M5 vs m550i xdrive

ResIpsaLoquitur · 05-01-2023, 11:39 PM

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DGM M5C · 05-02-2023, 09:08 AM

I didn't have a 2021+ M550, but came from the 2018 version. I actually debadged the back of it because I felt like a bit of an imposter. Now that I'm finally in the M5, I'll never go back. Absolutely worth it in my mind.

micvite · 05-02-2023, 09:29 AM

If you get the m550 it'll be more comfortable for a daily arguably. And you get cooler features like active sway bars and rear wheel steering (pretty sure that was an option)

David911 · 05-02-2023, 10:59 AM

The 550i xdrive is a 5 series that goes fast. Given that lesser models go fast enough for all practical purposes, I think it is silly to get one that just goes faster.

The M5 is a halo car, top of the heap, completely excessive, different suspension, wheels, engine. While it is also "silly", as little of this performance is accessible on the street, it still has purpose as the icon.

I really like my 2021 M5C, but not nearly as much as any of my past sports cars (MR2, Miata, 1988 911, GT3). We only need one car, and only have garage space for one, so I am "stuck" with the compromise M5.

If I needed two cars, I would have a much more basic 5 series like a 530, and a 911 of some sort. Sounds like you already have this - I would not trade Rivian plus 911 for M5, unless I really, really wanted to simplify things.

M3PGH · 05-02-2023, 11:00 AM

M5 is special
M550 is a fast sedan but not special
it seems you and your wife like special cars , Cayenne GTS , 991 GTS , E63
so why even bother with M550
you bought Porsche GTS variants because they are more special than S variants . Do I need to keep going !!!!
what year is the Cayenne GTS . I have car ADD myself and just sold my 2023 Cayenne GTS for my second F90 M5. Though I admit that V8 engine sound was perfection and reminded me of my E63

ResIpsaLoquitur · 05-02-2023, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by David911

The 550i xdrive is a 5 series that goes fast. Given that lesser models go fast enough for all practical purposes, I think it is silly to get one that just goes faster.

The M5 is a halo car, top of the heap, completely excessive, different suspension, wheels, engine. While it is also "silly", as little of this performance is accessible on the street, it still has purpose as the icon.

I really like my 2021 M5C, but not nearly as much as any of my past sports cars (MR2, Miata, 1988 911, GT3). We only need one car, and only have garage space for one, so I am "stuck" with the compromise M5.

If I needed two cars, I would have a much more basic 5 series like a 530, and a 911 of some sort. Sounds like you already have this - I would not trade Rivian plus 911 for M5, unless I really, really wanted to simplify things.

“I really like my 2021 M5C, but not nearly as much as any of my past sports cars (MR2, Miata, 1988 911, GT3).”

Really interesting take. I know people who have had all the cars you mention that really like them, but I can’t fathom how any of them (perhaps other than the GT3) would like those cars more. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that the M5 is sports sedan as opposed to a sports car (though it certainly masquerades as one in many scenarios and circumstances). Otherwise I can’t even see the comparison. There’s nothing wrong with any of those cars, of course, but the M5 is a significantly nicer and more luxurious car, while still being a driver’s car in my opinion.

David911 · 05-02-2023, 02:02 PM

"Really interesting take. I know people who have had all the cars you mention that really like them, but I can’t fathom how any of them (perhaps other than the GT3) would like those cars more. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that the M5 is sports sedan as opposed to a sports car (though it certainly masquerades as one in many scenarios and circumstances). Otherwise I can’t even see the comparison. There’s nothing wrong with any of those cars, of course, but the M5 is a significantly nicer and more luxurious car, while still being a driver’s car in my opinion."

The M5 is way more luxurious, and way faster in a straight line, than all my other sports cars (even the GT3, I think). But the luxury, heft, and isolation makes it way less fun to me. There is also no romance in it at all, and it does not bring as many smiles...

Cars these days have gotten too fast and heavy to be really fun on the street. The Miata I had was first generation - it was fun, fun, fun! Small, under wheeled/tired, you could push it without getting crazy. My wife would not get in it, however, so it was short lived.

I mean it is sort of weird, but somehow needing to keep the car floored the whole length of the on ramp to zoom on the highway was more fun to me than needing to brake before getting on the highway because I am already doing 90 MPH.

pbonsalb · 05-02-2023, 02:29 PM

The M5 is a mid size luxury sports sedan, not a sports car. Like most modern cars, it is an appliance, without much character. It is a really really good appliance, though. An M5 and a 911 would be a great combination of cars to have.

ResIpsaLoquitur · 05-02-2023, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by David911

"Really interesting take. I know people who have had all the cars you mention that really like them, but I can’t fathom how any of them (perhaps other than the GT3) would like those cars more. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that the M5 is sports sedan as opposed to a sports car (though it certainly masquerades as one in many scenarios and circumstances). Otherwise I can’t even see the comparison. There’s nothing wrong with any of those cars, of course, but the M5 is a significantly nicer and more luxurious car, while still being a driver’s car in my opinion."

The M5 is way more luxurious, and way faster in a straight line, than all my other sports cars (even the GT3, I think). But the luxury, heft, and isolation makes it way less fun to me. There is also no romance in it at all, and it does not bring as many smiles...

Cars these days have gotten too fast and heavy to be really fun on the street. The Miata I had was first generation - it was fun, fun, fun! Small, under wheeled/tired, you could push it without getting crazy. My wife would not get in it, however, so it was short lived.

I mean it is sort of weird, but somehow needing to keep the car floored the whole length of the on ramp to zoom on the highway was more fun to me than needing to brake before getting on the highway because I am already doing 90 MPH.

I could totally see it from that perspective. Everybody likes and wants something different, so it seems for your use case, those cars made more sense for you, and, it sounds like they were more visceral to you.

To this point, the M5 gives me all the smiles that I know none of those other cars would. Again, everybody has their own preferences. So long as you’re going with whatever makes you happy, then that’s all that matters.

David911 · 05-02-2023, 04:47 PM

What would really make me happy is an extra garage space. Alas, that is not to be

Revan · 05-02-2023, 10:20 PM

To each their own. Having done private at PC in M5 and just recently done private at another track in a miata and 350Z, I couldn't wait to get back in the M5. Completely different universe and I for one, am struggling to think of anything the M5 doesn't do 10x or more better.

carcrazydoc · 05-04-2023, 12:43 PM

Drove a 23 M5 Comp today. Quite nice. Now the decision new versus pre-owned or possibly even wait 2 years hoping to pick up a mint F90 when the 25 model arrives?

As for prior question from @m3pgh the cayenne gts is a 2016 which has served us well. Quicker but does not sound as good as the 4.8 v8 which proceeded it but ultimately much prefer the current gen 4.0 TT available in the cayenne gts.

Need some time to think about next steps. thanks to all for the input.

jnotrom711 · 05-04-2023, 04:35 PM

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Drove a 23 M5 Comp today. Quite nice. Now the decision new versus pre-owned or possibly even wait 2 years hoping to pick up a mint F90 when the 25 model arrives?

As for prior question from @m3pgh the cayenne gts is a 2016 which has served us well. Quicker but does not sound as good as the 4.8 v8 which proceeded it but ultimately much prefer the current gen 4.0 TT available in the cayenne gts.

Need some time to think about next steps. thanks to all for the input.

Personally, if it's a financially weighted decision I would be looking at a 2021, or 2022, allow that owner to take the biggest portion of the depreciation. Youll still have a lot of warranty, and free maintenance.

If youre considering a 2025 model, if you buy a 2021, or 2022 right you would be in a good/decent spot when a 2025 MY arrive.

If it's not finically weighted, go with the 2023.

GoBills0418 · 05-07-2023, 05:59 AM

Hi buddy,

I just put a deposit down on a 23 M5 and compared the m550i to it before pulling the trigger (also compared the RS7). M550i is def a nice car and is softer than the m5. I have an old 911 as my fun weekend car as well. The m5 for me will be my dad car. Something I drive more often and wanted to have that ability to play with, which is something the m550i won't be as good as the m5.

I could go on about the history of the m5 badge, etc. But you already know all that.

Buddy of mine has a Rivian. It's fine, but EV trucks aren't my thing and I don't think it compares to your stable now). Get a F150 raptor (doesn't have to be R) for some real fun with a truck.

narekk1990 · 05-08-2023, 12:20 PM

Definetly feel you on that one, I was having the same debate. I got my m5 comp two days ago and absolutely no regrets, except i need it to be louder which is why i am upgrade the exhaust with Eisenmann

shawnhayes · 05-08-2023, 01:08 PM

If you have the money, M5, 100%.

m550 is a great car for the money. But, it's not an M5. Can't be helped.

Shawn

carcrazydoc · 06-19-2023, 07:30 AM

Appreciate the discussion and input from all. Ultimately decided to hold on the purchase for now and enjoy the vehicles we currently own. Feels a little strange to not have a BMW in our family but suspect it will only be a matter of time

Thanks again and hope you enjoy the summer in great health. Just thinking, a M3 Touring or better yet M5 Touring in the U.S. would be compelling and might be sufficient to make headway?

23109VC · 06-20-2023, 12:43 AM

I have an M550 and a Cayenne GTS (2021 model). Am also thinking of an M5 to replace M550. M550 is fast but handling is very numb and it’s more a comfy DD … I believe C&D referred to it as a “rocket couch”. Not a bad analogy!

My M550 has the resonator delete - sounds great. The Cayenne GTS sounds 10x better

I want a 911 but don’t want the price tag… toyed with the idea an M3 Comp xDrive as well.

But I like the utility / size of my 5er.. so an M5 might be in my future…

kolosy · 08-15-2023, 01:18 PM

resurrecting this because i just took the m5c in for its breakin service and was given an m550i as the loaner. awesome car. pulls hard, still has some exhaust drama, super comfortable i the city. and i'm super glad i got the m5

just feels so much more special. better steering feel and exhaust note, better interior materials (though that could be a spec difference i guess).

ResIpsaLoquitur · 08-15-2023, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kolosy

resurrecting this because i just took the m5c in for its breakin service and was given an m550i as the loaner. awesome car. pulls hard, still has some exhaust drama, super comfortable i the city. and i'm super glad i got the m5

just feels so much more special. better steering feel and exhaust note, better interior materials (though that could be a spec difference i guess).

That’s an awesome loaner. My SA will try to get me lined up with the “nicest” or “comparable” loaner cars, but I’ve never gotten anything as (somewhat?) comparable as the M550.

jm490 · 08-15-2023, 07:43 PM

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That’s an awesome loaner. My SA will try to get me lined up with the “nicest” or “comparable” loaner cars, but I’ve never gotten anything as (somewhat?) comparable as the M550.

Hahah I was gonna say the same. My SA is very very friendly with me as is the director of the whole service department and no matter what they do the nicest loaner I ever get into is a 530 Smdh 😂 he did promise that within the next 2 months they will have a couple XM’s and 7’ers and promised next service he’d hook it up with one. I’ll have to see it to believe it. Also tells me the XM’s aren’t selling for shit

kolosy · 08-15-2023, 08:27 PM

Yeah it was definitely a pleasant surprise, esp since not that long ago they had no loaners to give, full stop.

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DGM M5C Private First Class 176 Rep 152 Posts Drives: '22 Dark Graphite M5C Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Here iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 M5 Comp [0.00]	I didn't have a 2021+ M550, but came from the 2018 version. I actually debadged the back of it because I felt like a bit of an imposter. Now that I'm finally in the M5, I'll never go back. Absolutely worth it in my mind.
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micvite Colonel 1540 Rep 2,009 Posts Drives: 2009 mazda RX8 Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Alaska iTrader: (0)	If you get the m550 it'll be more comfortable for a daily arguably. And you get cooler features like active sway bars and rear wheel steering (pretty sure that was an option)
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David911 Enlisted Member 33 Rep 37 Posts Drives: 911 BMW 528 Saab Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern CA iTrader: (0)	The 550i xdrive is a 5 series that goes fast. Given that lesser models go fast enough for all practical purposes, I think it is silly to get one that just goes faster. The M5 is a halo car, top of the heap, completely excessive, different suspension, wheels, engine. While it is also "silly", as little of this performance is accessible on the street, it still has purpose as the icon. I really like my 2021 M5C, but not nearly as much as any of my past sports cars (MR2, Miata, 1988 911, GT3). We only need one car, and only have garage space for one, so I am "stuck" with the compromise M5. If I needed two cars, I would have a much more basic 5 series like a 530, and a 911 of some sort. Sounds like you already have this - I would not trade Rivian plus 911 for M5, unless I really, really wanted to simplify things.
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M3PGH Major 807 Rep 1,401 Posts Drives: Too Many Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh,PA iTrader: (1)	M5 is special M550 is a fast sedan but not special it seems you and your wife like special cars , Cayenne GTS , 991 GTS , E63 so why even bother with M550 you bought Porsche GTS variants because they are more special than S variants . Do I need to keep going !!!! what year is the Cayenne GTS . I have car ADD myself and just sold my 2023 Cayenne GTS for my second F90 M5. Though I admit that V8 engine sound was perfection and reminded me of my E63
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David911 Enlisted Member 33 Rep 37 Posts Drives: 911 BMW 528 Saab Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern CA iTrader: (0)	"Really interesting take. I know people who have had all the cars you mention that really like them, but I can’t fathom how any of them (perhaps other than the GT3) would like those cars more. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that the M5 is sports sedan as opposed to a sports car (though it certainly masquerades as one in many scenarios and circumstances). Otherwise I can’t even see the comparison. There’s nothing wrong with any of those cars, of course, but the M5 is a significantly nicer and more luxurious car, while still being a driver’s car in my opinion." The M5 is way more luxurious, and way faster in a straight line, than all my other sports cars (even the GT3, I think). But the luxury, heft, and isolation makes it way less fun to me. There is also no romance in it at all, and it does not bring as many smiles... Cars these days have gotten too fast and heavy to be really fun on the street. The Miata I had was first generation - it was fun, fun, fun! Small, under wheeled/tired, you could push it without getting crazy. My wife would not get in it, however, so it was short lived. I mean it is sort of weird, but somehow needing to keep the car floored the whole length of the on ramp to zoom on the highway was more fun to me than needing to brake before getting on the highway because I am already doing 90 MPH.
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pbonsalb Lieutenant General 5254 Rep 10,628 Posts Drives: 18 F90 M5, 99 E36 M3 Turbo Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England iTrader: (4)	The M5 is a mid size luxury sports sedan, not a sports car. Like most modern cars, it is an appliance, without much character. It is a really really good appliance, though. An M5 and a 911 would be a great combination of cars to have.
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David911 Enlisted Member 33 Rep 37 Posts Drives: 911 BMW 528 Saab Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern CA iTrader: (0)	What would really make me happy is an extra garage space. Alas, that is not to be
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Revan Private First Class 114 Rep 120 Posts Drives: 2023 M5C Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	To each their own. Having done private at PC in M5 and just recently done private at another track in a miata and 350Z, I couldn't wait to get back in the M5. Completely different universe and I for one, am struggling to think of anything the M5 doesn't do 10x or more better.
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carcrazydoc Private 42 Rep 65 Posts Drives: 2022 R1S, 911 GTS, E63s Wagon Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Indianapolis, IN iTrader: (1)	Drove a 23 M5 Comp today. Quite nice. Now the decision new versus pre-owned or possibly even wait 2 years hoping to pick up a mint F90 when the 25 model arrives? As for prior question from @m3pgh the cayenne gts is a 2016 which has served us well. Quicker but does not sound as good as the 4.8 v8 which proceeded it but ultimately much prefer the current gen 4.0 TT available in the cayenne gts. Need some time to think about next steps. thanks to all for the input.
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05-07-2023, 05:59 AM	#36
GoBills0418 New Member 15 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 996 Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Hi buddy, I just put a deposit down on a 23 M5 and compared the m550i to it before pulling the trigger (also compared the RS7). M550i is def a nice car and is softer than the m5. I have an old 911 as my fun weekend car as well. The m5 for me will be my dad car. Something I drive more often and wanted to have that ability to play with, which is something the m550i won't be as good as the m5. I could go on about the history of the m5 badge, etc. But you already know all that. Buddy of mine has a Rivian. It's fine, but EV trucks aren't my thing and I don't think it compares to your stable now). Get a F150 raptor (doesn't have to be R) for some real fun with a truck.
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narekk1990 New Member 15 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2023 BMW M5 Competition Join Date: May 2023 Location: Glendale, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00] 2023 Bmw M5 Competi ... [10.00]	Definetly feel you on that one, I was having the same debate. I got my m5 comp two days ago and absolutely no regrets, except i need it to be louder which is why i am upgrade the exhaust with Eisenmann
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05-08-2023, 01:08 PM	#38
shawnhayes Major 1837 Rep 1,328 Posts Drives: 22M5 CS,23X5E,24M3 CS,24 i4 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	If you have the money, M5, 100%. m550 is a great car for the money. But, it's not an M5. Can't be helped. Shawn
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06-19-2023, 07:30 AM	#39
carcrazydoc Private 42 Rep 65 Posts Drives: 2022 R1S, 911 GTS, E63s Wagon Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Indianapolis, IN iTrader: (1)	Appreciate the discussion and input from all. Ultimately decided to hold on the purchase for now and enjoy the vehicles we currently own. Feels a little strange to not have a BMW in our family but suspect it will only be a matter of time Thanks again and hope you enjoy the summer in great health. Just thinking, a M3 Touring or better yet M5 Touring in the U.S. would be compelling and might be sufficient to make headway?
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06-20-2023, 12:43 AM	#40
23109VC Captain 452 Rep 675 Posts Drives: 2016 X5 Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M550i [7.90] 2009 Acura TL SH-AWD [0.00] 2021 Porsche Cayenn ... [10.00]	I have an M550 and a Cayenne GTS (2021 model). Am also thinking of an M5 to replace M550. M550 is fast but handling is very numb and it’s more a comfy DD … I believe C&D referred to it as a “rocket couch”. Not a bad analogy! My M550 has the resonator delete - sounds great. The Cayenne GTS sounds 10x better I want a 911 but don’t want the price tag… toyed with the idea an M3 Comp xDrive as well. But I like the utility / size of my 5er.. so an M5 might be in my future… __________________ Sean 2016 X5 sDrive 35i 2018 M550i
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08-15-2023, 01:18 PM	#41
kolosy Colonel 1509 Rep 2,037 Posts Drives: over potholes Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	resurrecting this because i just took the m5c in for its breakin service and was given an m550i as the loaner. awesome car. pulls hard, still has some exhaust drama, super comfortable i the city. and i'm super glad i got the m5 just feels so much more special. better steering feel and exhaust note, better interior materials (though that could be a spec difference i guess). __________________ Current '21 DG X5MC, '22 X5M50i, '11 E90 M3 Recent Past '12 E92 M3 ZCP, '08 E93 M3, '18 F80 ZCP, '04 E46 M3 I think I have an M3 problem.
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08-15-2023, 08:27 PM	#44
kolosy Colonel 1509 Rep 2,037 Posts Drives: over potholes Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	Yeah it was definitely a pleasant surprise, esp since not that long ago they had no loaners to give, full stop.
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