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      08-08-2018, 07:45 AM   #1
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M5 falls to Porsche and Mercedes

https://rennlist.com/articles/porsch...n-series-tire/

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      08-08-2018, 08:10 AM   #2
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It's also base level is 185k. Way more than M5 or E63
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      08-08-2018, 08:29 AM   #3
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M5 destroys both of them in the 1/4 mile IF you know how to use the M5 Launch Control. It's not easy like a DCT. If you do not, the others will win. You have to build boost at the launch and some rookie mag testers don't have that skill set. Some do like Car and Driver.
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Didn't C&D's instrument test produce 2.8s to 60 for the F90? It may just be me, but even if the M5 driver botched the launch he still probably did it in 3.5 seconds, and it's hard to call that a "dusting".
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That guy can't drive an M5 for toffee.
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No one has been able to achieve stock 10.9@129 C&D times thus far, we have jb4 tunes still running 11s.

It can’t all be about launch control....

Hope it improves...
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No one has been able to achieve stock 10.9@129 C&D times thus far, we have jb4 tunes still running 11s.

It can’t all be about launch control....

Hope it improves...
There is a pure stock 10.9 post on N54 tech. I went 10.86 on MAP 1. It’s all in the Launch and Density Altitude.

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There is a pure stock 10.9 post on N54 tech. I went 10.86 on MAP 1. It’s all in the Launch and Density Altitude.
Most are running low to mid 11s
You are modified and you basically ran a stocktime.
I am sure the mph will be there with the jb4 etc but so far not the ET
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It's also base level is 185k. Way more than M5 or E63
Yes, but the E63 is more or less the same price as the M5 and came in 2nd.

It’s not the first time the m5 lost to the e63, it’s happened several times.
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Personally I don't give a toss if the E63s is faster or not, I will never put my M5 to the test, I just enjoy driving it. ....



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Most are running low to mid 11s
You are modified and you basically ran a stocktime.
I am sure the mph will be there with the jb4 etc but so far not the ET
Define “stock time”. A 10.86 at 4000ft DA is not “stock time”. At 4000da my “stock time” was 11.23

At 2500da another “stock time” was 10.9

Look into the effects of DA.
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There are multiple cars running 11 flat in the f90 M5

Like ONFIRE said you need to use LC its KEY
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Well I did 10.3148752, so I win.
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Here’s a pure stock M5 at 2500da. He knows how to launch. At sea level he would beat the Car and Driver time even though C&D corrects their times to sea level.
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GO TO 3:17 seconds on the video and watch the BMW wheels, both front and back wheels are constantly losing traction. No doubt M5 would be the last if you can't launch it properly.
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Here’s a pure stock M5 at 2500da. He knows how to launch. At sea level he would beat the Car and Driver time even though C&D corrects their times to sea level.
44X has a consistent reaction time, but still needs work. With practice should be able to cut a better light than .5xx
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Here’s a pure stock M5 at 2500da. He knows how to launch. At sea level he would beat the Car and Driver time even though C&D corrects their times to sea level.
Lol, Sure.
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Silly new members, being silly, uh well.
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Lol, Sure.
If you don't believe actual time slips.......

Sorry I wasted my time...

Reality is what you want to believe regardless of the truth.

Believe away.

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Didn't C&D's instrument test produce 2.8s to 60 for the F90? It may just be me, but even if the M5 driver botched the launch he still probably did it in 3.5 seconds, and it's hard to call that a "dusting".
Exactly.

These videos are the epitome of dishonest/incompetent "reviewing." CarWow did the same thing.

In all the other tests the Bimmer sh*ts on the Merc but these two can't launch the thing properly and give ammo due the stupid Merc fanboys.
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Frankly my dear , I don't give a dam..... I walked away from a special order loaded e63s to my M5, and never looked back.
and sorry, the Panamera is still ugly, even with the slight face lifts it went thru in recent years.
I find the M5 to be an all around more fun and versatile 4 wheels missle.
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Lot of BMW Kool-Aid has been consumed out there.

Pretty clear the launch was botched. But not being able to close the gap..gap looks like it widened as the run progressed. That seems like a fail.

Maybe they should do it like 3 times...maybe switch up drivers. I mean really, it can't be true. The M5 is the superior Saloon Car. Right?
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