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      01-27-2021, 04:30 PM   #221
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Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say that there is no market for the M5CS. I just went on BMWUSA.com and built a M8GC and got the MSRP up to $162k. Even with all those options, I'd pick the M5CS every day of the week (and it's $20k cheaper).
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      01-27-2021, 04:33 PM   #222
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Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say that there is no market for the M5CS. I just went on BMWUSA.com and built a M8GC and got the MSRP up to $162k. Even with all those options, I'd pick the M5CS every day of the week (and it's $20k cheaper).
Yes not even a close match vs the M8. Many of us have already written off the M8 since it’s not better than the M5 in any significant way while being worse in some as practicality and space. Just more expensive.
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      01-27-2021, 04:49 PM   #223
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If we consider that the car has CCBs the price is actually very good, I would think $130k M5C cars aren’t unheard of. For me the hurdle is not about value but the dollar amount breaking the budget.
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Ppl: Why no special model BMW ?!??

Ppl after BMW releases special model: Why special model not like regular model ??!?

Close freaking thread.
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Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say that there is no market for the M5CS. I just went on BMWUSA.com and built a M8GC and got the MSRP up to $162k. Even with all those options, I'd pick the M5CS every day of the week (and it's $20k cheaper).
Yes not even a close match vs the M8. Many of us have already written off the M8 since it's not better than the M5 in any significant way. Just more expensive.
I don't think the M8 GC is about being better in metrics like 0-60 or lap times. It's about giving the owner and occupants an experience of class and refinement. Kind of like eating at a burger joint or at a fancy restaurant. Both places will provide food and fill your stomach. But the experience is different. More people eat at the burger joint than at the exclusive restaurants. But thankfully both places exist.

I have a F06 GranCoupe and used to have a F10. The F10 had more interior space, more headroom and a way more useable rear seat. And yet the GC is longer both in length and wheelbase than the F10. But the design of the GC and the feeling of wellbeing and being cocooned in a special cabin I get everytime I drive the car is far beyond what the F10 did for me. Even being chaufeured in the back seat with my misses while drinking champagne is a special occasion in that car.

For many the above is just not important in a car and the sacrifices you have to live with over a 5-series isn't worth it. I totally understand that.

Back to topic on the awrsome M5 CS 😉
So much want!!!!
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      01-27-2021, 07:59 PM   #227
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At first I thought the $142k was a lot, but after adding every standard feature of the CS to a Comp they are are the same price.

BMW is actually not charging you more for the design/aero updates, 4 seater configuration, minimal hp bump
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I like it... but who is the target customer for a 5 series w bucket seats?
It's for folks who are bored with the M3 and need a little more comfortable/bigger car. They probably own a Porsche/Ferrari as a weekend car as well.
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It's funny, back in the day, I added some yellow JDM-like PIAA bulbs to my brand-new 135i angel eyes corona rings because it didn't come with white LEDs lights stock, like then higher-tier BMWs did at the time..

Now, the same concept is being practiced in reverse, where the new fad will be yellow running lights to distinguish from the lower-tier vehicles..

Which, surprisingly, yellow running lights are indeed legal here in the United States, despise our wonky automotive lighting rules. So expect this hue be plastered on every other new BMW headlight, coming down the pipeline..


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I don’t like the yellow at all - it reminds me of low output halogens.
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FYI, you can download all the press pictures without the watermarks here: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...-new-bmw-m5-cs
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You do know the ZL1 1LEs, R8 V10+s, GT 500s etc are in the 3700 lbs to 4000 lbs range. Most performance car are just heavy. Unless you start dropping 300k for 720s. This is where we are.
Doesn’t this thing way way more than 4,000 pounds?

Isn’t that the supposed weight of the new AWD M3/4?

Not discounting what you’re saying, just that I thought this thing was in a whole different area code for weight.

I’m also not suggesting this car cannot be tracked. I’m just saying that there’s so many other cars I would expect to see double duty before this one. I’m sure it’s insanely fast in a straight line - but I am not convinced it would be fun or effective in the corners....
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It's funny, back in the day, I added some yellow JDM-like PIAA bulbs to my brand-new 135i angel eyes corona rings because it didn't come with white LEDs lights stock, like then higher-tier BMWs did at the time..

Now, the same concept is being practiced in reverse, where the new fad will be yellow running lights to distinguish from the lower-tier vehicles..

Which, surprisingly, yellow running lights are indeed legal here in the United States, despise our wonky automotive lighting rules. So expect this hue be plastered on every other new BMW headlight, coming down the pipeline..


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I don't like the yellow at all - it reminds me of low output halogens.
You think so, I find that LED yellow has a more vibrant look, than the bland incandescent halogen of yesteryear.

And from what I understand, the US-spec cars will have a more sublet hue of yellow than that of our ROW counterparts.

So it would be somewhere in-between "Halogen bulb to Midday Sunlight":


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I'm in love with this M5 CS. So much attention to detail (most have already been discussed in previous posts). Truly an aspirational car and a great brand ambassador. They also did an incredible job with the official launch video!

I love how they put an ISOFIX anchor for child seats in each of the rear bucket seats as well for everyday use.
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It's funny, back in the day, I added some yellow JDM-like PIAA bulbs to my brand-new 135i angel eyes corona rings because it didn't come with white LEDs lights stock, like then higher-tier BMWs did at the time..

Now, the same concept is being practiced in reverse, where the new fad will be yellow running lights to distinguish from the lower-tier vehicles..

Which, surprisingly, yellow running lights are indeed legal here in the United States, despise our wonky automotive lighting rules. So expect this hue be plastered on every other new BMW headlight, coming down the pipeline..


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I don't like the yellow at all - it reminds me of low output halogens.
They are more yellow than halogen lights and for people that have been following motorsport/GT racing the reference is quite obvious 😉
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You do know the ZL1 1LEs, R8 V10+s, GT 500s etc are in the 3700 lbs to 4000 lbs range. Most performance car are just heavy. Unless you start dropping 300k for 720s. This is where we are.
Doesn't this thing way way more than 4,000 pounds?

Isn't that the supposed weight of the new AWD M3/4?

Not discounting what you're saying, just that I thought this thing was in a whole different area code for weight.

I'm also not suggesting this car cannot be tracked. I'm just saying that there's so many other cars I would expect to see double duty before this one. I'm sure it's insanely fast in a straight line - but I am not convinced it would be fun or effective in the corners....
According to the TT of the F90, curb weight is 4372 .lbs. I don't feel the weight at all. Still very athletic. Great sleeper. People think it's a boat. It's not.
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Find it so funny that the latest greatest Huracan who gets rave reviews with 1 little nitpick is that you can't have a custom drive mode, It's like they have everything, na V10, emotion, quality but they miss that one little thing that becomes an annoyance for all your ownership experience haha
My neighbour bought a an EVO RWD last week.
The sound is sick but:
I don't know why can't see myself driving a car which shares the same engine platform with a R8. Lambo should develop their own motorblocks..
Same story with URUS.
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So is this a taster for the G80M3CS at around U.K. £100k and 4 seats.

Would be nice.
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Since weight is such an issue here. Are you guys 5’3” @ 135 lbs? Most drivers will add 200 lbs, with their “M” driving watch, cell phone, drinks, AARP card, meds, M caps, radar detectors, leather wallet, weapon, Red Bull and other items. Why are some clinging to this not enough weight loss “false flag.”
Lol don't forget the ///M key ring..
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I actually love this car. Love the rear seats. Looks pretty good for a 4 door sedan and is quite fast.

In terms of driving, that's still up in the air.

I would consider buying one if it weren't for the steptronic that they're forcing down our throats. I'd take one with a PDK equivalent or manual.

I don't see anyone actually tracking this car.

Now if they can just fix the G80, the world would be right again.
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