[Mark1966]

Originally Posted by ciscopete822

fair enough , I got you dude but then do you really buy a car based on someone else review / opinion? People will have different expectations , habits , needs and so on. I read both of them and they contradicts with my impressions. It is not like I am getting excited because I temporarily own expensive car. I do have a Maserati which is a proper WOW car. I had driven number of performance cars , and based on experience I am saying S8 is something special. Those dudes giving 2 or 3 starts out of 5... they don't like it , okey that's cool , they dont have to love it. . Now, having both cars on table , assuming same money (running costs aside) - would you really go for 335d over S8?? Man , I was driving 330d for long time as we both got ours at virtually same time but let me tell you this sir - comparing both is an insult to S8

this is a proper review done by someone who actually driven the car

Horses for courses - I am doing 10kmpa , running cost are half of what i am paying for Maser and was looking for sleeper which can toast 911 from traffic lights

But that is an American review, if you stuck a large engine on a dog turd they would like it

[teaston]

Originally Posted by ciscopete822

fair enough , I got you dude but then do you really buy a car based on someone else review / opinion? People will have different expectations , habits , needs and so on. I read both of them and they contradicts with my impressions. It is not like I am getting excited because I temporarily own expensive car. I do have a Maserati which is a proper WOW car. I had driven number of performance cars , and based on experience I am saying S8 is something special. Those dudes giving 2 or 3 starts out of 5... they don't like it , okey that's cool , they dont have to love it. . Now, having both cars on table , assuming same money (running costs aside) - would you really go for 335d over S8?? Man , I was driving 330d for long time as we both got ours at virtually same time but let me tell you this sir - comparing both is an insult to S8

this is a proper review done by someone who actually driven the car

Horses for courses - I am doing 10kmpa , running cost are half of what i am paying for Maser and was looking for sleeper which can toast 911 from traffic lights

I do 20kmpa, virtually none of which is on motorways, & I want something fun for the country B roads, so they're the main reasons the S8 wouldn't be for me.

If I could get an M550d for £500pm now that would be something!!

[Rbrown]

Great review and great looking car!

Sounds like a bargain! Enjoy!

[bodtwo]

Anyone remember Ronin?

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by bodtwo

Anyone remember Ronin?

Yes, the best car chase movie of all time surely?

An AWD saloon has to be the best get away car there is I'd agree. I think the transporter reboot uses an S8 too, though apparently with the front driveshafts disconnected so that they could get it to handle like a BMW!

[ciscopete822]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Yes, the best car chase movie of all time surely?

An AWD saloon has to be the best get away car there is I'd agree. I think the transporter reboot uses an S8 too, though apparently with the front driveshafts disconnected so that they could get it to handle like a BMW!

nope , they used dynamic camera system and computer rendering to get it look like it handles like Beemer

Btw - I got 3 points on my license yesterday evening. Thank you Active Noise Cancelling , acoustic windows and auto-dimming mirrors , apparently they have been chasing me for like 3 miles.

[ciscopete822]

Originally Posted by teaston

I do 20kmpa, virtually none of which is on motorways, & I want something fun for the country B roads, so they're the main reasons the S8 wouldn't be for me.

If I could get an M550d for £500pm now that would be something!!

Do you really want 4wd , nose heavy , diesel car to have fun on the country B roads ??

I don't believe I am going to say it but:

"Lord, please bring NTG back"

[NISFAN]

Stunning deal there ciscopete, enjoy.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by bodtwo

Anyone remember Ronin?

Yes but for me the best chase involved the e34 m5 through Paris, and of course the rocket launcher through the sunroof on the 450sel 6.9!

[ciscopete822]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Yes but for me the best chase involved the e34 m5 through Paris, and of course the rocket launcher through the sunroof on the 450sel 6.9!

[xenon]

Great car. What was the deposit on the plan?

[ciscopete822]

Originally Posted by xenon

Great car. What was the deposit on the plan?

3k

[xenon]

Wow, brilliant deal.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by ciscopete822

Do you really want 4wd , nose heavy , diesel car to have fun on the country B roads ??

I don't believe I am going to say it but:

"Lord, please bring NTG back"

Diesel, definitely! I could never go back to the low torque of a petrol engine now.

4wd, not sure yet!

Actually an M440d GC would be my ideal car!

[simon.]

Wow. Be silly not to take them up on that deal, nice one OP

[ciscopete822]

just a word of caution - stay away from Vehicles 4 Business! http://www.vehiclesforbusiness.co.uk/

[DazC]

Originally Posted by ciscopete822

just a word of caution - stay away from Vehicles 4 Business! http://www.vehiclesforbusiness.co.uk/

How so?

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by teaston

Diesel, definitely! I could never go back to the low torque of a petrol engine now.

4wd, not sure yet!

Actually an M440d GC would be my ideal car!

Plenty of petrol cars have huge amounts of torque and hold on to it for most of the rev range unlike diesels that only give you a 750-1250rpm max torque window.

I get the economic reasons for diesel, but the modern turbo petrol engines like the 4.0V8 TT in the S8 are immense 480ft/lb from 1700rpm all the way to 5000rpm.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Plenty of petrol cars have huge amounts of torque and hold on to it for most of the rev range unlike diesels that only give you a 750-1250rpm max torque window.

I get the economic reasons for diesel, but the modern turbo petrol engines like the 4.0V8 TT in the S8 are immense 480ft/lb from 1700rpm all the way to 5000rpm.

I'm talking in like for like fuel economy. A petrol that does similar mpg to a 35d or 40d will have very little torque!

[Chris93]

WOW! that is a car, bet it goes like stink

[ciscopete822]

Originally Posted by teaston

I'm talking in like for like fuel economy. A petrol that does similar mpg to a 35d or 40d will have very little torque!

No one here is saying that diesel is bad , well maybe except for NTG , especially BMW units are spectacular (3.0 and above) but quite frankly , diesels exist purely for economy reasons not for thrills and enjoyment. I had new M5 for few days , now driving S8 - you put your foot down and there is no hesitation really , it goes like crazy until 7/8k revs. This is what I am missing driving diesel.

You made a valid point , in order to get similar performance form petrol engine - it needs to be big and have turbos strapped to it and then there are fuel and maintenance costs associated with it. That being said I am truly surprised with S8 engine performance/economy ratio - to the point where I am considering commuting to London on daily basis (average 25 mpg)

[teaston]

Originally Posted by ciscopete822

No one here is saying that diesel is bad , well maybe except for NTG , especially BMW units are spectacular (3.0 and above) but quite frankly , diesels exists purely for economy reasons not for thrills and enjoyment. I had new M5 for few days , now driving S8 - you put your foot down and there is no hesitation really , it goes like crazy until 7/8k revs. That is what I am missing driving diesel.

You made a valid point , in order to get similar performance form petrol engine - it needs to be big and have turbos strapped to it and then there are fuel and maintenance costs associated with it. That being said I ma truly surprised with S8 engine to the point where I am considering commuting to London on daily basis (average 25 mpg)

I suppose 25mpg isn't too bad, especially with the price of petrol currently! My old E46 330ci used to average 25mpg & it had less than half the bhp & weighed about half a ton less than the S8!