time for the write up euro and thanks Joe for the help on wiring and doing so much research that I could read through. Now to get them coded so everything works as intended.

I only broke two black rivets too which is a new record for me with interior panels.

My car is a 2017 540i USA car but it had 5 wires installed. It's a good thing too because the terminals I ordered came in a plastic bag and UPS crushed them in transit lol.
Nice job! So you were one of the lucky people with the 5th wire already there. Did the coloring of the 5th wire match up with what I sent you?

Looks great and happy to help. Hopefully Vic hooks you up soon. I still drool over them when I walk up from behind. Such a huge impact.
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I ended up going with euro lights because my 13 year old liked the welcome lights. 🤷*♂️

I got them installed thanks to euro and Joe. Seriously thanks for taking the time for the write up euro and thanks Joe for the help on wiring and doing so much research that I could read through. Now to get them coded so everything works as intended.

I only broke two black rivets too which is a new record for me with interior panels.

My car is a 2017 540i USA car but it had 5 wires installed. It's a good thing too because the terminals I ordered came in a plastic bag and UPS crushed them in transit lol.
So if you have five wires you don't need to add jumper ?
The 5th wire is supposed to be run from the BDC per BMW euro retrofit install guide. The jump method is a workaround that works just a as well.
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I ended up going with euro lights because my 13 year old liked the welcome lights. 🤷*♂️

I got them installed thanks to euro and Joe. Seriously thanks for taking the time for the write up euro and thanks Joe for the help on wiring and doing so much research that I could read through. Now to get them coded so everything works as intended.

I only broke two black rivets too which is a new record for me with interior panels.

My car is a 2017 540i USA car but it had 5 wires installed. It's a good thing too because the terminals I ordered came in a plastic bag and UPS crushed them in transit lol.
So if you have five wires you don't need to add jumper ?
The 5th wire is supposed to be run from the BDC per BMW euro retrofit install guide. The jump method is a workaround that works just a as well.
The jump method is doable for me. I rather not run wires up front. That appears to be a bit more difficult and rather not mess with a big harness.
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Nice job! So you were one of the lucky people with the 5th wire already there. Did the coloring of the 5th wire match up with what I sent you?

Looks great and happy to help. Hopefully Vic hooks you up soon. I still drool over them when I walk up from behind. Such a huge impact.
It appears so! The wiring did line up perfectly for the right side, but the left side I moved #5 to #4 location and both sides worked the same. Here is the break down of what works and what doesn't that I sent Vic.

"The inner brake lights do not come on with the outer brake lights, but the signals work in both directions both inner and outer, and the outer brake lights work. When I turn on the parking lights or the headlights the inner and outer come in in parking light mode. The reverse lights work correctly. Hazards work properly. There is a warning on the dash for the right and left brake light."

Edit - Just heard back from Vic, and I have to run from pin 4 of the outer to pin 1 on the inner still... operation do over tomorrow hahaha!
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Edit - Just heard back from Vic, and I have to run from pin 4 of the outer to pin 1 on the inner still... operation do over tomorrow hahaha!
I apologize if Pin 1 inner to Pin 1 outer is incorrect. I could have sworn Vic told me it was 1 to 1. I actually remember saying to myself, that's easy, I don't have to even write that down. I looked back at our exchange and he told me pin 1 outer.

You are in good hands though, he will get you squared away.
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Howzit guys! Getting things ready for the retrofit and was wondering if anyone here had the part number for the extra bmw wire. I like to use oem as much as possible. I have the part number for the pins already, just need the wire itself.
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Howzit guys! Getting things ready for the retrofit and was wondering if anyone here had the part number for the extra bmw wire. I like to use oem as much as possible. I have the part number for the pins already, just need the wire itself.

61.12.6.946.211 - Cable Gray

You need 12 metres according to the retrofit kit instructions but i’d go for 15 if I were you.
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61.12.6.946.211 - Cable Gray

You need 12 metres according to the retrofit kit instructions but i’d go for 15 if I were you.
This part number...how many meters are included?
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All done and coded thanks to Vic and to Euro and Joe-BMW33 for the write up and help along the way. Vic did the coding tonight and all is well now. So sexy!!!
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All done and coded thanks to Vic and to Euro and Joe-BMW33 for the write up and help along the way. Vic did the coding tonight and all is well now. So sexy!!!
That the euro or na lights
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All done and coded thanks to Vic and to Euro and Joe-BMW33 for the write up and help along the way. Vic did the coding tonight and all is well now. So sexy!!!
Nice, glad it's all squared away. What was the correct jump pin assignments inner to outer?
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These are the euro lights.
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Nice, glad it's all squared away. What was the correct jump pin assignments inner to outer?
There must be a splice from pin 1 on the outer lights and that run to pin 4 of the inner lights. If you have the 5th wire in your inners from the factory, that wire is not used. On my car that was the black/white and black/yellow.
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There must be a splice from pin 1 on the outer lights and that run to pin 4 of the inner lights. If you have the 5th wire in your inners from the factory, that wire is not used. On my car that was the black/white and black/yellow.
Thanks, interesting, I would have assumed that since the correct procedure from the BDC is to pin 1 on the inner, that the jump would also start from pin 1 inner to pin one outer. So it's pin 4 inner to a splice of pin 1 outer. Got it. Here is the wiring from the BDC (after rearrangement) if anyone needs it. I can see why the extra wires sitting there for you with the right colors was confusing. These are for rear fogs I guess, but I do wonder if you could have just moved them over at the BDC as we don't have or use rear fogs. Conceptually, at the BDC, you would move the rear fog light wire from terminal 55 to the terminal you need to run the wire from for the Eruo's, then plug the loose wire in the trunk into pin 1. I think I may be onto something. Maybe someone will try this. Seems like it should work. Then no jump and no running wires, just use the ones there and loose.

EDIT: 5th WIRE FROM BDC DOES GO TO PIN LOCATION 4, NOT 1, SO THE JUMP INSTRUCTIONS ALL MAKE SENSE. APOLOGIES. PIN 4 IS THE LOCATION FOR THE 5th WIRE OR THE JUMP.
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I just talked to Vic and good news. You can definitely move the fog light wire over at the BDC and then use it for pin 1 inner, done!!

My shop ran a new 5th wire from the BDC. I will get back to you all on where on the BDC this comes from. Much easier than running a new wire or jumping. Most US cars have the fog wire sitting there doing nothing. Sure the Euro's have fogs and you can have rear fogs with the Euro lights if you want to utilize this wire for that and get a new switch, but I am guessing most of us could care less and would rather have the ease of installation.
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Great info here on the fog wires. Might have to give that a go.
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More info on the fog lights. The euro switch has an extra provision for rear fog lights. So I'm guessing you just grab one of these and plug in the rear wire and you might pick out.

I'm not gonna lie I want this switch now 😂😂🥰
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If you have the fog light wire available and want to utilize it for the 5th wire on a Euro install on a US car:

At BDC move the following wire

Black/Yellow:
5B [pin 20] ➡️ 3B [pin 50]

Black/White:
5B [pin 12] ➡️ 3B [pin 28]

On the inner connector this wire goes into Pin 4 location which is empty after rearrangement. I thought the 5th wire went to pin location 1 which is also empty. Vic corrected me. I made a few references to pin 1, disregard, it's pin 4.
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You need 12 metres according to the retrofit kit instructions but i’d go for 15 if I were you.

Does anyone know what gauge the wire is? Looks like super thin like 18 or even smaller. I have some stranded wire that I can use but want to make sure it will be ok.
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Does anyone know what gauge the wire is? Looks like super thin like 18 or even smaller. I have some stranded wire that I can use but want to make sure it will be ok.
The installation guide calls for the equivalent of 22AWG wire.
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Does anyone know what gauge the wire is? Looks like super thin like 18 or even smaller. I have some stranded wire that I can use but want to make sure it will be ok.
You can use whatever wire you want as long as the connecters fit on the end. I ordered too little and joined it to some stranded wire I had lying around to get the job done.
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