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Ah, there it is. The ONE PROBLEM i was afraid the shift from DCT -> ZF8 would have. In the third video with autogehful, when he launches the car, the car preshifts at 5.8k RPM rather than going all the way to redline in first gear. Whenever you drive the car in manual mode, you will 100% of the time bog the car as it will never allow you to hit redline in first gear.
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The car just looks (and appears) to be uninspired. Besides the RWD —> AWD switch, there doesn’t seem like there’s much to get excited about. Perhaps that option will be worth it to those in this market.
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I find it funny how everyone is talking about fixes for the car in the higher performing versions...why bother releasing an m5 then?
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I just sat in the F90 M5 at the LA Autoshow. Best thing I liked about the new M5 over the previous one: the Bowers and Wilkins Sound System. It is hands down a superior system to the Bang and Olufsen. Sadly the rest of the car did not excite me. The digital instrument cluster was cool. The seat was a little more comfortable and supportive than the F10 M5 seat. I played around with iDrive M xDrive settings.
From probably one if the worlds biggest M5 fans, I am let down by the new M5, but I guess I'll need to also drive it before I can reach a final verdict. Also the wheels actually look pretty good in person, but I hate the laziness they took in designing the side view mirrors. I look forward to the M8.
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Sounds decent so far. Waiting for the head to heads!
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Thanks for posting this compilation! About as expected. Without getting into the controversies about the auto box, no MT, and 4WD, I'm glad that M has kept the tradition of the Q-ship alive with the 6th generation M5. As multiple reviews stated, you can park it wherever, and only those in the know will understand. That has always been the beauty of an M5...
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Amazing... just wish they differentiated the body a bit more from the F10.
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So basically the intangibles that make for a good M car, this boat lacks. As expected.
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So much negativity, this car is awesome.
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Sound has not been the S55's strong suit - but an M Performance Exhaust completely fixes that issue and transforms the experience. The N55 just does not even remotely compare to the S55. The stock S65 beats the stock S55 in sound, and that is it (I have over 80,000 miles on my E93, almost 60k on my F80, and now just upgraded to the F80 ZCP with the M Performance Exhaust). I wouldn't have gone back to the E9x from my "civic" F80, and the F80 with ZCP and M Performance Exhaust truly moves the game ahead to yet another level (you should really try one)... I've driven countless loaner vehicles with the N55 - N55 is not even in the same universe as the S55. |
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Regarding the S55 you can throw all the facts you want at me, but I can get that from journalists. As for being in the same universe, the N55 in the M2 is definitely of the same breed but I found it significantly less laggy though ran out of breath at the top end. I went into the dealership sure I'd buy an M3 but in the end the S55 didn't grab me. Glad I didn't end up with it. Granted I hear the early models weren't quite as good and the zcp is transformative (though they said that about the e92 and it wasn't ). But I really hated my test drive. Your durability comment is a little reckless given we have significantly more data on the N55 and so far it seems to be smooth sailing. Having owned 11 BMWs I can tell you durability certainly isn't only related to the specs of the components. The S55 has been good so far but we can't say its more or less durable. Actually the N55 in the M2 seems to be taking all people can throw at it if temps are kept in check. Sorry but even with an exhaust the S55 sounds like garbage. objectively. I don't even know how it made it past engineering. I have heard one in person and no. You gotta be a fanboy.
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One thing I do agree with you on though - you're not going to change my mind on the S55 - that engine has completely won me over. |
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Here's a Canadian review of the F90:
http://www.canadianautoreview.ca/rev...18-bmw-m5.html They also put up a pretty great exhaust note video for those of you wondering what this new M5 sounds like: Last edited by CarbonFibre; 12-04-2017 at 09:23 AM.. |
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I feel like a lot of negativity towards the new M5 is just unjustified until some proper reviews come out.
Most of them that i quickly checked out are still stuck of fake exhaust note and electric steering while BMW uses them for what 5 - 6years? And you easly get rid of sound problem with MPE or other manufacturer if you dont want to support BMW. M2 that is so higly praised has them aswell and everyone just forgets about it? And i feel like most of the reviews for E63 just talk about how 4WD can act almost like RWD. BMW just does it better at first look. The styling is just to each their own but i think they updated F10 look just enough to get rid of some bad angles. And i feel like BMW does interiors right at this moment with digital display but still have that simple controls of the iDrive. And at first glance it looks like a lot of people are saying E63 has that harsh ride even in comfort setting meanwhile that hasnt been a problem with M adaptive suspension. I think we need to wait for some proper reviews comparing F90 to F10 and E63 and we will see. So far to me it looks like F90 does everything just a little bit better than the competition. Also are this reviews without the M performance styling and exhaust right? |
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Porsche (from what I've read) seem to be the only company who've nailed feel from EPS. Might I suggest BMW buy a few and work out how (?) |
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"The electric steering is much better this time around and while it’s 25% quicker, the weight also builds up nicely under rotation and feels much more linear."
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