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Let see another enthusiast post their numbers and enjoy the cars for what they are, and I wish you nothing but luck but this is redundant. Troll elsewhere |
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No they aren’t, no they don’t. Dynojets cane be loaded and are some of the most precise dyno out there. |
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As I have said since my first post - dyno's are just a tool for before mods (baseline) and after. MPH at the track is all the info anyone needs. Good luck with your car. Last edited by vtknight; 03-25-2018 at 10:19 AM.. |
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They are a tool - that is it. As long as the tool is used correctly. Last edited by vtknight; 03-25-2018 at 10:22 AM.. |
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03-25-2018, 11:33 AM | #142 |
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I am sure the F90 makes more power. I drove behind this car for 100 miles over the weekend and it surely is as fast or faster than a stock F10.
Having said that don’t equate the higher 1/4 mph compared to the F10 to significantly more power. AWD makes a huge difference in those measurements. Having a 2.1s 60-foot vs a 1.7 60-foot all else being equal makes a HUGE difference on ET and MPH. The best test for power comparison would be a rolling race. Take the 991tt’s - they arnt that high powered but post very quick 1/4 mile and relatively high MPH as well... it’s the ability to put the power down. We will shortly have 1/2 mile results on the F90 and that would be the best indicator of actual horsepower! |
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03-25-2018, 02:34 PM | #146 |
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If you hook better and not spin on shifts etc. your traps can increase as well. That blends out on a 1/2 mile....
On the high power RWD cars we tend to feather the throttle gears 1-3 until the tires can grab. On the right tire and a prepped track I have done a 1.57 60’ and 0-60 on 2.5s in a RWD M5, so I am sure the F90 will drop some nice numbers. |
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03-25-2018, 03:31 PM | #147 | |
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You are also that 1/2 mile evens all of that out - which will be the ultimate test. My guess is the car should go 155-160 MPH depending on how this car is tuned for top end. I definitely agree a tire will help of course - I wonder though how the axles and diffs will respond to it. I would by worried about bouncing or in some cases worse - a dead hook. I will of course take this car to the track - but I don't think I will add a tire - maybe a Toyo R888 - but no legit DR's. If the trap soeeds stay consistent like the magazine tests - 127+ with a 1.6-low 1.7 60' (my last AWD E63S was 1.8x stock - as is my M550ix) - I think you will see a 10.6-10.7 run. Which is pretty amazing for a 4300+ lb four door - 16 foot - luxury GT car lol. |
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Could you give some comparables on this same Dyno?
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I understand the "purpose" of breaking in a car, but that does not mean that the manufacturer forces such tactics upon you. Again, the same non-fact based argument was had with the F80s and I can assure you that at least from my butt dyno and my roommate with a stopwatch that the car was making the same pulls before and after the "break-in" service. I also asked the techs about it and they said that was basically just a weird myth as well (granted we can agree they don't always know the whole truth either). If you don't have a basis for these assumptions, I'd kindly ask that you stop spreading "non-proven beliefs" as "facts," as its really misleading for people on here. As harmless as this instance may be its still not good to go purporting fake truths as if they are etched in stone somewhere in an underground chapel in Germany somewhere.
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I honestly don't think there is much to debate. In most ways we are saying the same thing. You have the WR for an F10 - 9.9 at 142.5 MPH - which is always difficult - being the first to push limits. I have some drags experience over the past few decades myself.
In the end - there is a lot of testing and tuning to come for others (not me) - and testing bone stock. It is a stout platform and I think it has a lot of potential. |
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