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I was just going to post this.....
http://wot.motortrend.com/1407_2015_...650_lb_ft.html http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news The HP wars are on. Even though the C7 Corvette, Shelby Mustang, Camaro and HellCat - American muscle cars - are arguably different beasts than the upper-echelon vehicles found here, there is no way the likes of M,AMG and others will stand still and let the American machines pass them in the HP wars. More importantly, I am now more curious what the CTS-V number will come in at, as the Germans will be paying attention... 707 is just ridiculous, and as an HP junkie, I hope this has a halo effect - More HP everywhere LOL.... |
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never really been a fan of these cars, but this thing looks like its going to be a beast!
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07-02-2014, 07:17 AM | #6 |
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Yup I was going to post this yesterday too, but didn't have a chance.
The next CTS-V should be at least 600hp from the factory, but the trick with the next CTS-V is that I have a feeling it's going to be much lighter than the M5, like maybe even under 4,000lbs. Just take a look at the CTS-V Sport. By the way, I saw my first CTS-V Sport on the road just this past weekend and I gotta say I didn't hate the way it looked. It looked kind of badass from certain angles and there were certain aspects I really liked and maybe even loved, like the side view mirrors. Anyways, yeah I guess the horsepower wars are never going to be over, but maybe BMW forgot about that? I dunno. I mean the new M4 is rated at only 430hp although we now know in reality it's making about 475hp from the factory on any given day. The next Merc C63 AMG is going to be at least 500hp though, the horsepower wars will continue. Then Audi will follow suit with their next generation RS4/RS5 and so on. Truth be told I'm not really impressed with 707 horses on tap on the new Hellcat. That car is still an American muscle car which I think is great, but I know it's not really made to compete against certain other segments. Just look at how much that new Hellcat Challenger weighs, like 4,160lbs. It reminds me of the old Fast and Furious rivalry, American Muscle versus Japanese and European Imports, it's a rivalry that will never end, but I love it. I think these are exciting times we live in.
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07-02-2014, 09:40 AM | #7 |
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Call me crazy...but I like it! It also looks like they addressed some of the Challenger's other flaws, its brakes and interior. They are now using 15.4" Brembo rotors up front. The interior seems to have been upgraded (although I would like to see it in person). It will be interesting to see how well it performs.
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Just so you know.... I was NOT going to post this.
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I would like to know how good (or bad) this beast has traction... and as usual 0-60
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American muscle cars are historically heavy; that's their modus operandi: Gluttonous beasts with large displacement/hp engines that are animals in the 1/4 mile. 4160, which is lighter than your M5, actually seems a little light to me for that car... |
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Bottom lline its fast and can smoke a lot of things [unless it can't put power down] but for any m5 owner especially one with a tune... This is far from impressive. |
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I'd still bet money on the m5 stock vs. stock.... That DCT matters, putting power down matters more than an extra 72whp and 20-30wtq [and that's assuming its not higher than 12% loss] I'm just not impressed with it given what the z06 is looking to do, given what I know a 10 minute job and laptop with the m5 can do. And if the z06 comes in at 3600-3700lbs that means it'll have 400+lbs on this thing. |
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07-02-2014, 11:09 AM | #15 |
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It's more like 4400 pounds and the the tires in the back are narrower than my fronts and I don't even have an ///M currently. But, if someone were to put proper tires on this thing (which isn't easy, Dodge didn't make room on the Challenger for it) it could be quick-ish.
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In the video linked above, the SRT Prez says emphatically that it will be quicker than the Shelby GT500, which is 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and 11.6 sec @ 125.7 mph 1/4 mile. He said it, not me...
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07-02-2014, 11:57 AM | #20 |
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The 8 speed auto might be a problem. We have to wait and see.
But it's amazing when we can debate which stock 700 hp car is quicker. Amazing times. |
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Many magazines report similar numbers - the same magazines that have the M5/M6 at 3.7 and 11.9 |
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