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      10-12-2021, 01:36 AM   #23
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That's dumb. The X5, X6, X7, 8Series, 7Series and even the pre facelift 5 series, and those cars (but the 5) in M models all have color changing B&W. That's just ridiculous.

The video here is of when I got an M850i test car for a few weeks from BMW.
It's just odd. [IMG][/IMG]
Doesn’t bother me personally. I like the contrast it provides to the rest of the lighting.
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The topic of laser lights not available on US 5 series has been discussed ad nauseam on this forum. No one knows for sure why, but they are not available and will not be available in this generation.
You can blame DOT. Here is the explanation.

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1&postcount=66
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Just an FYI, you can get Active Lane Assist coded back in if you have individual paint and BMW decoded it (8TR - Decoding Additional Function).
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The topic of laser lights not available on US 5 series has been discussed ad nauseam on this forum. No one knows for sure why, but they are not available and will not be available in this generation.
You can blame DOT. Here is the explanation.

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=26321721&postcount=66
Thanks rccarps2. I do remember this post.

I wish the laser lights were available just because the blue indicator just looks cool. I am totally satisfied with the performance of the headlights as is.
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      10-14-2021, 02:43 PM   #27
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At least you had the option to get B&W. That was an option I was really looking forward to, but I recently found out it is no longer available when I locked in my build this week.
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Thanks rccarps2. I do remember this post.

I wish the laser lights were available just because the blue indicator just looks cool. I am totally satisfied with the performance of the headlights as is.
Wish I could say the same. Had issues with my headlights right from the start. Compared to my wifes X5 with lasers, they are junk, IMO.
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At least you had the option to get B&W. That was an option I was really looking forward to, but I recently found out it is no longer available when I locked in my build this week.
Yes. This is because of the chip shortage. On some models, heads up display is also being removed. For the G80 and G82, the M Performance exhaust is not possible because it needs a chip for the valves.
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That's dumb. The X5, X6, X7, 8Series, 7Series and even the pre facelift 5 series, and those cars (but the 5) in M models all have color changing B&W. That's just ridiculous.

The video here is of when I got an M850i test car for a few weeks from BMW.
It's just odd. [IMG][/IMG]
Doesn’t bother me personally. I like the contrast it provides to the rest of the lighting.
I do have to agree with you, haha. I have thought about it before, that it would be too much blue or green or whatever color you may choose.
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That's dumb. The X5, X6, X7, 8Series, 7Series and even the pre facelift 5 series, and those cars (but the 5) in M models all have color changing B&W. That's just ridiculous.
I'm pretty sure you can get the B&W in the G30/F90 chassis to change colors thru coding (custom coding) - but have not verified this.
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That's dumb. The X5, X6, X7, 8Series, 7Series and even the pre facelift 5 series, and those cars (but the 5) in M models all have color changing B&W. That's just ridiculous.
I'm pretty sure you can get the B&W in the G30/F90 chassis to change colors thru coding (custom coding) - but have not verified this.
I would be interested in doing this. The B&W is already incredible looking and would be neat to have color options too. The B&W was an absolute must when I got my M5C. Refused to take a car with the lesser system which isn't known to sound even decent and just can't match the looks of the B&W.
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Active Lane Change Assistant is deleted with Individual Paint.
Seriously? WTF is that all about?

Also, isn't there a box you have to check, somewhere in the menus, that you have to allow this? Maybe I'm misremembering, and I don't have my car with me right now, so can't check.
It does pop up on the BMW configuration screen as a warning. As another member said, it's due to the individual paint thickness and impacts the sensor's performance.
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Didn't know guys in the US couldn't get laser lights. My dealer rep here in AUS told me that any new F90 orders will most probably not come with touch screen on the iDrive, no Bowers & Wilkins and some driver assistance gimmicks due to the global chip shortage issue. Although, my mate who ordered his M3 yesterday would still get touch screen and those driver assistance features. I found that totally weird as cheaper M cars will get it but not the m5c.
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My 2021 M5 had the BMW LED lights but not laser. But my 2022 M5 CS I just took delivery of a week ago the lights say laser in the housing. I assume these are the laser lights you all are talking about, am I missing something?
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My 2021 M5 had the BMW LED lights but not laser. But my 2022 M5 CS I just took delivery of a week ago the lights say laser in the housing. I assume these are the laser lights you all are talking about, am I missing something?
this was answered on page 1. Small production batch waiver.
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I feel like nobody has talked about this (or at least I've tried searching for a forum and haven't found anything)

Does anyone know why BMW decided to not give the US laser headlights and instead gave us non adaptive LED ones?

All US spec M5 only have LEDs that do NOT move when you turn the wheel, only up and down. It does have the cornering light, but that's it.

Another issue I noticed is the assisted driving package with autopilot doesn't change lanes for you.
In my 2021 750i and 2019 M850i coupe, you tap the turn signal, and the car will change lanes for you while in autopilot, so long as you gently hold the wheel. The M5 however does not do this.

Lastly, the Bowers&Wilkins… so my 750i and M850i have it too, and change color with the ambient lighting.
My M5Competition LCI is Individual British Racing Green with the Tartufo interior and the Bowers&Wilkins. Now obviously I have the ambient lighting set to green. But, the stereo stays white, and there's no option to change the color of it in the M5.

If anyone knows these weird issues or quirks that'd be great.
This is my first post so I'm curious
I was to logging in to post these exact questions but for a new build. My dealer has a floor stock F90 LCI March 21 build in DG with black interior. And he is offering a sweet deal that is too hard to resist. But I need to buy before end of this year, which I am not keen on. Ideally, I want to spec my car with an individual or different standard colour and different interior options but he said you won't get touch screen capabilities, bowers and Wilkins and limited driving assistance due to the bloody chip issue.

Is this something any of you guys have heard / is it true?

P.S I am from AUS and we are fine with laser lights. My mate just ordered an M3 comp - March Production estimate and he is getting everything.
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I feel like nobody has talked about this (or at least I've tried searching for a forum and haven't found anything)

Does anyone know why BMW decided to not give the US laser headlights and instead gave us non adaptive LED ones?

All US spec M5 only have LEDs that do NOT move when you turn the wheel, only up and down. It does have the cornering light, but that's it.

Another issue I noticed is the assisted driving package with autopilot doesn't change lanes for you.
In my 2021 750i and 2019 M850i coupe, you tap the turn signal, and the car will change lanes for you while in autopilot, so long as you gently hold the wheel. The M5 however does not do this.

Lastly, the Bowers&Wilkins… so my 750i and M850i have it too, and change color with the ambient lighting.
My M5Competition LCI is Individual British Racing Green with the Tartufo interior and the Bowers&Wilkins. Now obviously I have the ambient lighting set to green. But, the stereo stays white, and there's no option to change the color of it in the M5.

If anyone knows these weird issues or quirks that'd be great.
This is my first post so I'm curious
I was to logging in to post these exact questions but for a new build. My dealer has a floor stock F90 LCI March 21 build in DG with black interior. And he is offering a sweet deal that is too hard to resist. But I need to buy before end of this year, which I am not keen on. Ideally, I want to spec my car with an individual or different standard colour and different interior options but he said you won't get touch screen capabilities, bowers and Wilkins and limited driving assistance due to the bloody chip issue.

Is this something any of you guys have heard / is it true?

P.S I am from AUS and we are fine with laser lights. My mate just ordered an M3 comp - March Production estimate and he is getting everything.
The issue for the USA is the safety laws prevent BMW from letting the US Spec M5 have laser lights and even adaptive LED. They're just fixed LED lights for US Spec.

Due to the chip shortage, BMW is only letting the iX have Bowers&Wilkins. The touch screen I had no idea of. This shouldn't be true considering all their models have touch screens as standard. I'm not sure about the driving assistance pack. I know that the Drivers Assistance Plus pack has self driving features.

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My 2021 M5 had the BMW LED lights but not laser. But my 2022 M5 CS I just took delivery of a week ago the lights say laser in the housing. I assume these are the laser lights you all are talking about, am I missing something?
The M5CS gets laser because it's production number is low enough for BMW not having to follow certain laws.

Congrats on your Club Sport.

As much as I'd love laser lights, I prefer ventilated massaging seats, soft close doors, and autopilot. But that's just me, haha.
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As far as the autopilot not switching lanes, not ALL individual colors are included. For example an individual color that is offered for sale (frozen bluestone) in this instance would NOT get the option decoded. It might even be safe to say that with certain individual colors that were offered on other cars say m3 m4 m8 x5 x7 etc as "serial" colors that it might still work since those had been tested.
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See my response above. F90 LCI do have Adaptive LED installed, but the function is deactivated because it's no longer a mechanical system. Once it's legal for BMW to do so, the Digital AHL functions can be activated with an OTA update.



Active Lane Change Assistant is deleted with Individual Paint.
This is incorrect. I have a 2022 M5 with Individual Paint and my lane change works fine
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This is incorrect. I have a 2022 M5 with Individual Paint and my lane change works fine
You most likely have a color that bmw tested and hence isn't really considered individual even though they call it that. (Frozen Bluestone, marina bay blue, etc) a true individual color say purple, voodoo, Verde mantis, etc will have the function decoded from the factory and your order sheet will say 8tr additional functions decoded.
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This is incorrect. I have a 2022 M5 with Individual Paint and my lane change works fine
You most likely have a color that bmw tested and hence isn't really considered individual even though they call it that. (Frozen Bluestone, marina bay blue, etc) a true individual color say purple, voodoo, Verde mantis, etc will have the function decoded from the factory and your order sheet will say 8tr additional functions decoded.
It's pretty nuts that that is even the case. When someone made the reference to the color being the cause earlier in the thread, I was convinced it was sarcasm. I understand why now that you guys have explained it, and it certainly makes sense from an engineering perspective. But if you didn't know all that, it really sounds like a joke for such a highly engineered car.
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