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I've read all the reviews and most say that the steering is lighter and offer more feel/feedback than the previous generation so maybe C and D are very picky...
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I'm all for manual transmissions but in this segment manuals transmissions aren't suitable. You have a 4,000 pound luxury sedan with all kinds of electronic gadgets and differentials. If I'm driving this boat it better damn well shift itself.
After reading about it I think I would rather save $40-50k and buy a CPO '16 M5 comp package. |
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Car and Driver calls the F10 a double clutch automatic. I laugh because most of the people crying about an auto cannot explain the difference in functionality between the double clutch and an automatic. Apparently the writers on this review just put both terms together and don't realize it themselves. I am excited to drive the car personally. The X5M/X6M does drive very clutch to a DCT from a shift quality standpoint and most consumers can't tell difference.
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05-16-2017, 10:19 PM | #52 | |
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It's hard no doubt, but possible. And I don't believe for a second they will do it. I wasn't in the market anyway, too much of a whale anyway.
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Let's be honest, anyone intentionally going into 2WD mode isn't really planning on making any use of any traction control system, are they?
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Fully agree and I think we might be OK for the most part there as you can clearly see the radar on the front grill. Active Cruise Control wasn't an option on the F10 M5. Unless of course this is because it's not got the final front of the car and it doesn't do anything on the test cars but I'm quietly hopeful. |
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If Motor Trend weighs in a new awd M5 less than the 2013 M5 comp pack they weighed in at 4,369...I will be surprised. I just don't see that happening. |
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I am by no means a M purist, but frankly I just don't get this car.
If they wanted to compete with Porsche and Mercedes for sport line awd executive cars why not just offer a choice of xdrive or RWD. This certainly had to be less expensive than the engineering effort required to create this drive train. Plus it would probably still allow for a DCT and or Manual. It looks like its the end of the road for RWD beefed up German executive saloons. |
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More road noise, worse fuel consumption. |
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As the current owner of an E28, E34, E60 and F10 M5 and an E63s Mercedes wagon - the move to AWD/gimmicky 2WD mode and the inclusion of a traditional autobox really makes me think M is headed in the wrong direction. The M5 always distinguished itself as the only car in its class with a manual/smg/dct. It was different than anything else on the road. Now - it's just one the boys. Sure - they will pick up customers in cold weather regions with AWD which I have no problem with - they are a business. However - dropping the DCT just sickens me. This also means the next M3/M4 is going to go the same route. Sad.
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The lack of DCT/Manual seems to show that BMW is not willing to invest developing/sourcing a transmission capable of handling that much power. Especially with a manual since the take rate is so low. I'd be curious to see how many people complained if they drove this and an F10 DCT back to back. None of the reviews posted so far seem to be missing the DCT. |
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