[BMA89]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

Was anything else at all needed for the install? May order these from Mike this week, just want to make sure I get everything I need. I'll be installing them myself.

Yes it's bolt on so everything is included

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by BMA89

Yes it's bolt on so everything is included

Hmm.. Bolt On does not = nothing else is needed.

Some bolt on's need additional items.

Examples: O2 extenders, clips, gaskets, hangers, etc…

[BMA89]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

Hmm.. Bolt On does not = nothing else is needed.

Some bolt on's need additional items.

Examples: O2 extenders, clips, gaskets, hangers, etc…

Ask mike for clarification but I didn't need anything extra over and above what was provided

[DryBark]

I ordered as well based on your review. Looking forward to it!

[BMA89]

Originally Posted by DryBark

I ordered as well based on your review. Looking forward to it!

Awesome! Let us know how you get on.

I have a start up video but don't know how to post it! lol if anyone is interested I can text it to you.

[dougpaper]

Originally Posted by BMA89

Awesome! Let us know how you get on.

I have a start up video but don't know how to post it! lol if anyone is interested I can text it to you.

Did you install yourself?

[BMA89]

Originally Posted by dougpaper

Did you install yourself?

I did not, however I am told from both mike and my mechanic it's not difficult if you have a lift

[AGS]

Originally Posted by BMA89

To be honest I'm not sure as I dropped it off at my trusted mechanic and then picked it up a few hours later. Didn't ask about the difficulty but I believe if you have access to a lift it's relatively easy as it's OEM fitment I believe.

Mike @ XP-H will likely be able to give more insightful feedback.

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

It's a straightforward install; I doubt it took them longer than 1 hour on the lift to complete it

Originally Posted by BMA89

Yes it's bolt on so everything is included

I was just talking to my installer about these. A couple questions if anyone can answer:

1. From the quoted posts above it sounds like these are a direct swap for the OEM component with no cutting necessary. Just undo the clamp at each end and replace, then repeat on the other side. Correct?

2. Can this be done with the rest of the exhaust system in place? Or do you need to drop the exhaust to have enough clearance to make the swap?

Thanks in advance!

[BMA89]

Originally Posted by AGS

I was just talking to my installer about these. A couple questions if anyone can answer:

1. From the quoted posts above it sounds like these are a direct swap for the OEM component with no cutting necessary. Just undo the clamp at each end and replace, then repeat on the other side. Correct?

2. Can this be done with the rest of the exhaust system in place? Or do you need to drop the exhaust to have enough clearance to make the swap?

Thanks in advance!

Question 1. Correct

Question 2. My mechanic said he did have to drop the exhaust to get the mid pipe out.

I confirmed both questions for you with him as I'm not super technical with this stuff.

Hope that helps!

[AGS]

Originally Posted by BMA89

Question 1. Correct

Question 2. My mechanic said he did have to drop the exhaust to get the mid pipe out.

I confirmed both questions for you with him as I'm not super technical with this stuff.

Hope that helps!

Very helpful, thank you! I was almost starting to think I'd try it myself in the garage, but you're answer to #2 has changed those thoughts back to Plan A - have the installer do it.

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by AGS

I was just talking to my installer about these. A couple questions if anyone can answer:

1. From the quoted posts above it sounds like these are a direct swap for the OEM component with no cutting necessary. Just undo the clamp at each end and replace, then repeat on the other side. Correct?

2. Can this be done with the rest of the exhaust system in place? Or do you need to drop the exhaust to have enough clearance to make the swap?

Thanks in advance!

I have sold and installed many of this secondary cat delete pipe made by Evolution Racewerks or Keller Performance. I don't understand why it is called a midpipe by MAD where it is actually sitting in front of the actual midpipe.

But, anyway, yes, you can install without bringing down the exhaust system, you just need to pull it back as much as possible so you have enough room to take out the stock and put the catless one back on.

Here is the video of Evolution Racewerks on F93 M8.

[Info@mad-us.com]

We have them listed on our site a little differently. Think they are just changing the keywords up from prying eyes.

Either way Thanks for all the positive Comments guys . Glad you are loving your secondary Pipes.


https://mad-us.com/mad-bmw-f90-m5-downpipes-s63r/

[Slugsy01]

Very interesting.

I'm keen if anyone can help me with a couple of questions :

1. Does it affect warranty?
2. I have an Akra exhaust, not the full one, the slip on - any possible issues?
3. I am fitting a Jb4 (yes, taking small risk re warranty), any possible issues?

If any experts can help, I would be grateful. I'm keen to improve sound, especially pops!!! 😊

[Camarejh]

I installed catless downpipes myself with a youtube video. Didnt do MAD as i didnt know about them until now but i wish i did. Anyways took me 9 hours lol. No lift. One floor jack. No special tools. Took so long because i kept taking breaks as i was getting my ass kicked in the dead florida humid ass weather. Alot of tight spaces and was tearing up my hands but got it done. Its doable in your garage.

[NJ_F80ZCP]

Just installed my MAD secondary pipes today in my body shop. Took my tech about 3 hours to complete. Not a terrible install by any means. Just couldn't imagine trying to do it on a garage floor. Alot of awkward angles to twist you hand. The fitment is spot on and well made. It is only a mild increase in noise. Ended up disconnecting the exhaust valves also in the open position. 10/10 as far as a cheap efficient upgrade. Just don't expect life changing noise increase.

[AGS]

Good morning all. I bought a set of the MAD secondary pipes and ran into an issue yesterday when trying to have them installed. I'm working with both MAD and the distributor to remedy, but both are out of stock on the items right know. I'm hoping members may be willing to take 5 or 10 minutes and help me out trying to resolve the installation issue. Please PM me if either you have a set of these that are not yet installed, or have the OEM pipes handy that you removed to install these. Just looking for a couple measurements. Thanks in advance!

[DryBark]

Originally Posted by AGS

Good morning all. I bought a set of the MAD secondary pipes and ran into an issue yesterday when trying to have them installed. I'm working with both MAD and the distributor to remedy, but both are out of stock on the items right know. I'm hoping members may be willing to take 5 or 10 minutes and help me out trying to resolve the installation issue. Please PM me if either you have a set of these that are not yet installed, or have the OEM pipes handy that you removed to install these. Just looking for a couple measurements. Thanks in advance!

I have a set sitting in my garage.

[AGS]

Originally Posted by DryBark

I have a set sitting in my garage.

Thank you. PM sent.

[DryBark]

Originally Posted by AGS

Thank you. PM sent.

Replied. I think you're talking about the inside of the flange, which I've measured below to be around 73mm (don't have caliper on me but I measured inside to inside pictured).

[AGS]

Originally Posted by DryBark

Replied. I think you're talking about the inside of the flange, which I've measured below to be around 73mm (don't have caliper on me but I measured inside to inside pictured).

Yes, that's what I was talking about. The gasket sits in that little lip and there's a similar recess in the flange on the lower end of the primary down pipe. And then a clamp goes around the outside and holds it all together. Per the parts diagram:

#2 is the secondary down pipe
#4 is the gasket
#5 is the clamp the connects the primary and secondary down pipes

[AGS]

Does anyone who's fitted the MAD pipes have their stock take-offs they can do the same measurement on? Thanks in advance for helping out!!

[Info@mad-us.com]

Originally Posted by AGS

Does anyone who's fitted the MAD pipes have their stock take-offs they can do the same measurement on? Thanks in advance for helping out!!

Both flange photos look to be just a little over 7 cm.