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      09-17-2019, 09:45 AM   #67
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I’ve got the 997.2 TT S and it’s a wonderful car. As close to perfect as anything I’ve ever owned or driven. I’m never selling. It .

Can’t hold the amount of luggage or people as the M5. But the M5 and a TTS is the ultimate combo.

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      09-17-2019, 11:05 AM   #68
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M5s have always been a compromise car.
All cars are compromise cars. If it isn't performance or handling then it's price and comfort. The perfect car does not exist. Most people are happy to compromise on some things are long as what they want is there.
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      09-17-2019, 11:22 AM   #69
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We have a pre-order for a Tesla roadster (thinking it should arrive 2022), that would theoretically replace the F90.

Alternatively I may get a Macan S for the utility of it (higher off the ground and easier to get in and out of), though it's nowhere as sexy. In that scenario I would also upgrade our Model S if there is any kind of refresh in the next year or so.

All subject to change depending on mood, money and what's available at the time.
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      09-17-2019, 01:59 PM   #70
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Anyone concerned that they will be locked into their F90 and BMW releases the '21 M5 with a big Grill AND hybrid power at 700hp/700trq?
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      09-18-2019, 12:07 AM   #71
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Looking to downgrade, huh? My M5C does not feel meh. Interior is clearly one of the best I have seen, extremely comfortable, and the whole car just looks bad ass. Transmission is f'in great (IMO) and car is a complete blast to drive. I still handwash mine every weekend, 6 months in, and I enjoy doing it. Kinda a time to admire it.

You know, maybe the problem is you. Maybe you aren't driving it right. lol.
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Welp, considering you're calling the 991.2 TTS a downgrade compared to a M5C and that you're liking the ZF, I'm sure your driving capabilities far surpass mine.
Good response Nikolov lol...I am fortunate to own both and I can tell you as much as I really (really) enjoy the M5CE - it is no downgrade to move to a 991.2 Porsche Turbo S. That is just silly.
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      09-18-2019, 07:36 AM   #72
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Looking at the way BMW has been going lately, with both interior and exterior design and how meh the M cars feel now, probably not a BMW. Maybe a P car.

I'm already bored with the car after 2 months, that slushbox transmission kills all the joy from driving the car. I'll probably keep it for a year or two until my lease is up and look for a nice 991.2 Turbo S.
I felt the same way bud. It felt boring! Couldn't connect with the M5, so little options, no WOW factor. I honestly started to dread the car and sold it. Best decision i ever made for a car. Got the S560. Waiting for the 2020 911 Turbo S, its on way 😎
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      09-18-2019, 07:56 AM   #73
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I felt the same way bud. It felt boring! Couldn't connect with the M5, so little options, no WOW factor. I honestly started to dread the car and sold it. Best decision i ever made for a car. Got the S560. Waiting for the 2020 911 Turbo S, its on way 😎
You're saying one of the reasons you sold the M5 is because you couldn't connect with it, and you ended up getting an S560??
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      09-18-2019, 10:25 AM   #74
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I felt the same way bud. It felt boring! Couldn't connect with the M5, so little options, no WOW factor. I honestly started to dread the car and sold it. Best decision i ever made for a car. Got the S560. Waiting for the 2020 911 Turbo S, its on way 😎
You ordered a 2020 Turbo S and it's on the way?
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      09-18-2019, 10:36 AM   #75
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Anyone concerned that they will be locked into their F90 and BMW releases the '21 M5 with a big Grill AND hybrid power at 700hp/700trq?
No. It's called SwapAlease.

PS: are you citing confirmed facts about the power, engine and grille?
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      09-18-2019, 10:45 AM   #76
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I felt the same way bud. It felt boring! Couldn't connect with the M5, so little options, no WOW factor. I honestly started to dread the car and sold it. Best decision i ever made for a car. Got the S560. Waiting for the 2020 911 Turbo S, its on way 😎
You ordered a 2020 Turbo S and it's on the way?
I was told by my Porsche contact that 992 turbo won't start production until late summer 2020
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No, nothing confirmed, just industry trends.
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      09-18-2019, 01:35 PM   #78
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I was told by my Porsche contact that 992 turbo won't start production until late summer 2020
Correct QB - and they will be 2021’s - not 2020 s.

No one has ordered a GTS - forget a Turbo S.
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      09-18-2019, 05:33 PM   #79
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We have a pre-order for a Tesla roadster (thinking it should arrive 2022), that would theoretically replace the F90.

Alternatively I may get a Macan S for the utility of it (higher off the ground and easier to get in and out of), though it's nowhere as sexy. In that scenario I would also upgrade our Model S if there is any kind of refresh in the next year or so.

All subject to change depending on mood, money and what's available at the time.
my wife extended her 2016 model s lease thru january to wait and see if there is an interior redesign or exterior adjustment (Not a Refresh!)

we were disappointed at the turbo/turbo s release for the taycan, we were hoping for the opposite end of the trims to be released first
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      09-18-2019, 05:36 PM   #80
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      09-18-2019, 10:06 PM   #82
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How about....
Man...I have been looking at downsizing to the new M3 for some time - everything has been looking good - until I saw that grill. I just. Don't. Know.
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      09-18-2019, 11:05 PM   #83
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Man...I have been looking at downsizing to the new M3 for some time - everything has been looking good - until I saw that grill. I just. Don't. Know.
Lexus started this mess. BMW is joining up....I don't understand the Big Grill Movement.
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Grillgate notwithstanding, the 4 series concept looks stunning.
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      09-19-2019, 01:22 PM   #85
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Grillgate notwithstanding, the 4 series concept looks stunning.
That is the thing...it DOES - in ever other angle. It is beautiful.

That grill though...
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      09-19-2019, 10:19 PM   #86
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Does anyone know where the panamera is in its cycle? When will the next edition be available. Now I'm starting to think about life after f90.
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      09-20-2019, 12:46 AM   #87
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I’m thinking Audi R8 v10 plus or Amg gtr
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      09-20-2019, 09:47 AM   #88
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Does anyone know where the panamera is in its cycle? When will the next edition be available. Now I'm starting to think about life after f90.
I believe 2020 MY which are in production now will have no changes with the 2021 being the refresh. Full taillight bar like the new Macan and cayenne coupe and minor power bumps being a few of the changes.
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