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      06-10-2019, 06:44 AM   #45
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Both are cool cars that essentially do the same thing. For me, there is no value in the comp model....7,500 dollars for low and stiff, exhaust, 16 hp, and some black bits. I mod my cars, so I took the 7500, added a tad more, and after install will have the car I want. Someone mentioned earlier...pick the one that checks your boxes.
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I decided for the base F90 because I use it as a DD and a harsher ride could be an issue for my back. For me, an M5 is not a track car. It is simply too heavy and a race track usually does not consist of straight lines only...

Since I was able to have the sport exhaust and the ceramic brakes without going for a comp, it was clear for me which one I want.

My M5 is fully equipped (fully means every single option, except the comp package). I don't miss anything, in particular not the stiffer ride or height of the car. I'm very happy with my choice.
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I decided for the base F90 because I use it as a DD and a harsher ride could be an issue for my back. For me, an M5 is not a track car. It is simply too heavy and a race track usually does not consist of straight lines only...

Since I was able to have the sport exhaust and the ceramic brakes without going for a comp, it was clear for me which one I want.

My M5 is fully equipped (fully means every single option, except the comp package). I don't miss anything, in particular not the stiffer ride or height of the car. I'm very happy with my choice.
Or, forget about the ceramic brakes option and get the Comp
The steel brakes are very capable on track. 3 days at the track and not a hint of brake fade. Very impressed because with the M4, I had to use Pagid pads since OEM pads were fading after 2 or 3 sessions.

In terms of weight, yes, you will obviously feel somewhat longer weight transfers in chicanes but it is very manageable with throttle input.

Now I can only imagine if I could get Pagid brake pads for it... For sure, in terms of bite, the ceramic brakes would be awesome from the get go. Consider how many Pagid pads you could get for the price of the ceramic brakes

I track my car and that is why I decided to go with the M5 competition.
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If you plan to drive you M5 in the winter and you live where it goes down (sometimes) to -30c driving on packed snow / ice, the non comp is your only option. Couldn't be happier with my non comp, a true DD.
Why is that? Ground clearance? Or the Comp isn't supposed to be driven in temps below -30C?
Also waiting for the answer to your question... hard to imagine that the ride height makes such a difference.
My decision to go with the non comp was not because it was 23mm (0.9 inches) lower then the standard car (although its one of the reasons I wouldn't lower my car unless it was easy / fast to adjust it back to standard height - I call lowered cars in the winter in Canada snow plows), it's because of the ride comfort in the winter. Comfort setting in the standard car (I believe) is more smooth on bumpy snow / ice covered roads then the comfort setting on the comp car.

With regards to driving the car when it's very cold outside (-20c or more) all cars seem to ride even more stiff (like driving with cement wheels / suspension) so the more comfortable it is before it gets cold reduces the impact of the cold on the suspension (IMO) especially when having to drive over packed snow and ice.
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      06-10-2019, 10:24 AM   #49
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If you plan to drive you M5 in the winter and you live where it goes down (sometimes) to -30c driving on packed snow / ice, the non comp is your only option. Couldn't be happier with my non comp, a true DD.
Why is that? Ground clearance? Or the Comp isn't supposed to be driven in temps below -30C?
Also waiting for the answer to your question... hard to imagine that the ride height makes such a difference.
My decision to go with the non comp was not because it was 23mm (0.9 inches) lower then the standard car (although its one of the reasons I wouldn't lower my car unless it was easy / fast to adjust it back to standard height - I call lowered cars in the winter in Canada snow plows), it's because of the ride comfort in the winter. Comfort setting in the standard car (I believe) is more smooth on bumpy snow / ice covered roads then the comfort setting on the comp car.

With regards to driving the car when it's very cold outside (-20c or more) all cars seem to ride even more stiff (like driving with cement wheels / suspension) so the more comfortable it is before it gets cold reduces the impact of the cold on the suspension (IMO) especially when having to drive over packed snow and ice.
Sorry but please get your numbers right. The competition is 7 mm (0.276 inch) lower compared to the standard M5. So no reason to call one a snow plow and the other not... both are in the conditions you talk about.

The other things are personal preferences.
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Sorry but please get your numbers right. The competition is 7 mm (0.276 inch) lower compared to the standard M5. So no reason to call one a snow plow and the other not... both are in the conditions you talk about.

The other things are personal preferences.
Exactly what I was thinking. To say that the base M5 is "your only option" if you live in an area with deep snow and cold average temps simply does not make any sense. Both the base the comp will act like snow plows in such conditions and an extra 7mm in ride height is not going to make much of a difference. Dedicated winter tires will make a difference. So a more appropriate statement would be that if you live in such an area with deep snow and cold average temps, ANY M5 whether base or comp are NOT the best options. Get an X5 or similar crossover/suv for such duties.
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Sorry but please get your numbers right. The competition is 7 mm (0.276 inch) lower compared to the standard M5. So no reason to call one a snow plow and the other not... both are in the conditions you talk about.

The other things are personal preferences.
Exactly what I was thinking. To say that the base M5 is "your only option" if you live in an area with deep snow and cold average temps simply does not make any sense. Both the base the comp will act like snow plows in such conditions and an extra 7mm in ride height is not going to make much of a difference. Dedicated winter tires will make a difference. So a more appropriate statement would be that if you live in such an area with deep snow and cold average temps, ANY M5 whether base or comp are NOT the best options. Get an X5 or similar crossover/suv for such duties.
Please read my response again ... I said I choose one over the other "not because" the comp is lower, it's because of ride comfort on the roads in the winter time especially when it's really cold outside ... the same reason I didn't get the Carbon Ceramic Brakes, they aren't working at their best when it's really cold outside ...
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Absolutely this! The thing is... the set with the comp. rims, rubber and sensors costs almost as much as the competition package.
Plus you won't get the exhaust for that price either. The Comp is a bargain supercar saloon and the ride is still very comfortable, IMO (and I stay on Sport setting). Those looking at the 19HP boost are definitely missing the point of buying a Comp. The real difference is the significant handling upgrade due to upgraded anti-roll bars, engine mounts, camber change and the lowering. These differences can be felt when daily driving and for me, make the car even more fun. The handling is immediate and lends itself to doing things a car this size should not be able to do. Plus the extra black bits are gorgeous (else why would so many base buyers get them? lol). Both cars are great but I'll take the Comp all day for the extra 7K to have the noticeable lowering, better handling and great exhaust sound at a significantly cheaper price than aftermarket.
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Plus you won't get the exhaust for that price either. The Comp is a bargain supercar saloon and the ride is still very comfortable, IMO (and I stay on Sport setting). Those looking at the 19HP boost are definitely missing the point of buying a Comp. The real difference is the significant handling upgrade due to upgraded anti-roll bars, engine mounts, camber change and the lowering. These differences can be felt when daily driving and for me, make the car even more fun. The handling is immediate and lends itself to doing things a car this size should not be able to do. Plus the extra black bits are gorgeous (else why would so many base buyers get them? lol). Both cars are great but I'll take the Comp all day for the extra 7K to have the noticeable lowering, better handling and great exhaust sound at a significantly cheaper price than aftermarket.
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Plus you won't get the exhaust for that price either. The Comp is a bargain supercar saloon and the ride is still very comfortable, IMO (and I stay on Sport setting). Those looking at the 19HP boost are definitely missing the point of buying a Comp. The real difference is the significant handling upgrade due to upgraded anti-roll bars, engine mounts, camber change and the lowering. These differences can be felt when daily driving and for me, make the car even more fun. The handling is immediate and lends itself to doing things a car this size should not be able to do. Plus the extra black bits are gorgeous (else why would so many base buyers get them? lol). Both cars are great but I'll take the Comp all day for the extra 7K to have the noticeable lowering, better handling and great exhaust sound at a significantly cheaper price than aftermarket.
you've summed the car up, I love mine.
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      06-10-2019, 01:46 PM   #55
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Difference in capitalized cost between comp and non-comp is currently around $12,000 (in the USA) due to the $5k lease incentive BMWFS has on the base M5 since the Competition model was launched. The reason is essentially to create a bigger price difference between the models.
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Great info on the comp-specific characteristics here:

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...80678EN/412669
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The reasoning for the purchase of my M5 Comp in Canada was two fold.

The first was price.
The difference was $7500 CAD, but it includes:
1MA - M Sport Exhaust $1500
4QQ - M Seat Belts $400
Gloss Black Kidney and Side Gills - $443 CAD / $328 USD
The difference now becomes $5157 CAD.
I can't put a dollar value on these items because some owner's wouldn't install them or would choose M Performance parts instead.
Gloss Black Mirror Covers
Gloss Black Rear Spoiler
Gloss Black Rear Diffuser
789M Forged Wheels
Small increase in HP
Chassis Tuning - Lowering 7mm, stiffer engine mounts and rear anti roll bar, etc...
The value for me is approximately $5000 CAD difference, I no longer will buy aftermarket wheels nor tweak the suspension. This alone is worth the extra $5k in cost.

The second is exclusivity. I have seen more regular M5's in my home town but fewer Comp's. I understand that the regular M5 has been in production for almost an extra year, but neither the regular M5 or Comp are common here.

The ride quality so far has not been an issue. I have only driven the car during my European delivery and expect the car for redelivery in the next 2-3 weeks. From my butt meter my E90 M3 (current DD) is slightly stiffer than the F90.
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I just bought a 6K-mile used base model (glad to be back after 4+ years with an E39). Anyway, like the OP above, I would have gladly ponied up the extra $7K to get forged wheels, comp exhaust, the blacked out grills, M-colored seatbelts, etc. But the difference unfortunately was more like $25K because I could not find a pre-owned one. So I will be watching others on the board and closing the gap a bit...I have already done the black grills and side-outlets, next is exhaust of some sort (probably Dinan just because I have had that stuff before). Anyway, thanks in advance for all of the info.
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I just bought a 6K-mile used base model (glad to be back after 4+ years with an E39). Anyway, like the OP above, I would have gladly ponied up the extra $7K to get forged wheels, comp exhaust, the blacked out grills, M-colored seatbelts, etc. But the difference unfortunately was more like $25K because I could not find a pre-owned one. So I will be watching others on the board and closing the gap a bit...I have already done the black grills and side-outlets, next is exhaust of some sort (probably Dinan just because I have had that stuff before). Anyway, thanks in advance for all of the info.
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Just to answer my own thread, and offer an opinion for anyone interested.

https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...ard-m5.213830/
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https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...ard-m5.213830/
I like your comparison write-up.
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Just to answer my own thread, and offer an opinion for anyone interested.

https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...ard-m5.213830/
Well, as was proven by the reply on the UK forum, we can't all agree (some of us do it with a tad more tact, respect, empathy, though... take your pick :-). That said, and cognizant that I'm obviously coming across as biased, I just can't find a road where I find the Comp too harsh--I found many in my AMG E63S.

For me, the wheels and the exhaust were enough to sway me.
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Well, as was proven by the reply on the UK forum, we can't all agree (some of us do it with a tad more tact, respect, empathy, though... take your pick :-). That said, and cognizant that I'm obviously coming across as biased, I just can't find a road where I find the Comp too harsh--I found many in my AMG E63S.

For me, the wheels and the exhaust were enough to sway me.
Thats absolutely fine . My write up may be of use to anyone contemplating both cars. I was out in the car for quite a few hours last night, driving some of the roads i know well, and had driven in the Comp many, many times, and my opinion only swayed more to the std car, the more i drove it.
On another note, last night was the first time i have launched an M5 with full launch control, and all i can say is Holy F !! . The road was damp, and the car left the line without fuss, drama or any TC light at all. I couldnt believe it, just awesome. Should the gearbox shift on its own into second, as i seemed to hit the limiter, expecting it to shift, but didnt seem to, but i may have lifted slightly, and i seem to remember that i should have keept it nailed to the carpet ?.
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Thats absolutely fine . My write up may be of use to anyone contemplating both cars. I was out in the car for quite a few hours last night, driving some of the roads i know well, and had driven in the Comp many, many times, and my opinion only swayed more to the std car, the more i drove it.
On another note, last night was the first time i have launched an M5 with full launch control, and all i can say is Holy F !! . The road was damp, and the car left the line without fuss, drama or any TC light at all. I couldnt believe it, just awesome. Should the gearbox shift on its own into second, as i seemed to hit the limiter, expecting it to shift, but didnt seem to, but i may have lifted slightly, and i seem to remember that i should have keept it nailed to the carpet ?.
Just for balance, I would like to point you to your original Finding of the M5 Comp.
Here: https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...oughts.208779/
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