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This is indeed an enthusiast's forum... for a vehicle that's only been out a year. This is how long it takes. I think it's fair to say our expectations of these forums differ wildly. |
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Not too shabby, And of course you're referencing Map 7
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Noted, but can't seem to find a lot of data SEA LEVEL
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I don't know why people expect anything. New platform modding takes time - and if the info isn't good enough here - go elsewhere and find (or create) more and bring it back to us to benefit the community instead of complaining you are having to look too hard. |
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02-12-2019, 06:20 PM | #54 |
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Sorry, I disagree. For example, I would just point to the thread that attempts to directly compare RC, JB4 and BMS. It's surprising to me that, for example, not only is there conflicting information in the thread itself but there are in some cases no reliable information even available from the manufacturer! Is this expectation unreasonable? You are welcome to think it is, I do not.
Furthermore, regarding posts from people in the industry with dyno access...it is not a matter of me demanding information but rather that I'm surprised this is not more widely, publicly discussed by industry insiders. Thank you though for taking the time to point out that you think my expectations are out of line I appreciate your contribution to the topic.
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Thats because you are constantly under water.
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Sorry I was being a smart ass and you know Im very good at that.
The data on RC has been posted more in the tuning section than the VS section where we are right now... onfireX5 Miko M and a few others that are just members and not sellers have posted their draggys and onfire has gone even further with multiple posts about "deltas" and whats meaningful. Im just sometimes confused as to your posts since you ALREADY have the product. Pardon my bluntness- no offense intended sir.
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I was just curious to see a side by side comparison Race Chip : M5C : JB4 That's all I can see why you would wonder why am I doing this boredom? LOL I'm gonna watch this Ray Romano new Netflix special and I should feel better HahaHaha
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ok now im just scared
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I was just curious to see a side by side comparison Race Chip : M5C : JB4 That's all I can see why you would wonder why am I doing this boredom? LOL I'm gonna watch this Ray Romano new Netflix special and I should feel better HahaHaha
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I wish I could done more pulls to have more data. Most of mine pulls were done in late October I run out off time because off winter tires swap.
I noticed that on map 7 tires were spinning like crazy ....one big factor was cooler temperature 45F-50F Did many pulls but the best was 11.3 for 1/4 mil Not long after I end up putting winter tires and end up having better results 11.18 Lol I really wish I could done this at 70-80F temperature and stickier and wider tires. On Map 7 with more boost is really lighting up those stock tires
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To complicate matters, various members have themselves posted numbers which are wildly inconsistent. In fact, I have seen the same member post radically different numbers even the same thread which not only makes little sense but just further confuses what should not be a very complicated thing to suss out. You can be assured that if I had any real world experience with any of these tunes, I would publish my own personal experience in great detail in the hopes that it might help someone. In fact, I often share the experience I do have, such as it is, toward that end. To answer your question of why I am not collating this data myself, I'm not going to disseminate information that I can't verify and don't trust to begin with. To me, this all seems quite reasonable. If this somehow seems unreasonable to you, I'll respect your right to form your own opinion. But your disrespectful tone is uncalled for and certainly says more about you than the veracity of my opinions.
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"Pimpsy". I am going to answer your post inline, in RED.
Putting aside the somewhat rude tone Fair point - I find your tone whiny and entitled - unnecessarily soof your initial reply to my post, as an example, the numbers published by RC not only lack detail for various maps and settings but apparently are far, far off from real world experiences of various members. I have went over this already. These are beta tunes. The platform has not been out long enough yet to get enough data for consistent alpha products. This has happened for literally every platform. I am not sure if you are someone with experience modding, but if you were - you would know that. The "far far off" comment also makes me question your experience as DA, track, driver, car condition, tires and a few others makes consistent ET and MPH almost impossible to quantify - unless they are same day, track, driver, car and conditions. Some have called them out right lies, I will generously call them simply not accurate. I would call them incomplete. I still have no idea why you think the maturity of the product should be as high as you expect it. To complicate matters, various members have themselves posted numbers which are wildly inconsistent. In fact, I have seen the same member post radically different numbers even the same thread which not only makes little sense but just further confuses what should not be a very complicated thing to suss out. It makes total sense - please see variable explanation above. You can be assured that if I had any real world experience with any of these tunes, I would publish my own personal experience in great detail in the hopes that it might help someone. I would suggest more of the personal experience idea as it will help with some of your confusion. In fact, I often share the experience I do have, such as it is, toward that end. That is what community boards are for - to share information and help the community - usually by doing. Complaining about it - not so much. To answer your question of why I am not collating this data myself, I'm not going to disseminate information that I can't verify and don't trust to begin with. This makes no sense. At all. The ONLY way to disseminate information - that is trust worthy to you - is to do it yourself. DO some testing. GO to a track. Make some runs, both before and after a tune - same day if possible. Then you will know. You will not need to depend on any other source. As your variables for you will differ from others experiences. Now you may not want to do that - spend the money and time in order to provide that information to the community - and that is fine. Just don't complain about it - because no one owes you anything. To me, this all seems quite reasonable. If this somehow seems unreasonable to you, I'll respect your right to form your own opinion. But your disrespectful tone is uncalled for and certainly says more about you than the veracity of my opinions. I believe my opinions have helped to prove your opinions are flawed. Since opinions are subjective - we will likely never see eye to eye there. As to my tone - I can only state that whining and complaining when someone isn't producing anything of value themselves - is a sore spot for me. |
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