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Having owned the F90 comp, I most certainly claim the CS is better than the comp by a noticeable margin. If you are talking about comfort and more features, then the comp is better, but as a drivers car and as far as the total package, with everything they have done to the CS, it is the best car I have ever owned and I feel privileged to get my hands on one.
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I'm all about the CS line. I had a F80cs myself. It's definitely a more special car than the competition and base models given the little details added. Everything adds up in the end to where the car does feel different despite minor changes on paper.
However, when it comes down to it, the CS is basically the competition with weight reduction, a mild engine tune, and possible suspension tuning. It has the same exact engine and suspension hardware as the M8 competition and M5 competition LCI. The M5CS wheels also have the same exact 789m wheels just in a different color, whereas the M3 and M2 cs have their own unique lighter 763m wheels. As to whether the weight reduction and software tuning leads to such significant difference in feel that many reviewers are reporting, I am sure there is a noticeable difference. But a lot of these videos seem to suggest that the M5CS is so different that it's an entirely different chassis. If I wasn't in the know of how BMW markets their CS models, I would believe that the M5CS is some bespoke chassis built from scratch so vastly different than other M5s, but in reality that's not it. BMW does this with all their CS models so far. It's parts bin package with some unique parts like the CF hood, but the core components are shared between the CS, Competition and to a lesser extent base models. I think they did an amazing job for the CS but I wanted to add to the discussion that lot of this is marketing. This is not to bash the CS by any means, I'm just trying to look at it realistically. I myself would rather have one too, but not at the expense of trading in my M5C and paying ADM in this market. |
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you guys just need to get your head out of your asses. I've never once discredited the M5 in any way. I'm simply saying it isn't a super car, or even close to it in regards to performance. It lost to the new turbo, not even the S. Yet you guys keep badgering this "supercar" thing.
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Buy what you want, call it what you want (supercar) and enjoy it.
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Can we agree that there's more to a "supercar" label than just acceleration times? And can we agree that the M5 CS is one of the fastest sedans on the planet at any price? That makes it pretty super in my book.
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Slow? Are you calling a car which is reported top 10 quickest car in the world as "slow" ? https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...-2020-slowest/ Well I have been driving my M8 for about 10 months and had bunch of M-Cars before this M8 and never felt boring or slow
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Having significant seat time pushing an M2C hard and now owning the M2 CS, the difference is real. I believe the reviews on the M5 CS, especially EVO.
The only unfortunate aspect of the M5 CS is the auto gearbox, but most super cars do not have a true manual anymore. I'll stop defending the CS, maybe people will stop buying them and I can get my hands on one of these so called M5s with a few carbon bits. |
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As good as the CS cars are, they're just not worth the premium over their Competition counterparts.
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Seriously I would like to know the criteria of a super car in your mind!
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It's a matter of not overpowering the chassis and ruining the balance. I think the m5cs could stand about another 200-300awhp before you start having traction issues and having too much speed for those brakes. The turbo s just so happens to have higher limits. I do indeed intend to track both. I PPF'ed the hell out of the CS so hopefully I don't get a bunch of shit all over the paint. After having a 1118hp S2000, I'm pretty sure I know what it's like to overpower a chassis.
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The M5 is a great car, but it isn't what I'd consider a "supercar." I wouldn't even consider the GTR a "supercar." Supercars to me are on up there with Ferrari, Bugatti, Lamborghini...
For the CS, yes it's nice, but there is this disconnect between what it actually is and what people want to say it is. Much was removed from the CS that helps put the polish on the M5 in general, and then those gimmicky, ball-fondling (honestly this may be the source of all the fandom), carbon fiber seats were added. It's just a bastardized offshoot of the M5... as a "track car." I just have issues with spending a premium on something that is less of a daily driver (which to me is one of the major identity characteristics of the M5) and more of a "hey, we have all this Signal Green paint left over and these tacky ass bronze wheels, how can we get rid of them?" |
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