[JustChris]

Life is short and I don't want to be associated with Tesla anymore.

gangzoom has taken up the bottle?

[MashinBenzin]

Odd you say that, Tesla’s trajectory appears to be along the lines that it always has been.

I can see why you wouldn’t want another, when all their cars are pretty much the same there’s nothing compelling to say buy another. We all like something new when we buy.

I like the Macan too, just a bit small as a family car with two kids. The same went for the Cayenne when I tested one, but would revisit now that pushchairs are no longer part of the equation.

[gangzoom]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Life is short and I don't want to be associated with Tesla anymore.

gangzoom has taken up the bottle?

Musk now appears to have understood leadership roles comes with some responsibility and now looks like his trying to do the right thing, and back track on the madness last week.

Leaders are paper weights if they don't have consent of the organisation/people (or have an army supporting them). Doing the right thing for Tesla/EV community by continuing to expand the SC network is what he should be supporting at the CEO of Tesla. It looks like he now recognises just how bad a decision he made about a week ago.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/...ion-1033364870

[Wolverine]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

I like the Macan too, just a bit small as a family car with two kids. The same went for the Cayenne when I tested one, but would revisit now that pushchairs are no longer part of the equation.

I’m currently equipped with 3 child seats in the back of a Macan. It’s surprisingly good for the twin 2 year olds and our 5 year old.

It was the one criteria I had to enable purchase, fitting 3 seats across the rear bench

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

I’m currently equipped with 3 child seats in the back of a Macan. It’s surprisingly good for the twin 2 year olds and our 5 year old.

It was the one criteria I had to enable purchase, fitting 3 seats across the rear bench

That’s impressive, I don’t think even the Disco would have done three across, but I guess specific seats may vary.

It was more the boot space for me, and in fairness both the immediate family (us four) and the wider family tend to travel heavy

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by gangzoom

Musk now appears to have understood leadership roles comes with some responsibility and now looks like his trying to do the right thing, and back track on the madness last week.

Leaders are paper weights if they don't have consent of the organisation/people (or have an army supporting them). Doing the right thing for Tesla/EV community by continuing to expand the SC network is what he should be supporting at the CEO of Tesla. It looks like he now recognises just how bad a decision he made about a week ago.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/...ion-1033364870

I doubt that Musk’s modus operandi had changed in a week. But a corporation’s CEO has very rarely factored in a buying decision for me. It’s been a very Tesla fan boi thing to talk about Musk for the last decade as some kind of demo-god.

[Bryans69]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

I’m currently equipped with 3 child seats in the back of a Macan. It’s surprisingly good for the twin 2 year olds and our 5 year old.

It was the one criteria I had to enable purchase, fitting 3 seats across the rear bench

I'm guessing they aren't standard iso fix seats, as I've never come across a car that could fit 3 of them on a rear back seat. We had two in the 540, and the space between was tiny

[Wolverine]

Originally Posted by Bryans69

I'm guessing they aren't standard iso fix seats, as I've never come across a car that could fit 3 of them on a rear back seat. We had two in the 540, and the space between was tiny

You’d be right. They’re specifically slimmer belt attached seats. Not ideal for long family days out perhaps, but that’s what we use the XC90 for. The Macan is a second car and only occasionally needs to handle a full complement of kids on the school run or similar local pootling.

The seats I chose meet the latest standard and are specifically slimmer than ones I’ve had before.

We’d get away with isofix seats if our eldest sat in the middle seat as it is more useable than when we did it in the 4 GC. However the isofix seats I bought for my car somehow ended up in the XC90…

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

You’d be right. They’re specifically slimmer belt attached seats. Not ideal for long family days out perhaps, but that’s what we use the XC90 for. The Macan is a second car and only occasionally needs to handle a full complement of kids on the school run or similar local pootling.

The seats I chose meet the latest standard and are specifically slimmer than ones I’ve had before.

We’d get away with isofix seats if our eldest sat in the middle seat as it is more useable than when we did it in the 4 GC. However the isofix seats I bought for my car somehow ended up in the XC90…

Ah, my comparison was based on full Isofix seats. The disco you could seat an adult between two isofix seats in the second row. Having isofix in the third row (never used) and front passenger seat (often used) was a bonus in that car.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

I doubt that Musk’s modus operandi had changed in a week. But a corporation’s CEO has very rarely factored in a buying decision for me. It’s been a very Tesla fan boi thing to talk about Musk for the last decade as some kind of demo-god.

And let's remember the supercharger team remain fired, it is interesting though to compare and contrast the pedestal the original tesla fanboys and girls put him on and the reality of their demi God now.

I don't think Musk has changed as a person it's more that people often just choose to see what they want.

[Wolverine]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

Ah, my comparison was based on full Isofix seats. The disco you could seat an adult between two isofix seats in the second row. Having isofix in the third row (never used) and front passenger seat (often used) was a bonus in that car.

First choice was a Land Rover product, but in the end the current issues with insurance derailed that plan. Which is a shame.

Not that I’m sad with the overall outcome, but it did mean planning to have two 7 seaters became keeping one and going for a larger 5 seater as the second car. Means ultimately we have no redundancy if the XC90 topples over but at least we can fit the driver plus all the kids in the Macan, which we couldn’t in the F36.

I’d likely have gone EV if there was a place to charge at work, but with a 200 mile commute (albeit once a week or so), it didn’t seem the right time for me to go full EV, which is a shame given some of the things available at circa £25k…

[Bryans69]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

You’d be right. They’re specifically slimmer belt attached seats. Not ideal for long family days out perhaps, but that’s what we use the XC90 for. The Macan is a second car and only occasionally needs to handle a full complement of kids on the school run or similar local pootling.

The seats I chose meet the latest standard and are specifically slimmer than ones I’ve had before.

We’d get away with isofix seats if our eldest sat in the middle seat as it is more useable than when we did it in the 4 GC. However the isofix seats I bought for my car somehow ended up in the XC90…

OK. There was a company selling 3 car seats fixed to a rail that had ISO connectors on, but looked 'snug'. I think pretty much everyone I know with 3 (or more) kids ended up with something like an S Max or VW Touran