[N-Dorfin]

Originally Posted by Stav

Thank you - the bushings maybe the reason for what I am experiencing. Wouldn't affected bushings make you feel everything resonating on the road, the engine and lots of noise on the steering wheel and foot rest even when stopped? As I accelerate it turns into more of vibration that is felt even more when turning the steering wheel minimally. While driving even touching barely the steering wheel feels like a subtle oscillator.

I don't think I had these the first couple of hundred miles but they seem to intensified as miles progressed with the shipping spacers.

This is exactly what I am experiencing as well in my 2018 M5 nonComp that already has 50000km ... wheels were already 3 times balanced (even road-forced balanced) ... the result is also the same on winter 19" and summer 20" wheels.

I already tried two other M5s (2018 nonComp and 2019 Comp) in my city and all are doing the same ... you feel slight oscilation or tickling mainly through the steering wheel and slightly from the floor, seats and foot rest ... when in indle and even when riding ... when riding it turns more into moderate vibrations in high speeds...

It is still present even when:
1) switching to neutral
2) switching to Rear wheel drive
3) in all ride settings (comfort, sport, sport plus)
4) lane assist off/on
5) other alingments (geometry) was done and everything is ok

Interesting fact is when I rev all the cars to 1500-2000 rpm when in neutral, the tickling/oscilating from steering wheel is present and you start to feel moderate vibration from the floor and seats as well ...

I already visited 2 dealerships, read hundreds of posts here about m5 and other bmws (even m5 f10 having issues with bent rods and x3 having problems with rear axle shafts resulting in vibrations) but had no luck with this

I doing some more investigation and will probably start new topic about it once I will have more results ... but in the meantime can some of you sit in your m5s and really check if you are experiencing the same?

Maybe we could start a PUMA case with this if there will be enough of us ... Thanks

[AHall]

Originally Posted by N-Dorfin

This is exactly what I am experiencing as well in my 2018 M5 nonComp that already has 50000km ... wheels were already 3 times balanced (even road-forced balanced) ... the result is also the same on winter 19" and summer 20" wheels.

I already tried two other M5s (2018 nonComp and 2019 Comp) in my city and all are doing the same ... you feel slight oscilation or tickling mainly through the steering wheel and slightly from the floor, seats and foot rest ... when in indle and even when riding ... when riding it turns more into moderate vibrations in high speeds...

It is still present even when:
1) switching to neutral
2) switching to Rear wheel drive
3) in all ride settings (comfort, sport, sport plus)
4) lane assist off/on
5) other alingments (geometry) was done and everything is ok

Interesting fact is when I rev all the cars to 1500-2000 rpm when in neutral, the tickling/oscilating from steering wheel is present and you start to feel moderate vibration from the floor and seats as well ...

I already visited 2 dealerships, read hundreds of posts here about m5 and other bmws (even m5 f10 having issues with bent rods and x3 having problems with rear axle shafts resulting in vibrations) but had no luck with this

I doing some more investigation and will probably start new topic about it once I will have more results ... but in the meantime can some of you sit in your m5s and really check if you are experiencing the same?

Maybe we could start a PUMA case with this if there will be enough of us ... Thanks

What did the dealers say? I guess they have not been helpful. Sounds like it is happening whether the car is moving or not. Maybe bad engine mounts or something loose. I guess it could be a lot of things causing this issue. Has the problem been present since new?

[Jamesmick]

Originally Posted by AHall

What did the dealers say? I guess they have not been helpful. Sounds like it is happening whether the car is moving or not. Maybe bad engine mounts or something loose. I guess it could be a lot of things causing this issue. Has the problem been present since new?

If it happens even when not in motion I was thinking engine mounts or something similar as well. Will be interesting to learn the culprit.

[subterFUSE]

This is yet another reason why I do perf delivery. My assumption being these oversights are far less likely when the car is prepped for delivery at the performance center rather than a dealership.

[MNoob]

Originally Posted by STi2M3

Where to start? When I told the dealer the car looked a little high in the front and the manager said it was normal? When I curbed my rim trying to get in on a high enough curb that I could get a better look? When my local garage turned me away saying they wouldn't dare put a brand new M5 Competition on a lift because they worried about liability? When I tried to get an appointment at my dealer to look at it and they gave me a two week wait? No, I'll just start with the fact that there are, at this very moment, two shipping blocks in my front suspension. They have been the bane of my existence. As many of you have seen in my posts the last couple of months, I have been clear that I thought there was something wrong with my suspension. The problem was that it hasn't been an obvious bouncing or noise, it has just been incredibly harsh. I felt like maybe I was just an idiot for buying, without a test drive, the M5C, because the Comp is meant to have a stiffer suspension. I felt like I live in Boston and the roads are crap and the car is bigger than my M3 was, so maybe... no, I knew something was wrong, but couldn't prove it. I was concerned that if I brought it back to the dealer they would cover up the problem since they left the blocks in and would be the only ones who could see them in there. In the end, my wife and I agreed that if we couldn't find anything wrong with the suspension, we were going to take a ~30K loss and sell it and get something else. As a last attempt (until I my appointment at the dealer was to come around in two weeks) I, after two tries, got my local tire shop to put the car on a lift (only after I bought new snow tires), because I was so convinced there had to be shipping blocks in there — BMW could not make a car that behaves like this... And there they were. (Pics below). I'm headed to the dealer now, but wanted to let my anger calm down.

Been there done that. Should we make some t shirts?

[GiantRobot]

Another week, another "they left the shipping blocks in" thread. the dealerships should know better and this is the result of nothing more than laziness by the dealership.

[K1600GT]

Brutal, same thing happened to me with a brand new 2015 Porsche C4S. It also became the most unreliable car I have ever owned. It was towed four times in the first year. Negotiated a buy back with the dealer and Porsche.

[Stan675LTS]

It’s happened to me on an M5 I had years ago, it’s truly unfathomable that this could ever happen.

[N-Dorfin]

Originally Posted by AHall

What did the dealers say? I guess they have not been helpful. Sounds like it is happening whether the car is moving or not. Maybe bad engine mounts or something loose. I guess it could be a lot of things causing this issue. Has the problem been present since new?

I guess it is there for last 10000km ... on the other side the other M5s I´ve tested had 15000km and 25000km and had it there as well ..

Dealers said they checked the car and found nothing and that it is quite difficult to guess what could be the reason ... solution was to go and start to try changing part by part .. there is also no PUMA case for this so far

I bought the car in Italy (brand new) so I would have to go there and leave car there because 2 year EU warranty is gone and now what is left is just 4year Italian warranty ... that is why I borrowed other M5s to try if the "oscillation" only affects my car ... but as you can see now, I found this issue in every M5 f90 I´ve driven. So i guess it is just a bug of this m5 generation that would be difficult to get rid of

I will probably try to buy some NVH (noise vibration harshness) app to find out something more (if the vibration is coming from engine, driveshaft, wheels or what) .. but it cost 500 bugs

[N-Dorfin]

Originally Posted by Stan550

It’s happened to me on an M5 I had years ago, it’s truly unfathomable that this could ever happen.

Did you find the solution how to get rid of the vibrations (except selling the car ) ? Thx

[fullsmoke]

Unbelievable. My 2021 has 2 blue shipping blocks in the front (I assume total of 4). Are there any in the back of the car? I can’t see any in the rear after jacking the rear up.

Also, will these come out easily? Or now bc they are banged up will be difficult to remove? I don’t really want to deal w going to the dealership.

FS

[freshxdough]

Lazy PDI technicians.

[mpower3330]

Just picked up my new 2022 yesterday from the dealer. I think we have another case of shipping blocks??? My left rear sits 0.5in lower than my right rear? I was wondering why the wheel gap looked higher than my 2019 M5 Comp. Is there any reason they should be different heights?





I think I see a shipping block on the right rear side, the left does not have that little white piece. Can someone confirm since I don't have expertise with this?

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by mpower3330

Just picked up my new 2022 yesterday from the dealer. I think we have another case of shipping blocks??? My left rear sits 0.5in lower than my right rear? I was wondering why the wheel gap looked higher than my 2019 M5 Comp. Is there any reason they should be different heights?





I think I see a shipping block on the right rear side, the left does not have that little white piece. Can someone confirm since I don't have expertise with this?

You're gonna have to get that camera further up in there to see lol. No other reason I can think of though. Jack it up and take off the wheel.