BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW M5 F90 (2018+) General Forums F90 M5 vs...    Porsche 991.2 Turbo S vs F90 M5

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-09-2019, 01:32 PM   #155
Quinn A
Second Lieutenant
122
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: 2016 M3
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic55 View Post
Not to mention a more reliable car.... with a 4/50k warranty vs a 3 year.
Understatement of the year.

Mclaren invited me to a local track day to try out the 720s and 570s on track. And i was allowed to bring my performante, and good thing that i did because both 720s had major component failures before lunch and 2 of the 3 570s didnt make it the remaining 5 hours either.

My close friend picked up a 720 at the same time i picked up my performante, i have put on over 8 times the miles since then and thats in large part due to him being towed back to the dealership undriveable 12 (yes 12) times in 8 months.

Another close friend has a 570S and after 7 months traded it in on the a 488 because it never made it a month between service visits.
__________________
2020 M8 SMB full boltons and tune
2022 CT5-V Blackwing
2019 GT3RS full headers exhaust and tune
2022 Cayenne Turbo coupe Catless/ Tune
2022 Huracan STO
Appreciate 1
vtknight966.50
      08-09-2019, 04:17 PM   #156
Jo-Sta07
Captain
Jo-Sta07's Avatar
474
Rep
687
Posts

Drives: Ferrari 458, BMW i8, Acura NSX
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Scottsdale/Pittsburgh

iTrader: (0)

Unfortunately it doesn't seem like Mclaren is getting any better in the QC department. They're so fast and capable, of they could sort that out it would be great.
Appreciate 0
      08-10-2019, 09:19 AM   #157
TTHURACAN
Banned
66
Rep
136
Posts

Drives: Lamborghini
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Huracan

iTrader: (0)

Quality will improve if a luxury german manufacturer buys them....
Appreciate 1
Jo-Sta07474.00
      08-10-2019, 10:19 AM   #158
Jo-Sta07
Captain
Jo-Sta07's Avatar
474
Rep
687
Posts

Drives: Ferrari 458, BMW i8, Acura NSX
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Scottsdale/Pittsburgh

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TTHURACAN View Post
Quality will improve if a luxury german manufacturer buys them....
BMW did supply the greatest engine to ever grace a Mclaren. Perhaps they should acquire. I'd love to get my McLaren serviced at my local BMW dealership (if I had a Mclaren).
Appreciate 1
kyrix1st2350.50
      08-10-2019, 12:40 PM   #159
frankchn
First Lieutenant
286
Rep
369
Posts

Drives: F90 M5
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by vtknight View Post
In Canada they are 75K apart in price. You can buy a 570S for about 25K less than a Turbo S. I wanted an all rounder - close to the top performance - and understated - so Turbo S for me .
Interesting. In the States, the 570S has basically the same starting MSRP as the Turbo S, which in my mind makes the Turbo S the default choice unless folks like the McLaren design.
Appreciate 0
      08-11-2019, 08:46 AM   #160
TTHURACAN
Banned
66
Rep
136
Posts

Drives: Lamborghini
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Huracan

iTrader: (0)

McLaren 570S/MSRP
From CAN$229000

From CAN$217,200
Porsche 911 Turbo S

From CAN$184,200
Porsche 911 Turbo
Appreciate 0
      08-11-2019, 12:51 PM   #161
kyrix1st
Colonel
kyrix1st's Avatar
2351
Rep
2,359
Posts

Drives: G87 M2; E92M3 MT&DCT; M3 euro
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: nyc

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2004 BMW Z4  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07 View Post
BMW did supply the greatest engine to ever grace a Mclaren. Perhaps they should acquire. I'd love to get my McLaren serviced at my local BMW dealership (if I had a Mclaren).
They actually brought F1 prototype to Japan but couldn't accurately measure the horsepower because it exceeded torque that every dyno in the country could take.
Ah the 90s..

__________________
Pass me if you can.
Appreciate 3
Jo-Sta07474.00
BwoodBMW1861.00
vtknight966.50
      08-11-2019, 09:51 PM   #162
vtknight
Major
vtknight's Avatar
967
Rep
1,080
Posts

Drives: 2019 F90 M5 Competition
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinn A View Post
Understatement of the year.

Mclaren invited me to a local track day to try out the 720s and 570s on track. And i was allowed to bring my performante, and good thing that i did because both 720s had major component failures before lunch and 2 of the 3 570s didnt make it the remaining 5 hours either.

My close friend picked up a 720 at the same time i picked up my performante, i have put on over 8 times the miles since then and thats in large part due to him being towed back to the dealership undriveable 12 (yes 12) times in 8 months.

Another close friend has a 570S and after 7 months traded it in on the a 488 because it never made it a month between service visits.
This has been my experience as well. A friend of mine was test driving a 720S - with the Sales Rep in the car - and the headliner went loose and flopped in front of his (and the SR's) heads while they were driving in traffic. There is a reason their values plummet like rocks - unfortunately.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jo-Sta07 View Post
Unfortunately it doesn't seem like Mclaren is getting any better in the QC department. They're so fast and capable, of they could sort that out it would be great.
I tell those here - that if a 720S was made well, didn't keep breaking versus letting me drive the car - and didn't cost so much to maintain - I would have likely went for it. There is nothing in its performance universe - stock at least. That said - it would have been a stretch cost-wise if the situation was they were well-made as I wouldn't be about to pick one up for about 100K less than msrp.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TTHURACAN View Post
McLaren 570S/MSRP
From CAN$229000

From CAN$217,200
Porsche 911 Turbo S

From CAN$184,200
Porsche 911 Turbo
These are real numbers of course - but there is something missing; options. My TTS only had about 17K in options - and the Turbo S comes pretty loaded. The Mclaren however - I priced out a 650S back in the day as well - can easily pile on 40-60K of upgrades.
Appreciate 0
      08-12-2019, 08:06 AM   #163
TTHURACAN
Banned
66
Rep
136
Posts

Drives: Lamborghini
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Huracan

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by vtknight View Post
This has been my experience as well. A friend of mine was test driving a 720S - with the Sales Rep in the car - and the headliner went loose and flopped in front of his (and the SR's) heads while they were driving in traffic. There is a reason their values plummet like rocks - unfortunately.



I tell those here - that if a 720S was made well, didn't keep breaking versus letting me drive the car - and didn't cost so much to maintain - I would have likely went for it. There is nothing in its performance universe - stock at least. That said - it would have been a stretch cost-wise if the situation was they were well-made as I wouldn't be about to pick one up for about 100K less than msrp.



These are real numbers of course - but there is something missing; options. My TTS only had about 17K in options - and the Turbo S comes pretty loaded. The Mclaren however - I priced out a 650S back in the day as well - can easily pile on 40-60K of upgrades.
Is 30K of that an ‘extended warranty’
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2019, 04:09 PM   #164
vtknight
Major
vtknight's Avatar
967
Rep
1,080
Posts

Drives: 2019 F90 M5 Competition
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TTHURACAN View Post
Is 30K of that an ‘extended warranty’
Lol - not for the Porsche - but the Mclaren may unfortunately need that...
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2019, 03:19 PM   #165
TTHURACAN
Banned
66
Rep
136
Posts

Drives: Lamborghini
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Huracan

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by vtknight View Post
Lol - not for the Porsche - but the Mclaren may unfortunately need that...
4Sure the Mclaren, most English car brands are unreliable including Land Rover, Jaguar, Austin-Healey, MG.... you get the picture... i normally don’t make this bold of a statement but have been around.... its too bad cause i know the 570s will hit 9s with just rubber/tune/exhaust.... i did not hear about reliability issues with the m838t motor, anyone on here have?
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2019, 09:53 AM   #166
limeypride
Brigadier General
limeypride's Avatar
United_States
4419
Rep
4,109
Posts

Drives: 2022 M8 Competition GC
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Orlando area, FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TTHURACAN View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by vtknight View Post
Lol - not for the Porsche - but the Mclaren may unfortunately need that...
4Sure the Mclaren, most English car brands are unreliable including Land Rover, Jaguar, Austin-Healey, MG.... you get the picture... i normally don't make this bold of a statement but have been around.... its too bad cause i know the 570s will hit 9s with just rubber/tune/exhaust.... i did not hear about reliability issues with the m838t motor, anyone on here have?
Hey now!

Appreciate 0
      10-26-2019, 04:26 PM   #167
Guram DSCOFF
New Member
32
Rep
19
Posts

Drives: BMW M5 Competition (F90)
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Moscow

iTrader: (0)

My 800+ HP BMW M5 Competition (F90) vs stock Porsche 911 Turbo S (991.2) vs stock Audi R8 V10 Plus


Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:16 PM.




m5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST