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      01-18-2019, 06:23 PM   #1
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I'm going to have to go ahead and say this is driver error on the Huracan's part. A stock F90 M5 is not beating a Huracan optimally driven.

With a tune and bolt ons for the F90 - that is a different story - but not stock.

Stock Huracan's range in the 10.5-10.7's on average at 131+ MPH. There have been slightly slower and slightly quicker.

The F90 won here - but if both are stock - not because it was quicker and faster than the Huracan. Just the driver and car setup.
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I'm going to have to go ahead and say this is driver error on the Huracan's part. A stock F90 M5 is not beating a Huracan optimally driven.

With a tune and bolt ons for the F90 - that is a different story - but not stock.

Stock Huracan's range in the 10.5-10.7's on average at 131+ MPH. There have been slightly slower and slightly quicker.

The F90 won here - but if both are stock - not because it was quicker and faster than the Huracan. Just the driver and car setup.
Could have been a modded F90. Unfortunately I don't know either driver. Just saw the video on a friend's insta.
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Seriously......they'd be coming past at about 130mph or so and could definitely move a foot sideways due to a number of factors. Standing there isn't smart!
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First Edition car- modded for sure as there is no way my M5 would have beat my sadly departed Huracan. Or as vtknight stated: driver error.
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Could have been a modded F90. Unfortunately I don't know either driver. Just saw the video on a friend's insta.
The F90 being modded is a possibility too. Again - as much as I am an owner and fan - a stock F90 cannot beat a Huracan in a dig race to the 1/4 mile unless the Huracan was poorly setup/working and driven.
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The F90 being modded is a possibility too. Again - as much as I am an owner and fan - a stock F90 cannot beat a Huracan in a dig race to the 1/4 mile unless the Huracan was poorly setup/working and driven.
Yeah the H car is just too light with even more stock hp... it does have a steep tq curve though and you need to rev the baby up a bit. Oh and it sounds like a fucking dream with that V10. The days of 600 hp n/a cars are dwindling.

The F90 kills it in comfort and practicality though- I always felt I could not see well in the H car. The roof line was so low that if I was the first car at the light I could not even see the signal if it was above LOL.
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Vic how do you like your nsx?
What Vic got an NSX? Nice.
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What Vic got an NSX? Nice.
I am very interested in Vic's assessment of the NSX...I have been watching this car. There is talk of an R. Some of my friends say its awesome. Reviews have been mixed. I trust those who have driven it - versus opinion.
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Yeah the H car is just too light with even more stock hp... it does have a steep tq curve though and you need to rev the baby up a bit. Oh and it sounds like a fucking dream with that V10. The days of 600 hp n/a cars are dwindling.

The F90 kills it in comfort and practicality though- I always felt I could not see well in the H car. The roof line was so low that if I was the first car at the light I could not even see the signal if it was above LOL.
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I am very interested in Vic's assessment of the NSX...I have been watching this car. There is talk of an R. Some of my friends say its awesome. Reviews have been mixed. I trust those who have driven it - versus opinion.
I owned one. Not that special, great value for 115k-120k. I'd rather pony up another 5-10k and get an 17' R8 V10 ANY DAY.

It drives nice, and is comfortable. It's F10 M5 (maybe with stage 1 tune) levels of acceleration (in my opinion maybe 1-2mph faster in 1/4 mile trap). Launching is very strong. Transmission is very good. Car lacks some REALLY basic touches that car in that segment SHOULD have (primarily fit n' finish). Looks great in front, no front axle lift so get ready to destroy the front end if you live in an area with road work or a lot of dips. Back looks ehh. The speed is good, but it sounds like a non-nasal GTR mixed with G35.


Also I have a R8 V10 Plus - I've driven an F90 M5. The R8 will win the race (exactly the same car as LP610).
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I owned one. Not that special, great value for 115k-120k. I'd rather pony up another 5-10k and get an 17' R8 V10 ANY DAY.

It drives nice, and is comfortable. It's F10 M5 (maybe with stage 1 tune) levels of acceleration (in my opinion maybe 1-2mph faster in 1/4 mile trap). Launching is very strong. Transmission is very good. Car lacks some REALLY basic touches that car in that segment SHOULD have (primarily fit n' finish). Looks great in front, no front axle lift so get ready to destroy the front end if you live in an area with road work or a lot of dips. Back looks ehh. The speed is good, but it sounds like a non-nasal GTR mixed with G35.


Also I have a R8 V10 Plus - I've driven an F90 M5. The R8 will win the race (exactly the same car as LP610).
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Your butt dyno is pretty good lol. I have seen 10.8 at about 128 MPH - so for a standard F90 M5 - that is about 1-2 tenths and 1-2 MPH. Competition is about the same MPH and could match it with the Michelins.

It seems to be a solid car - nothing exciting - but solid. There is talk of an R version - which may be interesting.
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I owned one. Not that special, great value for 115k-120k. I'd rather pony up another 5-10k and get an 17' R8 V10 ANY DAY.

It drives nice, and is comfortable. It's F10 M5 (maybe with stage 1 tune) levels of acceleration (in my opinion maybe 1-2mph faster in 1/4 mile trap). Launching is very strong. Transmission is very good. Car lacks some REALLY basic touches that car in that segment SHOULD have (primarily fit n' finish). Looks great in front, no front axle lift so get ready to destroy the front end if you live in an area with road work or a lot of dips. Back looks ehh. The speed is good, but it sounds like a non-nasal GTR mixed with G35.


Also I have a R8 V10 Plus - I've driven an F90 M5. The R8 will win the race (exactly the same car as LP610).
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Your butt dyno is pretty good lol. I have seen 10.8 at about 128 MPH - so for a standard F90 M5 - that is about 1-2 tenths and 1-2 MPH. Competition is about the same MPH and could match it with the Michelins.

It seems to be a solid car - nothing exciting - but solid. There is talk of an R version - which may be interesting.
The fact that an M5 F90 with a Race Chip or what not piggy, can match the performance of a full blown Sports Car like the NSX whose only purpose is speed and handling, is downright impressive and again goes back to how if an overachiever the M5 F90 really is! Jack of all trades and the master of some?
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I am very interested in Vic's assessment of the NSX...I have been watching this car. There is talk of an R. Some of my friends say its awesome. Reviews have been mixed. I trust those who have driven it - versus opinion.
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So I have had the NSX since Oct of 2018... I purposely have not posted much about it so I can clear out any favorable placebo events that so many have when he or she first get a car. It clearly was a "Im bored" acquisition but I did do some research and 3 extended test drives.

Is the NSX a great 180k msrp car? Not at all but its got some worthiness based on the market and what it does for me in the 130-140k new cost range. Some thoughts:

* Its a good launching car, it grips well off the dig even with the shit Contis. Its not going to out trap a stock or tuned M5 but this car is not your straightline racer per se. Will the car still rip to 120 plus- sure but the 3 electric motors shut down at that point and you are all motor (500hp motor and 80 or so hp electric). Whats best about this car is the response with the motors. From a dig its like a baby tesla with immediate tq and then going into and out of turns under 100; the car just responds. A measurement probably not much used but I enjoy is the 30 to 100 number and I feel this car shines here. The throttle response is incredibly fast for a turbo car and the electric engines dial in the response. Its definitely a niche segment but it works. From a performance perspective it does a lot of things good and a few things great.

* It has the mag ride which I love and its really comfortable. The seats lack multi adjustments but they are still very good and I have no issues on longer drives. The visibility in the cabin is excellent; its worlds ahead of the Huracan and better than my R8/GTS/GTS PCar. It really allows for a great line of sight. The steering isnt 991 good but it nots heavy in understeer and does a pretty good job mating up with the chassis and suspension. It drives solid and can definitely be used as a daily although I would not pick the car for such usage.

* The exhaust is weak. I knew this going in and have replaced the highly restrictive 600 cell count dp's with 100 cells. The gain in sound is amazing and the car sounds like it should from the factory based on the price and looks. Its an easy fix.

* The interior looks nice but the infotainment is archaic. Its like they adopted the 2014 Acura NAV and processor speeds. Thankfully I didnt buy the car for this. As I mentioned the seats, while lacking some finer tuning adjustments, are very very comfortable.

* I like the looks, its not like much out there. Its different and wide. Next to my 991.2 GTS its wider and more aggressive front to rear. I dont have problems with the lower front cowl where I live but I can see where some would rub/scrape the front fascia. A lifter would indeed help like I had my Huracan and 991.1 GT3. It has some wide swinging side mirrors that cover all the blind spots but do not electronically fold and I have to be careful when pulling it in the garage.

I have the V10 R8 and its tuned, arguably faster than the Plus, but I get the mag ride and the V10 song; its an amazing car and the every day Huracan IMHO. I also have the other cars to complete what I like in personal preferences. The NSX compliments what I have right now and getting 30k plus off msrp makes it an acquirable taste. Once I did the exhaust it was a different beast. Its at my shop now getting a piggy back tune on the motor part and we shall see where it goes and how much faster.

Its still a formidable car from a roll and really is aggressive in those mid range up and down speeds (30 to 120). Will it be a quarter mile champ, hell no. Will it crush in the half mile- no f'in way but Im enjoying the very attractive blend of looks, modified sound, and true driveability.

As you know Brooks posts legit races and this one caught my eye pre buy:



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