[Madvillain]

aw so cute when they throw in their shitty cadi in there :') no surprises her though m5 wins every time a new m5 comes out same goes for m3/4.

[MTHX]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

No, the F90 M5 is limited to 163mph so it is not faster than any stock GTR which achieves 190+

No, the F90 M5 is not quicker than any stock GTR 0-60mph, a stock GTR can go as low as 2.7. They can also go as low as 2.6 on 335s

2012 Nissan GT-R Premium 530 448 2.9 11.2 122.7 101 1.05 23.3 sec @ 0.89 g
2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition 545 463 2.8 11.1 124.8 105 1.03 23.0 sec @ 0.91 g
2014 Nissan GT-R Track Edition 545 463 2.7 11 125.1 94 1.04 23.0 sec @ 0.93 g
2015 Nissan GT-R NISMO 600 481 2.9 11 126.6 97 1.06 22.9 sec @ 0.91 g
2016 Nissan GT-R 45th Anniversary 545 463 2.9 11.2 122.0 103 1.0 23.5 sec @ 0.90 g

M5 is limited to 190 mph
M5 is faster on 1/4 miles (time and mph)
And very close to 0-60 ...

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by MTHX

M5 is limited to 190 mph
M5 is faster on 1/4 miles (time and mph)
And very close to 0-60 ...

No, did you read the article on the 1st page? The M5 is not limited to 190mph:

And I quote:

‘TOP SPEED 163 mph (gov ltd)’

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

No, the F90 M5 is limited to 163mph so it is not faster than any stock GTR which achieves 190+

No, the F90 M5 is not quicker than any stock GTR 0-60mph, a stock GTR can go as low as 2.7. They can also go as low as 2.6 on 335s

2012 Nissan GT-R Premium 530 448 2.9 11.2 122.7 101 1.05 23.3 sec @ 0.89 g
2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition 545 463 2.8 11.1 124.8 105 1.03 23.0 sec @ 0.91 g
2014 Nissan GT-R Track Edition 545 463 2.7 11 125.1 94 1.04 23.0 sec @ 0.93 g
2015 Nissan GT-R NISMO 600 481 2.9 11 126.6 97 1.06 22.9 sec @ 0.91 g
2016 Nissan GT-R 45th Anniversary 545 463 2.9 11.2 122.0 103 1.0 23.5 sec @ 0.90 g

Where is the 10 second 1/4 mile for the stock GTR ?

[MTHX]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

No, did you read the article on the 1st page? The M5 is not limited to 190mph:

And I quote:

‘TOP SPEED 163 mph (gov ltd)’

did you read the 2500 $ option for 190 mph / m drive option with a course ...

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by onfireX5

Where is the 10 second 1/4 mile for the stock GTR ?

Well the poster mentioned faster and quicker, so I provided proof that STOCK THE GTR is quicker 0-60 and FASTER 190+mph. Now you want a 10s 1/4 mile as well? I guess I can do that

Nissan GT-R 2012 10.8 sec[46] Front-engine, usually with 2+2 seats
Acura NSX 2016 10.8 sec[51] Hybrid-electric
Ferrari F12tdf 2016 10.8 sec[53] Limited to 799 produced, front-engine, naturally aspirated
Tesla Model S P90D w/Ludicrous Upgrade 2016 10.8 sec @ 121.99 mph (196.3 km/h)[89] All-electric, with 5(+2) seats
Dodge Viper Phase II ZB (Gen-4) 2008 10.9 sec @ 129.8 mph (208.9 km/h)[90] Front-engine
Porsche 911 Turbo S (997) 2011 10.9 sec @ 127.4 mph (205.0 km/h)[43] Rear-engine, with 2+2 seats
Pagani Huayra 2012 10.9 sec[91] Limited to 100 produced
McLaren 570S 2016 10.9 sec @ 137 mph (220 km/h)[92] (see this column's notes)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06[xx] 2016 10.9 sec @ 132.7 mph (213.6 km/h)[82][xxi] Front-engine
BMW M5[xxii] 2018 10.9 sec @ 129 mph (207.6 km/h)[93] Front-engine, with 5 seats
Porsche Carrera GT 2003 10.97 sec[94]

[onfireX5]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Well the poster mentioned faster and quicker, so I provided proof that STOCK THE GTR is quicker 0-60 and FASTER 190+mph. Now you want a 10s 1/4 mile as well? I guess I can do that

Nissan GT-R 2012 10.8 sec[46] Front-engine, usually with 2+2 seats
Acura NSX 2016 10.8 sec[51] Hybrid-electric
Ferrari F12tdf 2016 10.8 sec[53] Limited to 799 produced, front-engine, naturally aspirated
Tesla Model S P90D w/Ludicrous Upgrade 2016 10.8 sec @ 121.99 mph (196.3 km/h)[89] All-electric, with 5(+2) seats
Dodge Viper Phase II ZB (Gen-4) 2008 10.9 sec @ 129.8 mph (208.9 km/h)[90] Front-engine
Porsche 911 Turbo S (997) 2011 10.9 sec @ 127.4 mph (205.0 km/h)[43] Rear-engine, with 2+2 seats
Pagani Huayra 2012 10.9 sec[91] Limited to 100 produced
McLaren 570S 2016 10.9 sec @ 137 mph (220 km/h)[92] (see this column's notes)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06[xx] 2016 10.9 sec @ 132.7 mph (213.6 km/h)[82][xxi] Front-engine
BMW M5[xxii] 2018 10.9 sec @ 129 mph (207.6 km/h)[93] Front-engine, with 5 seats
Porsche Carrera GT 2003 10.97 sec[94]

From the Car and Driver test standards or hodgepodge? I do not see a 10.x for a GTR on the C&D test history.

[swanson]

Originally Posted by Madvillain

aw so cute when they throw in their shitty cadi in there :') no surprises her though m5 wins every time a new m5 comes out same goes for m3/4.

Dont be mad the Cadi smoked your F10. It still beat them all in chassis and fun to drive. That says a lot.

[hdubf80]

The new ///M5 is seriously impressive. I just wish they would do something to make it sound more like the way it's powered.

[Maverik259]

Lol y'all crack me up. The M5 coulda lost by a mile and y'all woulda found some way to say it's a scam. Which is fine. They don't call it home field advantage for nothing.

However I just find the M5 exterior to be so bland and not much different than its many many predecessors. It's a shame really. Do love the interiors. Heck it's why I bought a bimmer this go around.

[AudiA4]

Originally Posted by Madvillain

aw so cute when they throw in their shitty cadi in there :') no surprises her though m5 wins every time a new m5 comes out same goes for m3/4.

They're all phenomenal cars...good grief...the CTS has the best chassis (some say by far) and won the MOST FUN TO DRIVE category, all for MUCH less than the other cars.

[onfireX5]

https://www.caranddriver.com/nissan/gt-r

Actual data by C&D.

[werdn]

Hahaha, us BMW fanboys are finally satisfied!

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

No, the F90 M5 is limited to 163mph so it is not faster than any stock GTR which achieves 190+

No, the F90 M5 is not quicker than any stock GTR 0-60mph, a stock GTR can go as low as 2.7. They can also go as low as 2.6 on 335s

Yes, M5 is limited to 190 as well and even without the pack can be software modified.

Yes, M5 is equal if not faster

Yes, M5 has 5 proper seats and a trunk

Yes, M5 is big sedan with a proper family behaviour and a switchable RWD / AWD transmission

Yes, it has high quality interior with lots of goodies and wonderful things (that add weight) leather and proper materials, not cheap plastic like the Tic Tac plastic used in that shitty GTR. Yet is a agile contender.

Yes, M5 is comfortable and able to preserve your kidneys.

LOL, there is no comparison between the both since they are different. Yet, the big fancy loaded sedan still slaps in the face a lot of sport oriented vehicles....

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by Tracus

Yes, M5 is limited to 190 as well and even without the pack can be software modified.

Yes, M5 is equal if not faster

Yes, M5 has 5 proper seats and a trunk

Yes, M5 is big sedan with a proper family behaviour and a switchable RWD / AWD transmission

Yes, it has high quality interior with lots of goodies and wonderful things (that add weight) leather and proper materials, not cheap plastic like the Tic Tac plastic used in that shitty GTR. Yet is a agile contender.

Yes, M5 is comfortable and able to preserve your kidneys.

LOL, there is no comparison between the both since they are different. Yet, the big fancy loaded sedan still slaps in the face a lot of sport oriented vehicles....

Awww did I hurt your feelings, we all know bmws always take a beating from the GTR, especially the M-Cars.

Finally, after losing so many comparison tests to the e63/rs7 for 7 years and the poor sales that ensued STUBBORN bmw decided to add awd to the M5. Well it’s about time. And just to set the record straight as you seem to be misinformed, the dash , seats and inlays are all leather on the GTR and they have gone 6s in the 1/4 mile and high 7s driven to the track and home so no comparison performance wise....

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by hdubf80

The new ///M5 is seriously impressive. I just wish they would do something to make it sound more like the way it powered.

they should focus on your car first. let's be realistic here

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by Maverik259

Lol y'all crack me up. The M5 coulda lost by a mile and y'all woulda found some way to say it's a scam. Which is fine. They don't call it home field advantage for nothing.

However I just find the M5 exterior to be so bland and not much different than its many many predecessors. It's a shame really. Do love the interiors. Heck it's why I bought a bimmer this go around.

hahah nailed it. i can't believe so many people arguing over a WIN.

imagine if it lost lmao

[hdubf80]

Originally Posted by rjd598

they should focus on your car first. let's be realistic here

I agree with that but can't expect too much from an inline 6. V8 is a different story.

[ASAP]

i am genuinely curious how many people in the US have actually bought that cadillac?

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Awww did I hurt your feelings, we all know bmws always take a beating from the GTR, especially the M-Cars.

Finally, after losing so many comparison tests to the e63/rs7 for 7 years and the poor sales that ensued STUBBORN bmw decided to add awd to the M5. Well it’s about time. And just to set the record straight as you seem to be misinformed, the dash , seats and inlays are all leather on the GTR and they have gone 6s in the 1/4 mile and high 7s driven to the track and home so no comparison performance wise....

LOL honey, you did not hurt my feelings.
Have a look at the plastic interior on the GTR and after that check a Ford Focus and please get back and report in here; you will find that you can get a better plastic for less money...
In my circle there is a GTR and is the sheep we all make fun of.
In the end, numbers are not everything, have a look under the skin of a vehicle or talk to a real body-shop guy, he will probably tell you the truth about frame strength and sheet metal used in German cars and their anticorrosive treatment and fabrication process and you beloved Tic Tac GTR. I owned and still own a Japanese, German and English car and the differences between the Europeans and Japanese are obvious for the trained eye.
Bottom line, I am sleeper kind of guy and that's why I love BMW: they build fast sporty sedans and blend the perfect balance between luxury and sporty. Once you lean too much on one side you start to loose the other. It is an art to know how to blend them perfectly.
Personally I want luxury and a fast comfortable vehicle, not a kidney breaker with a shitty interior.
If you love it, go for it, I promise I will not even look at it.

[vtknight]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

No, the F90 M5 is limited to 163mph so it is not faster than any stock GTR which achieves 190+

No, the F90 M5 is not quicker than any stock GTR 0-60mph, a stock GTR can go as low as 2.7. They can also go as low as 2.6 on 335s

2012 Nissan GT-R Premium 530 448 2.9 11.2 122.7 101 1.05 23.3 sec @ 0.89 g
2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition 545 463 2.8 11.1 124.8 105 1.03 23.0 sec @ 0.91 g
2014 Nissan GT-R Track Edition 545 463 2.7 11 125.1 94 1.04 23.0 sec @ 0.93 g
2015 Nissan GT-R NISMO 600 481 2.9 11 126.6 97 1.06 22.9 sec @ 0.91 g
2016 Nissan GT-R 45th Anniversary 545 463 2.9 11.2 122.0 103 1.0 23.5 sec @ 0.90 g

Actually yes. IN terms of fast - I am talking trap speed. If I wanted top speed - I would have stated. That. 0-60 is within 1 tenth - but look at those 1/4 ET's. Look at the trap speeds. Not one is in the 10's and not one is 127+ MPH. Talking about anything different from factory is a mod. CBA to DBA GTR - the F90 M5 is quicker and faster in the 1/4 mile - stock for stock.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by hdubf80

I agree with that but can't expect too much from an inline 6. V8 is a different story.

good point there. honestly the long and beloved e46 sounds like ass. it always sounded like ass and it sounded like even more ass with aftermarket parts.

but it's probably the most idolized m3 generation. people get hung up on the wrong weak points. the f8x is a precision tool while being able to do all the daily driving needs one would require. sounds like a fucking good deal to me