[A Need For Speed]

Originally Posted by Nikolov

Oh, where do I start?

1. The McLaren F1 is almost 30 years old and is still considered one of the best cars ever built. The F90 is just a mass produced vehicle. Saying that the F90 is anywhere near the F1, just because it has more horsepower, doesn't have any relevance.
2. There was nothing wrong with the SMG III, let alone the DCT. To quote you - "perhaps you just didn't know how to drive it" Definitely not in D mode.
3. We don't drink vodka, that's the Russians.

I'll stop derailing OPs thread. I'm not saying the F90 is a bad car, it's the best 4 door saloon currently. I'm saying it could have been a LOT better if it wasn't designed by BMW's Marketing team.

You Bulgarians must be a hoot at parties.
1. No one said the M5 was an F1, which I agree is a legend. You said the M5 is more like a 5 series sellout and I was pointing out the horsepower is in supercar territory. They are two totally different cars. Reading is fundamental.
2.The SMG as I remember it was basically a piece of crap. Lurching, never felt in right gear, terrible. The V10 however was great. I agree D mode can be boring but the automatic handles optimal shifting in less than 200 milliseconds. You think you can do better than that? You can not.
Here's an article still up about SMG.
https://www.bmwblog.com/2017/11/28/s...m5-experience/
Was not a fan of DCT as well. You remember this one about DCT durability on high horsepower cars and the coming automatics? Explains the F90 tranny choice.
https://jalopnik.com/bmw-m-boss-says...ill-1794558556
3. No vodka there? Thats too bad. Might help your mood.

[LSM]

RS6 Avant?!? RS7!?! Come on! Audi platform shares with VW. These cars are transverse engine / front wheel drive and they add Quattro. Audi's drive like shit IMO. Understeer, overweight, poor weight distribution due to front drive platform/ transverse engine, bad handling.....they never feel like M cars at all

[Jocko78]

RS7, hopefully theres a more robust hybrid option by then above and beyond the existing new 48V mild hybrid. M8 Grand Coupe as well if they do Hybrid or the Taycan. I haven't received my M5 yet so I don't want to get too far ahead of myself.

[devondragon]

I love Audis, but they do understeer like pigs and are quite front heavy. Very different dynamic than the M5.

[Deda]

Well the future has been forseen..new G90 with new S68 engine..

[Dumbo]

M5s have always been a compromise car. I have owned all generations since the E60 and have felt they offer a great package - comfortable, seats 4/5 people, performs well for what it is. But they are always limited by their size and weight.

Best solution is to keep the F90 and add a fun car, I just picked up a 720s which is a perfect stablemate.

F90CS will be the obvious choice to replace the F90 when the time comes...

[hoffmeister]

Agree with the itch and glad to be in good company. M8 GC maybe comp version for me. Just wrestling with whether its ultimately paying 30 grand more for the exact same powertrain and possibly not as good handling. Thinking of just rolling with the M5 and putting the fun money into upsizing the boat.

[jmorgan911]

Getting the itch now too, at 11k Mile's and 14 months in. Gonna test drive the new G63 this week

[RPI-M5]

the M8GC Comp is tempting, but I agree is a hard value prop with the same power train as the M5C. if power train weren't a consideration, then I'd likely be in a Panamera GTS with a RaceChip to close the power gap.

for me, the what's next list depends on if I'm in the same, or 1 step better financial circumstances. when I got my M5C my price cap was $135k. if that goes up, then AMG GT 63S comes into the picture. but M5CS is currently the leader in the clubhouse

[mcdokika]

May go back to SUV s , who knows. Still early days..

Electric cars ?

[josec70]

Probably M5 #6

[euro*]

For me it would be either the M5CS, or Taycan. Really interested to test drive the Taycan.

But for now, loving the M5!

[Miko M]

M5 is a great car, I sold it because I want lighter track car
Owning every M3 I will be waiting for G80 and I even having thoughts on M2 CS or M2 racer.

[limeypride]

Originally Posted by euro*

For me it would be either the M5CS, or Taycan. Really interested to test drive the Taycan.

But for now, loving the M5!

Is the CS model confirmed? It seems like a strange direction... I say that because if even I'm not interested, then who? (I'm strategically ignoring every one of you weirdos above who've expressed interest )

Seriously, though, this is a family sedan (first) with daily thrills for the father who's not quite yet accepted parenthood or responsibility and (ninth) an occasional track sleeper (road course or dragstrip).

[Nikolov]

Originally Posted by limeypride

Is the CS model confirmed? It seems like a strange direction... I say that because if even I'm not interested, then who? (I'm strategically ignoring every one of you weirdos above who've expressed interest )

Seriously, though, this is a family sedan (first) with daily thrills for the father who's not quite yet accepted parenthood or responsibility and (ninth) an occasional track sleeper (road course or dragstrip).

I wouldn't be surprised if they make an M5CS, just look at the amount of M4 editions. Sad part is it probably won't be that much different than the regular M5, but it will definitely cost more, because it's going to be "limited".

[windtendo]

Originally Posted by josec70

Probably M5 #6

[Quickburn7]

Originally Posted by Vic55

F90 is my 4 door so I would replace it with a 4 door and right now the only car as good as an F90 is an..... F mother fucking 90. So maybe ill get a 2020 or 2021 depending on the minute changes. I love my First Edition so its a keeper for now.

I've had the itch for a while now but I switch off daily driving duties with my 812SF.
Honestly nothing else comes close to the F90 and I've been looking since I'm at 20k miles now on the car.
My plan is to get rid of the M5 when my 992 turbo comes in next year but that still will not do everything the F90 does....

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Quickburn7

I've had the itch for a while now but I switch off daily driving duties with my 812SF.
Honestly nothing else comes close to the F90 and I've been looking since I'm at 20k miles now on the car.
My plan is to get rid of the M5 when my 992 turbo comes in next year but that still will not do everything the F90 does....

Agree, the best 4 door car out there is what we all have here. I never ever keep sedans this long (more than a year) and this F90 already had a bday!!!

[gtenedio]

2 sides of spectrum TBD:

new m3 or SVR sport lol

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by Quickburn7

I've had the itch for a while now but I switch off daily driving duties with my 812SF.
Honestly nothing else comes close to the F90 and I've been looking since I'm at 20k miles now on the car.
My plan is to get rid of the M5 when my 992 turbo comes in next year but that still will not do everything the F90 does....

992 Turbo S ?

[Quickburn7]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

992 Turbo S ?

992 Turbo or turbo S if they release the S at the same time.

[Rk-d]

I’m thinking Taycan.