help me pick which m3 e92 supercharger

[Cal@Sonic MS]

Don't forget VFE. It'll be releasing officially this upcoming MFEST.

[J08M3]

these threads are for pure entertainment only.... nothing but people saying buy this one cause I own it, or people with zero experience just jumping on the bandwagon of their favorite tuner

If you want any help at all I suggest speaking to an independent shop that has experience installing more than one companies S/C

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by J08M3

these threads are for pure entertainment only.... nothing but people saying buy this one cause I own it, or people with zero experience just jumping on the bandwagon of their favorite tuner

If you want any help at all I suggest speaking to an independent shop that has experience installing more than one companies S/C

I think just about every "what is the best" thread has some hyperbole and tuner cheerleading, regardless of the product, but you can still find valuable info, otherwise what's the point of the forums?

Currently I'd say you would be hard pressed to find an independent shop that has installed all the kits and frankly I'm not sure how much they even follow the owners thoughts / results on the kits, or how you could call them "independent" or impartial to begin with. Most of these shops are no different than enthusiasts, they have their favorites/bias too and their opinion is probably more based on how much money they can make than rather than what kit might be the best choice.

[UNNATRAL]

Originally Posted by Ryboy98

LOL, one Gintani kit? I think you looked at the first page and didn't
look at the updated lists as the pages go on. I think there are at least 20 Gintani kits out +\-

I have been happy with my Gintani kit and I'm running the 2+ kit. I think some of you are missing the fact that no one has had a problem with any of the kits without meth regardless of the brand. I have been away for a while from the boards but it seems as if everyone is hostile towards Gintani now. From what I have been reading I'm sure I'm going be called some names and be flamed for owning this kit here but, my personal experience with the kit and company has been good. Many of you say horrible things about companies other than ESS but have no first hand experience with them. Id never say the ESS kit or the AA kits are horrible because personally I don't know. But my opinions on them are they are good kits. I eventually chose the Gintani kit because I had the catless x and race exhaust already and was pleased with their product and cs.

It sounds like the OP is not interested in pushing the limit of the engine just a reliable increase in hp. So I would just advise him to stay away from the methanol and he'd be pretty safe with any of them. As far as i know ,and you can search for history, i dont think anyone has had problems other than with methanol.

I'd suggest you call each company and speak with them and go with who you feel comfortable. I really don't think it is a go idea to go off of forum member's posts especially if they have no experience with any of the companies. It's like some one telling you not to buy an M3 because they read on the forums they had lots of electrical quirks and yet they drive a corolla and never owned an M. Different than if you talk to someone and they say, "I've had an M3 and it was horrible! Too many problems with the electrical system"

Those of you who know me from before know how I feel about things and my philosophy and why it is that way. I don't think it's right to say negative things about a product especially if I have no first hand experience with it and I've only read others opinions. Based on my experience I can recommend the Gintani kit as good quality and performing as I like. If you want to really be safe go with one of the stage 1 or stage 2 kits.

Damn this is way too long. Sorry people, it's probably in everyone's best interest that I've been away from the forums. peace!

i have nothing against gintani, im just saying that they havent sold as many kits as ESS and im not being a fanboy, you cant deny facts. they are all priced the same and put out about the same power, what makes a company better than another is the way they tune/use the boost they have/how much boost they run. not how much power they can pull out of the motor, but how much they can pull out SAFELY. I would rather have 550rwhp and know my engine is fine and not in the danger zone than have 600rwhp and pray that my motor doesnt blow. not pointing any fingers, just stating MY philosophy

[Ryboy98]

Originally Posted by UNNATRAL

i have nothing against gintani, im just saying that they havent sold as many kits as ESS and im not being a fanboy, you cant deny facts. they are all priced the same and put out about the same power, what makes a company better than another is the way they tune/use the boost they have/how much boost they run. not how much power they can pull out of the motor, but how much they can pull out SAFELY. I would rather have 550rwhp and know my engine is fine and not in the danger zone than have 600rwhp and pray that my motor doesnt blow. not pointing any fingers, just stating MY philosophy

I'm not disagreeing with you either, It's clear that ESS has sold more kits than Gintani, I was just pointing out that they sold more than 1. haha

And I certainly never have called anyone a fanboy of anything just so we are ok on that. Also my point is just because a company has sold more of a product than their competitor is by no means a definite sign that their product is better. Now just to clarify before anyone gets hot, in that last sentence I'm not talking about ESS vs Gintani vs AA or anyone else. I'm simply stating a general statement. For example iphone sales are far more than droid, but does that make it a better smart phone? Many would say no (mostly droid users haha) but apple has a great marketing scheme and a good product, does that make Motorola a bad company that puts out an inferior product?

Also, who's to say 550rwhp is safe? That is all of our opinions? I'm sure the designers and engineers who put there blood, sweat and pride into these motors could give you definitive proof either way but NONE of us are one of them. Sure there is over engineering that goes into the engine but truth is when any of us ask more of the engine than what it is specified we are shortening the life span of the engine. It would just seem logical that the more you get out of it the shorter the theoretical lifespan of the motor. Also the driving style of the individual you have to take into consideration. If you have a 550whp motor and drive it like you stole it everyday all day then I bet that it would not last as long as a say 600whp motor that is driven like a prius. Now I know what you are thinking, why would anyone S/C their car to 600whp and not use it? Well that's up to the owner of the car how they want to use it. There are 1800hp hot rods and show cars that never see the street or track and there are some that are at the drag strip every other night.

Which goes back to my original point to the OP, all of the companies make kits that are considered to be "safe" by the general census of this community. It is up to him/her to contact them each and go with which one they feel most comfortable with. If they stay in the safe zone then it really is a matter of which company makes them feel comfortable. Shouldn't be because someone said "AA sucks" or "Gintani bites" or "ESS is crap". Or even throw in VFE now and G-power. I will say that on the G-power kit I didn't like the fact that the metal above the radiator had to be cut for the air tunnels. But I think I read somewhere that someone was able to install one with some modifications so they didn't have to cut that. I don't remember what modifications they had to do though, but I don't think it was a "quick fix" I think brackets had to be made and intercooler repositioned. I don't know I could be completely wrong. Sorry.

[Eugene-TAIWAN]

I've had the Gpower kit and now I'm running a low boost (9psi) built motor

I like my set up right now! I drive me car everyday to work screaming down the highway.

I like the service of Gintani.

I think ESS is also a good kit. It has less wires because the supercharger uses an internal oil for cooling. but some of hoses are a little bit too thin for my taste (not heavy duty) .

AA kit has a the sickest manifold for sure! haven't studied it too much but I'm sure its solid.

[m33]

Originally Posted by Eugene-TAIWAN

I've had the Gpower kit and now I'm running a low boost (9psi) built motor

I like my set up right now! I drive me car everyday to work screaming down the highway.

I like the service of Gintani.

I think ESS is also a good kit. It has less wires because the supercharger uses an internal oil for cooling. but some of hoses are a little bit too thin for my taste (not heavy duty) .

AA kit has a the sickest manifold for sure! haven't studied it too much but I'm sure its solid.

Any 60-130 runs in that bad boy ?

[Eugene-TAIWAN]

Originally Posted by m33

Any 60-130 runs in that bad boy ?

Not yet! I just had mynew born son, so I'm super busy with that.

but I did dyno the car.. and I think i Taiwan's gas quality is not that great so I only make 524rwhp on a dyna-pack here in taiwan.

I use meth-just to cool the engine down. Its crazy hot in South east asia.

but I will update for sure Buddy!

[m33]

Originally Posted by Eugene-TAIWAN

Not yet! I just had mynew born son, so I'm super busy with that.

but I did dyno the car.. and I think i Taiwan's gas quality is not that great so I only make 524rwhp on a dyna-pack here in taiwan.

I use meth-just to cool the engine down. Its crazy hot in South east asia.

but I will update for sure Buddy!

Congrats on the new born buddy ( God Bless )

[Eugene-TAIWAN]

Originally Posted by Arthur

G-Power FTW!

I'm selling mine

[Eugene-TAIWAN]

Originally Posted by m33

Congrats on the new born buddy ( God Bless )

thanks Buddy

[donovan]

ESS just because of there amazing products from the e46 m3 as well...and they are european :P

Reference:
http://www.esstuning.com/pages/About-us.html

[Arthur]

Originally Posted by Eugene-TAIWAN

I'm selling mine

And why is that?

[Eugene-TAIWAN]

Originally Posted by Arthur

And why is that?

because I have a new set up on my car! I have a Gintani Stage 3 low boost right now.

[Arthur]

Originally Posted by Eugene-TAIWAN

because I have a new set up on my car! I have a Gintani Stage 3 low boost right now.

= FAIL

[atalladega]

Originally Posted by Arthur

= FAIL

LOL! This from ye who drives an S8, = fail! LOL, what kit do you have?

[akh23456]

Originally Posted by atalladega

LOL! This from ye who drives an S8, = fail! LOL

+1

[StevOm3]

if anyones selling a sc kit pm me please...

[erm324]

Do yourself a favor and get an ESS kit, great power (makes most power per psi of boost from what I've seen), quiet under the hood, best looking, and RELIABLE.

[StevOm3]

has anyone got a 20 percent off or better.wholesale to local shop for the ess?

[Bart@AUTOcouture]

When you ready for your ESS install, give me a call, we're ESS's east coast installer

[StevOm3]

im ready!!!!
i also need my kw v3s installed and i need an exhaust which do u guys recommend best fits with the ess kit but still keeps that m high pitch amazing sound.
Alsooo
i really need your guys help choosing stage 1,2 or 2+
considering its an everyday driver..
i do drive like a total maniac .. thank you valentine 1
i reallly dont want to end up in a huge hole and out of warranty..
but neeeeed powerr!! asapp!!!
question is!

IS STAGE 1 ENOUGH!???