Please post your F90 M5 Lease deals

dardeca · 01-18-2019, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth7

$1900-$2000/mo. payments for the M5 or M5C are insane. Should be $1,300--1,500 MAX, including everything. This is not a F488, Porsche Turbo S, etc.

Of course, nothing stops anyone from paying these monthly amounts. So, as long as you are happy ... .

Not really a value added comment here. Show me where you can lease a brand new F488, Turbo S, etc. for $1900/month. I'm not aware of their leases coming close to this amount...but maybe I'm wrong.

Ex_Stig · 01-18-2019, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth7

$1900-$2000/mo. payments for the M5 or M5C are insane. Should be $1,300--1,500 MAX, including everything. This is not a F488, Porsche Turbo S, etc.

Of course, nothing stops anyone from paying these monthly amounts. So, as long as you are happy ... .

Comparing to a 488 payment is a little absurd. That would run you over $4k per month.

dardeca · 01-18-2019, 08:52 PM

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Comparing to a 488 payment is a little absurd. That would run you over $4k per month.

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wassy · 01-19-2019, 10:36 AM

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

salraf · 01-19-2019, 10:37 AM

is it unrealistic to shoot for 10% off msrp before incentives?

Ex_Stig · 01-19-2019, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

Isn't a E63 lease around $2k per month? Can't get closer to a direct M5 competitor than that.

Quickburn7 · 01-19-2019, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

Isn't a E63 lease around $2k per month? Can't get closer to a direct M5 competitor than that.

My 2018 E63s was $1900 a month with 9.5% sales tax, M5 $1700.... 488 spider was $4200 a month so more than double the M5.

wassy · 01-19-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

Isn't a E63 lease around $2k per month? Can't get closer to a direct M5 competitor than that.

Yes it is. The overriding theme here is that lately, on these cars, leases suck!

Ex_Stig · 01-19-2019, 12:15 PM

Yup. That's why I went with a M3 CS this time around. Got $15k off MSRP.

M3PGH · 01-19-2019, 02:05 PM

my E 63 lease w 212, previous gen , was 1220 a month and the car was 112 k
in my opinion a good lease is when monthly payment is 1% of the MSRP give or take some , with only first payment down
so for M5 120 k , lease should be around 1200 may be max 1400

weingarm · 01-19-2019, 03:56 PM

Here is my deal made today - on an ordered base M5 (non-Comp).
As others have said, the wait...…... tortuous.

2019 base M5

MSRP: $118,595
Discount: -$5620
BMWFS lease cash: -$5000
Base cap cost: $107,975
Cash down payment: $1000
Net cap cost: $106,975
Residual Value: 55% (10K miles)
Money Factor: .00188

Monthly Payment: $1483.41
(Plus $5974 cash due at delivery for taxes, acquisition fee, registration/title)

If there is any improvement in the combination of residual value/money factor/BMWFS lease cash/loyalty credits by delivery - I'll get those rates.

Scorpion76 · 01-19-2019, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GNALUZU

Yup. That's why I went with a M3 CS this time around. Got $15k off MSRP.

Congrats! 15k off was including incentives?

Scorpion76 · 01-19-2019, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

That's an awesome deal. Congrats! What are your taxes?

wassy · 01-19-2019, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

That's an awesome deal. Congrats! What are your taxes?

Thanks buddy. They were 6%. Now 7%.

Scorpion76 · 01-19-2019, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

That's an awesome deal. Congrats! What are your taxes?

Thanks buddy. They were 6%. Now 7%.

So is that about $100 a month in taxes?
What was the MSRP on the car?

wassy · 01-19-2019, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

That's an awesome deal. Congrats! What are your taxes?

Thanks buddy. They were 6%. Now 7%.

So is that about $100 a month in taxes?
What was the MSRP on the car?

Base payment is $1145 I believe. Msrp was $117,245 give or take a few bucks.

MWcoupe · 01-19-2019, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

That's an awesome deal. Congrats! What are your taxes?

Thanks buddy. They were 6%. Now 7%.

So is that about $100 a month in taxes?
What was the MSRP on the car?

Base payment is $1145 I believe. Msrp was $117,245 give or take a few bucks.

What's your out of pocket. Great deal

wassy · 01-20-2019, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

That's an awesome deal. Congrats! What are your taxes?

Thanks buddy. They were 6%. Now 7%.

So is that about $100 a month in taxes?
What was the MSRP on the car?

Base payment is $1145 I believe. Msrp was $117,245 give or take a few bucks.

What's your out of pocket. Great deal

$2344

MWcoupe · 01-20-2019, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

That's an awesome deal. Congrats! What are your taxes?

Thanks buddy. They were 6%. Now 7%.

So is that about $100 a month in taxes?
What was the MSRP on the car?

Base payment is $1145 I believe. Msrp was $117,245 give or take a few bucks.

What's your out of pocket. Great deal

$2344

Wow that's a killer deal. See if they are willing to give you an allocation at those numbers. My friend would love to order one.

wassy · 01-20-2019, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wassy

I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).

That's an awesome deal. Congrats! What are your taxes?

Thanks buddy. They were 6%. Now 7%.

So is that about $100 a month in taxes?
What was the MSRP on the car?

Base payment is $1145 I believe. Msrp was $117,245 give or take a few bucks.

What's your out of pocket. Great deal

$2344

Wow that's a killer deal. See if they are willing to give you an allocation at those numbers. My friend would love to order one.

It is a 2018. Residuals are different. Even with 10-12k off payment still quite a bit higher for 2019's. Otherwise I would've gotten a '19. Lol

Ex_Stig · 01-20-2019, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorpion76

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Originally Posted by GNALUZU

Yup. That's why I went with a M3 CS this time around. Got $15k off MSRP.

Congrats! 15k off was including incentives?

Yes

Scorpion76 · 01-21-2019, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GNALUZU

Yup. That's why I went with a M3 CS this time around. Got $15k off MSRP.

Congrats! 15k off was including incentives?

Yes

Thanks.
What are your payments like on the CS? Around $1000 a month?
A friend of mine is interested just trying to help him out....

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wassy Private First Class 30 Rep 101 Posts Drives: 2018 Bmw M5 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Weston, Fl iTrader: (0)	I "think" the comparisons to a 488 or 911 etc aren't based on actual dollars but relative value. $2000 for a +/- $125k msrp vs some of the lease programs in much more expensive cars. At $2000 a month you are into much different territory. Not that an M5 is not a great vehicle but it's not a turbo s! Lol. Truth is I said same thing when I set out to lease an M5. Was sorely disappointed with the lease rates and whether affordable or not, made no sense to me to pay $2k for this msrp range. Luckily cut a deal for a 2018 at $1215 tax in (now $1226 due to local sales tax increase starting Jan 1).
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M3PGH Major 807 Rep 1,401 Posts Drives: Too Many Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh,PA iTrader: (1)	my E 63 lease w 212, previous gen , was 1220 a month and the car was 112 k in my opinion a good lease is when monthly payment is 1% of the MSRP give or take some , with only first payment down so for M5 120 k , lease should be around 1200 may be max 1400
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weingarm Captain 857 Rep 703 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Here is my deal made today - on an ordered base M5 (non-Comp). As others have said, the wait...…... tortuous. 2019 base M5 MSRP: $118,595 Discount: -$5620 BMWFS lease cash: -$5000 Base cap cost: $107,975 Cash down payment: $1000 Net cap cost: $106,975 Residual Value: 55% (10K miles) Money Factor: .00188 Monthly Payment: $1483.41 (Plus $5974 cash due at delivery for taxes, acquisition fee, registration/title) If there is any improvement in the combination of residual value/money factor/BMWFS lease cash/loyalty credits by delivery - I'll get those rates.
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